Around the League - 2023/24

[Tommy Shelby]

Or if the Avs used it for anything but legit injuries.

Bettman got more upset at the Avs buying out Orpik and Washington re-signing him, then they are at teams cheating the cap to make big additions they'd never be able to afford otherwise.

Avs still have the stink of being a former Canadian team on them, he will forever hate us. He hates Zona too, that's why he keeps prolonging their suffering

 

[thedoctor]

You mean to tell me that MacDermid doesn't deter dirty plays? I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you

 

[myperbixhurts]

Dermy was trying to fight Rempe all game long, the kid wouldn’t do it

 

[Foppa2118]

Case#938472839 that that deterrent shit isnt a thing anymore.

Depends on the player and if they have any honor. Some do, some don't. Also shows how ineffective the DoPS are.

Someone like Rempe knows he can act tough and then turn down a fight with MacDermid without facing any shame for it anymore.

Then he can go elbow a guy in the head, and waive at the Devils bench, because at most he'll get a couple games, and if anybody goes after him in a game later they'll get suspended for way longer.

How many games would Dermy get if he broke from from that linesman and went and pummeled Rempe for a dirty hit? Like 15-20+ probably. The dirty elbow probably probably gets 2-3.

Only one of those actions is something that should cause a realistic concern for players well being post career. The other is the reaction to something that could cause that.

The Rangers have at least two guys with no honor like that too. Trouba and Rempe both ran away from a fight with MacDermid.

Just shows how innefective the league is at policing itself now. Nothing is a deterrent for a lot of guys. They don't let the enforcers police it, and they don't really do anything to police it either.

 

[Avsfan1921]

I don’t blame Rempe for turning Dermy down, I think it was more of a tactical decision to try and goad Dermy into a stupid penalty in a very important game. He’s fought all the other heavyweights that’ve challenged him. And it’s not like Dermy was there in their previous meetings so Rempe, at the time, didn’t have to fight him imo.

I do blame him for the stupid hit and showmanship afterwards however. He most definitely has to answer the bell moving forward imo.

 

[McMetal]

I am quickly souring on the Rempe story. That's not the first time he's made a dangerous, headhunting, unnecessary hit in his first 10 games. Certain people who get a boner for big tough guys who fight are blinding themselves to the emerging reality that he's just a menace who likes to hurt people. The league doesn't need that kind of player in it, the sooner he gets a Raffi Torres suspension, the better.

 

[The Kingslayer]

Depends on the player and if they have any honor. Some do, some don't. Also shows how ineffective the DoPS are.

Someone like Rempe knows he can act tough and then turn down a fight with MacDermid without facing any shame for it anymore.

Then he can go elbow a guy in the head, and waive at the Devils bench, because at most he'll get a couple games, and if anybody goes after him in a game later they'll get suspended for way longer.

How many games would Dermy get if he broke from from that linesman and went and pummeled Rempe for a dirty hit? Like 15-20+ probably. The dirty elbow probably probably gets 2-3.

Only one of those actions is something that should cause a realistic concern for players well being post career. The other is the reaction to something that could cause that.

The Rangers have at least two guys with no honor like that too. Trouba and Rempe both ran away from a fight with MacDermid.

Just shows how innefective the league is at policing itself now. Nothing is a deterrent for a lot of guys. They don't let the enforcers police it, and they don't really do anything to police it either.

Exactly. Thats why I said anymore. 30 yrs ago Rempe is in the ICU for that shit and if not one of the other Ranger players is.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I don’t blame Rempe for turning Dermy down, I think it was more of a tactical decision to try and goad Dermy into a stupid penalty in a very important game. He’s fought all the other heavyweights that’ve challenged him. And it’s not like Dermy was there in their previous meetings so Rempe, at the time, didn’t have to fight him imo.

I do blame him for the stupid hit and showmanship afterwards however. He most definitely has to answer the bell moving forward imo.

based on how Rempe been getting beaten up I dont think he wants anything to do with Macdermid. Sure turning Kurtis down could be tactical but he probably also doesnt want that smoke.

 

[Avsfan1921]

based on how Rempe been getting beaten up I dont think he wants anything to do with Macdermid. Sure turning Kurtis down could be tactical but he probably also doesnt want that smoke.

I doubt he’d look forward to it but I’d bet money that he would if there was a reason, of which there now is. I’d place money that he and MacDermid will fight the next game they play each other.

 

[The Kingslayer]

I doubt he’d look forward to it but I’d bet money that he would if there was a reason, of which there now is. I’d place money that he and MacDermid will fight the next game they play each other.

I think Macdermid should mug him haha

 

[Pokecheque]

Case#938472839 that that deterrent shit isnt a thing anymore.

It never was.

 

[Pokecheque]

Exactly. Thats why I said anymore. 30 yrs ago Rempe is in the ICU for that shit and if not one of the other Ranger players is.

Nah. People like Rempe have never had to answer for their bullshit. I don’t recall anyone bringing Ulf Samuelsson to “justice,” and he ended AT LEAST one NHL career. Matt Cooke literally made the league alter the rulebook (for a few years at least) and no one ever injured him the way he injured so many others. Nick Cousins actually has gotten a couple paybacks for his idiocy and yet he’s still out there doing it.

