Around the League - 2023 Offseason Edition

[Balthazar]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

I don't get it. If you are suspect of drinking under influence, don't they take breath analyser test or blood to make sure you were under influence? How can you be charged without such a prove. It's nonsense.

 

[Foppa2118]

I disagree that that we didn't know enough about the Babcock situation early on.

We knew Babock's history. We knew he didn't deny going through player's phones. We knew Friedman said multiple players were uncomfortable with what happened. We knew Biz doubled down and said he confirmed it with members of the team.

We knew enough not to question the validity of the reports or take Babcock's self serving PR statement at face value.

 

[dahrougem2]

I disagree that that we didn't know enough about the Babcock situation early on.

We knew Babock's history. We knew he didn't deny going through player's phones. We knew Friedman said multiple players were uncomfortable with what happened. We knew Biz doubled down and said he confirmed it with members of the team.

We knew enough not to question the validity of the reports or take Babcock's self serving PR statement at face value.

As the great Ari Gold once said:

"When you're done f***ing your enemies, f*** em some more."

I hope the entire hockey world shits on Babcock.

 

[Foppa2118]

I don't get it. If you are suspect of drinking under influence, don't they take breath analyser test or blood to make sure you were under influence? How can you be charged without such a prove. It's nonsense.

You can refuse a breathalyzer, which I believe he did. But this can be held against you and they can charge you based on evidence like poor driving, the smell of alcohol on your breath, or slurred speech.

Brunette was clearly drunk from that video. He was slurring his speech and I think he admitted to drinking at least some alcohol.

Basically this is the result of having money and a good lawyer. But it's also just a golf cart. Seems like a decent chance he might have a problem though and may drive under the influence in a car, which could be a problem.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I'm still scratching my head over the Mike Babcock thing. I was pissed that he was hired, and somehow, I still feel sorry for the dude having this blow up before he even had a practice with the team.

In the end it doesn't really matter, the players wanted him gone and he honestly should never have been hired in the first place. I just feel bad for the players. They now get the guy that was passed over for Brad f'in Larson to lead them.

I still don't feel too bad for Mike. He put a lot of negative into the universe. In addition to adding positives to make up for it, sometimes you just gotta eat a shitload of negatives as well. I know. They taste better with ketchup.

 

[henchman21]

Lawyers are amazing

 

[Foppa2118]

I'm still scratching my head over the Mike Babcock thing. I was pissed that he was hired, and somehow, I still feel sorry for the dude having this blow up before he even had a practice with the team.

In the end it doesn't really matter, the players wanted him gone and he honestly should never have been hired in the first place. I just feel bad for the players. They now get the guy that was passed over for Brad f'in Larson to lead them.

I still don't feel too bad for Mike. He put a lot of negative into the universe. In addition to adding positives to make up for it, sometimes you just gotta eat a shitload of negatives as well. I know. They taste better with ketchup.

Kinda feel bad for Pascal Vincent. Sounds like he was passed over multiple times for the head coaching gig.

He's gotta be thinking, "Oh now you want me bail you out and step in to coach this clown show right before the season starts?"

Also feels like their owner didn't fire Jarmo and JD because he didn't want to add to the chaos this season. So if they miss the playoffs again, which seems likely, it will give him a reason to hire a new GM, who will most likely want to hire a new head coach.

 

[dahrougem2]

Which owner would honestly want Jarmo as GM after this? The team has been bad for mostly ever, now this?

He better pray Columbus pulls out a miracle and makes playoffs.

 

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[Balthazar]

Kinda feel bad for Pascal Vincent. Sounds like he was passed over multiple times for the head coaching gig.

He's gotta be thinking, "Oh now you want me bail you out and step in to coach this clown show right before the season starts?"

Someone on the radio yesterday compared the Vincent situation to Bednar's first season (Roy left just before training camp).

It sure wasn't easy for Bednar that first year.

Which owner would honestly want Jarmo as GM after this? The team has been bad for mostly ever, now this?

He better pray Columbus pulls out a miracle and makes playoffs.

There's no way he should stay employed long enough to benefit from them making the playoffs (if they were to make them).

 

[Foppa2118]

Someone on the radio yesterday compared the Vincent situation to Bednar's first season (Roy left just before training camp).

It sure wasn't easy for Bednar that first year.

Similar but Roy left on August 11 and Bednar was hired August 25th. So he had a little more time, but not that much.

The bigger problem for Pascal is that Columbus passed him over and then put him in this very hard to win position. Obviously he couldn't turn it down, but if it doesn't go well, it could negatively impact his career more than if he had stayed an assistant.

 

[UncleRisto]

I disagree that that we didn't know enough about the Babcock situation early on.

We knew Babock's history. We knew he didn't deny going through player's phones. We knew Friedman said multiple players were uncomfortable with what happened. We knew Biz doubled down and said he confirmed it with members of the team.

We knew enough not to question the validity of the reports or take Babcock's self serving PR statement at face value.

He didn't deny exhuming those dead babies either, which I suspected.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I disagree that that we didn't know enough about the Babcock situation early on.

We knew Babock's history. We knew he didn't deny going through player's phones. We knew Friedman said multiple players were uncomfortable with what happened. We knew Biz doubled down and said he confirmed it with members of the team.

We knew enough not to question the validity of the reports or take Babcock's self serving PR statement at face value.

babcock gets zero benefit of the doubt after the shit he did to Franzen.

 

[Foppa2118]

He didn't deny exhuming those dead babies either, which I suspected.

Give it time.

 

[Ceremony]

I see Saint Louis has named a punching bag as captain



(Click on it you know you want to)

 

[Ararana]

I must be nice to have a rich and famous daddy.

 

[dahrougem2]

babcock gets zero benefit of the doubt after the shit he did to Franzen.

You know what? After Franzen abused us that might be the one time I look the other way for Babs.

 

[Ararana]

 

[MarkT]

This isn't a player asking for PP time or being taken off the top line.

If a coach asked me to go through my phone, at 18, I'm telling him to f*** off. I'm telling that to any employer in any profession.

That's great, but you'd also be the guys Babcock sends down to the minors or keeps in the press box no matter how well you play.

Kinda feel bad for Pascal Vincent. Sounds like he was passed over multiple times for the head coaching gig.

He's gotta be thinking, "Oh now you want me bail you out and step in to coach this clown show right before the season starts?"

Also feels like their owner didn't fire Jarmo and JD because he didn't want to add to the chaos this season. So if they miss the playoffs again, which seems likely, it will give him a reason to hire a new GM, who will most likely want to hire a new head coach.

The one hope is that this helps really pull the team together and gives them a big chip on their shoulder. Teams that use situations like this as motivation can often outperform expectations.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Ararana]

All good things must come to an end. I don't think we see Tampa in the finals for a long long time.

 

[LOFIN]

Which owner would honestly want Jarmo as GM after this? The team has been bad for mostly ever, now this?

He better pray Columbus pulls out a miracle and makes playoffs.

Oh there should be plenty of interest. Like every GM, he's had hits and misses, but most of the time he has battled the odds with players leaving simply because of the market. From all I've gathered, (podcasts, articles etc.), he's a very respected GM around the league. And while Seravelli ripped him on his podcast, a few players actually came to his defence (Biz and Vorachek), so I don't think this incident is going to determine anything regarding his career.

Blue Jackets actually had a very good run from 16-17 to 19-20. Yeah, they only got through round 1 once, but all 3 of those first round exits they lost to the eventual champions. They had good regular seasons.

And regardless of how you feel about him as a GM, look at the other bad GMs that are still getting jobs in the league.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]