Around the League - 2023 Offseason Edition

[Foppa2118]

@Flames.

"Welcome to St Louis Blues hockey, where Jordan Binnington was more interested in imitating Ron Hextal in everything but actual goaltending."

 

[Alienblood]

I don't at all. I think Dubas corned himself with his stupid 'we can and we will' comment. Basically forced himself to keep four overpaid forwards (his making) and not trading one to balance his team out properly.

Basically he chose pride of making correct decisions. His star players let him down in the postseason for sure, but the defensive groups he put together were obviously not going to win anything.

Shanahan's decisions, he has the final say. Dubas wanted more control and a higher pay and wanted to eliminate Shanny's job and do both himself.

Sounds to me like his hands were tied

 

[Alienblood]

Ohhhhhhhhhh boy Shanny boy showing us he's the impetuous meathead we all thought he was from the beginning.

That's f***ing ridiculous. One goddamn presser and you just decide to change plans? So stupid that a professional sports organization is run so haphazardly.

Dubas said he could do both rolls and wanted them and paid.

Shanny didn't like the truth lol

 

[Balthazar]

Good read

Inside the chaos and uncertainty Brendan Shanahan has brought upon the Maple Leafs

The decision to not bring Kyle Dubas back as general manager should cast an even brighter spotlight on Brendan Shanahan.

theathletic.com

 

[chet1926]

Is it really shocking to see Dubas out? I figured if he didn't win the Cup he'd be gone.

Finally get over the round 1 hump only to completely shit the bed to the 8 seed round 2.

Dubas firing was inevitable. That team is a trainwreck of soft underperforming, overpaid, guys. They've got some basically impossible problems to fix. It won't be easy for whomever gets the job.

 

[Reparlana]

Dubas used the Leafs as his training wheels, saw the writing on the walls and is going to watch them explode. Press conference was leverage.

He's done a fine job as GM, when your star players don't show up your not going to win.

He'll land a GM job elsewhere and we can all watch Toronto bottom out.

 

[dahrougem2]

I think Logan Cooley going back to university should send major red flags to the Coyotes. What the f*** does he need to do there? Guy dominated the NCAA last season, he doesn't need to keep playing there.

This has trade written all over it. Obviously they'll never let him walk to UFA without signing.

 

[UncleRisto]

What’s the rush ?

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I like how they do Coyotes hockey and women's gymnastics.

 

[The Merchant]

 

[LOFIN]

Multiple sources close to the team said that Shanahan had blocked transactions that Dubas wanted to make at key points in the past several seasons, creating frustration in parts of the management group. Shanahan had also at times dictated certain moves he wanted made that Dubas didn’t agree with.

The president, as per his place in the hierarchy, typically won out in those battles. And, in some cases, the moves that weren’t made could have improved the Leafs’ ability to advance further in the playoffs.

The friction in the Leafs front office and the relationship between the two men was still a factor, however, and Dubas’ desire for greater autonomy from Shanahan is believed to have been one of the untold reasons for how things ultimately played out.

Mirtle: With Kyle Dubas gone, prepare for more Maple Leafs front-office fallout

The Maple Leafs' parting ways with Kyle Dubas is likely the beginning of front-office upheaval with the team.

theathletic.com

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Hey, if you're looking for a good time then head on over to the main boards and read the thread about whether it's time for a Canadian only professional league. f***ing excellent shit in there. The summary is: Canada is the best hockey nation, but bettman and taxes ruin it so all the Canadian markets are at a disadvantage, they can't sign FA, except for those that they do. It's not fair. Canada deserves a cup.

 

[Balthazar]

Shanahan had blocked transactions that Dubas wanted to make at key points in the past several season

Marek and Friedman were insisting in a podcast this week that Shanahan is close to Nylander because he's the first guy that they picked when he got hired in Toronto and he his special to him. I didn't understand why they were saying it but with this information it now looks like they knew Shanny blocked any Nylander trade.

Imagine Dubas trying to change his core because he knows it doesn't work in the playoffs just to get blocked by Shanahan. Then having to answer the Toronto media why he failed again year after year and taking all the blame from the fans.

 

[BaconNater]

Why did the Leafs even hitch the wagon to Shanahan and why does he survive all of this?

 

[John Mandalorian]

Mirtle: With Kyle Dubas gone, prepare for more Maple Leafs front-office fallout

The Maple Leafs' parting ways with Kyle Dubas is likely the beginning of front-office upheaval with the team.

theathletic.com

What does Shan-Satan do exactly?

 

[dahrougem2]

Dubas probably is a good GM, probably also was a bit overrated but I have a feeling Brendan Shanahan wants to put his stamp on the team and it is going to be hilariously bad.

 

[Balthazar]

Will Keller's dad apologize for lying about the hacking stuff? Or perhaps it's just a coincidence that the hacker talked about Keller not wanting to play in AZ following the arena decision and then Keller's agents asking to meet the team:

The forward's representatives Brian and Scott Bartlett met with the team to seek clarity about the future direction of the franchise.

Clayton Keller's agents meet with Coyotes to discuss future

Clayton Keller's agents met with the Arizona Coyotes on Thursday to discuss the organization's future both on and off the ice.

www.sportsnet.ca

 

[LOFIN]

Lol

 

[Hasbro]

Unfortunate that there's already the Edmonton Oilers, because I just discovered this and now want the Houston Oilers hockey team

Shame the Adams family was so bitter after the move they killed that brand. There no THERE with the Houston Texans.

 

[Hasbro]

What’s the rush ?

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Wonder if Dubas ends up in Pittsburgh?

Hope so for the sake of a future Crosby to Colorado trade.

 

[Hasbro]

I mean Shanahan better have a good backup plan ready. Because there's not much time.

It will be interesting to hear Dubas' side of the story eventually.

Mirtle in The Athletic already published some vague accounts of Shanny vetoing trades.

 

[Reparlana]

Hey, if you're looking for a good time then head on over to the main boards and read the thread about whether it's time for a Canadian only professional league. f***ing excellent shit in there. The summary is: Canada is the best hockey nation, but bettman and taxes ruin it so all the Canadian markets are at a disadvantage, they can't sign FA, except for those that they do. It's not fair. Canada deserves a cup.

Probably made by a disgruntled Oilers fan

 

[Metallo]

Embarrassing. Clown franchise.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

I think Logan Cooley going back to university should send major red flags to the Coyotes. What the f*** does he need to do there? Guy dominated the NCAA last season, he doesn't need to keep playing there.

This has trade written all over it. Obviously they'll never let him walk to UFA without signing.

Didn't Makar go back to NCAA an extra year and it paid off big time.

 

[Balthazar]

 

[dahrougem2]

Didn't Makar go back to NCAA an extra year and it paid off big time.

Yeah, but Makar hadn't just completely destroyed the NCAA and been a finalist for the Hobey Baker.

To me this smells like Cooley angling his way out of Arizona ala Blake Wheeler.