And of course there was Raffi Torres, who was so bad the league pretty much forced him into retirement at the end there. Even his own team refused to defend him at that point.

 

[Pokecheque]

We all know how the Matt Rempe story is going to end. He’s just a really big guy who’s willing to hurt other players. There’s nothing else special about him. He’s a really shitty hockey player and like a lot of supposed “tough guys,” he’s dirty as f***.

In the end he will have carved out a meager NHL career and the league and us bloodthirsty fans will have moved on to the next guy, with earnings that won’t even come close to cover the mountain of medical expenses he’ll be dealing with. If he’s lucky he’ll end up like Scotty Parker, who himself was EXTREMELY lucky to have a proper support system around him so that he was able to make an honest earning and receive the level of care he desperately needs. If he’s not, well…again…we all know how those stories end.

 

[Foppa2118]

Nah. People like Rempe have never had to answer for their bullshit. I don’t recall anyone bringing Ulf Samuelsson to “justice,” and he ended AT LEAST one NHL career. Matt Cooke literally made the league alter the rulebook (for a few years at least) and no one ever injured him the way he injured so many others. Nick Cousins actually has gotten a couple paybacks for his idiocy and yet he’s still out there doing it.

And of course there was Raffi Torres, who was so bad the league pretty much forced him into retirement at the end there. Even his own team refused to defend him at that point.

These are the exceptions to the rule back then though.

We all have our opinions on this, but the opinions that carry the most weight are the players, because they actually know, and most, if not all would say that enforcers were a deterrent back in the day.

I'd also argue that players advocating for adding enforcers in today's NHL, which I believe we heard something along the lines of with the Avs core and MacDermid, shows there's at least some element of it today. Not nearly as big a deterrent, but still one in some circumstances for some players.

They know how they approach the game with enforcers on other teams, so they know how some on the other team will feel with one on theirs. Not all but some.

 

[Alienblood]

Nah. People like Rempe have never had to answer for their bullshit. I don’t recall anyone bringing Ulf Samuelsson to “justice,” and he ended AT LEAST one NHL career. Matt Cooke literally made the league alter the rulebook (for a few years at least) and no one ever injured him the way he injured so many others. Nick Cousins actually has gotten a couple paybacks for his idiocy and yet he’s still out there doing it.

And of course there was Raffi Torres, who was so bad the league pretty much forced him into retirement at the end there. Even his own team refused to defend him at that point.

Tie Domi did

 

[Pokecheque]

Tie Domi did

We will see if Rempe gets the book thrown at him like they did with Domi, I’m doubtful. At least Domi seemed to show genuine remorse for his actions, I don’t know if Rempe is remotely that smart.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Gumballhead]

We will see if Rempe gets the book thrown at him like they did with Domi, I’m doubtful. At least Domi seemed to show genuine remorse for his actions, I don’t know if Rempe is remotely that smart.

I'm not big on setting examples using one player, but I feel like maybe Rempe needs a very hard lesson from the league. They can deter these things by punishing them severely but unfortunately the types of players who do these things are often not all that missed. BUT for example if you make the Rangers go 10 games without a guy like Trouba - maybe teams themselves would put a Bednar leash on their "edgy" guys.

Missed opportunity is on the other line of that call.

 

[JLo217]

The NHL should've made this closer to 10. That's about as cut and dry as it gets. This guy terrifies me. I was hoping he'd be out when they played the Avs. Seems like he has something to prove for no real reason.

 

[LOFIN]

Case#938472839 that that deterrent shit isnt a thing anymore.

Never was

 

[Chiarelli]

Rempe has quickly become a fan favourite and that is much more important to the league than player safety. Don't expect more than a game or two.

 

[Gatorbait19]

I seriously question the character of guys like Letang when they pull shit like that.

The real dilemma here is, do the Pens just up and give up that first rounder they owe SJ this year, or do they keep it and just hope to hell they don't suck even worse in 2025? Boomer and Hahn were debating it on NHL Radio today and they said just bite the bullet.

The right move is of course giving up this year’s pick (as long as it’s not top 3-5), but trading Crosby and not re-signing Malkin/Letang was also the right move.

Reality is that if they keep Crosby, then they’ll keep and should trade the pick for immediate help. If they don’t keep Crosby, then they’d be foolish to keep it as they’ll be the worst team in the league next year.

 

[S E P H]

I am quickly souring on the Rempe story. That's not the first time he's made a dangerous, headhunting, unnecessary hit in his first 10 games. Certain people who get a boner for big tough guys who fight are blinding themselves to the emerging reality that he's just a menace who likes to hurt people. The league doesn't need that kind of player in it, the sooner he gets a Raffi Torres suspension, the better.

Nah, this is the first dangerous hit he's done. The Bastian one is just a big bloke hitting a small bloke, nothing evil "headhunting" about that. He should be suspended for this one though and multiple games 3-5. I don't think he is a dirty player, I just think he has to pick his spots better than always looking for a bone-crushing hit. That will take some practice and trail and error to get it right.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]