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Wings took a ton of shortcuts which is usually a huge mistake on the long run. We'll see.
It will be interesting to watch. The vast majority of their short cuts are off the book next summer or the summer after... which is good timing for their picks to develop. When you look 3 years out, they only have 4 guys signed... and usually the biggest issues with UFA shortcuts are the termed ones. They have Copp and Compher on those deals, but they are young enough it should be fine. The Perron, Ghost, Sprong, Kane, Maata, Petry etc are giving them good depth and support while not being anchors. Next year they can break in a defensemen and then a forward or two with the expiring deals. Then to the same the following season. I don't know if it will work perfectly, but they've built a Seattle like depth team with a path towards becoming younger over 2-3 seasons... and zero cap complications in the near future.

I think Detroit is one of the more interesting stories to watch and learn from. They could prove or disprove the depth debate in a way. If they do well and make a run, they make a case that you can build depth via UFA and take a below average team to a good one in a span of an offseason without going after the high profile guys.

In a way, Detroit took the Vegas/Seattle model and applied it to an existing team.
 
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It will be interesting to watch. The vast majority of their short cuts are off the book next summer or the summer after... which is good timing for their picks to develop. When you look 3 years out, they only have 4 guys signed... and usually the biggest issues with UFA shortcuts are the termed ones. They have Copp and Compher on those deals, but they are young enough it should be fine. The Perron, Ghost, Sprong, Kane, Maata, Petry etc are giving them good depth and support while not being anchors. Next year they can break in a defensemen and then a forward or two with the expiring deals. Then to the same the following season. I don't know if it will work perfectly, but they've built a Seattle like depth team with a path towards becoming younger over 2-3 seasons... and zero cap complications in the near future.

I think Detroit is one of the more interesting stories to watch and learn from. They could prove or disprove the depth debate in a way. If they do well and make a run, they make a case that you can build depth via UFA and take a below average team to a good one in a span of an offseason without going after the high profile guys.

In a way, Detroit took the Vegas/Seattle model and applied it to an existing team.

Depth teams work, Vegas more on their first run, and then STL are proof.

I'm wondering if Detroit has the heavy checking play style to really pull that off, as well as the goalie needed.

If they make the playoffs it should be interesting.
 
Depth teams work, Vegas more on their first run, and then STL are proof.

I'm wondering if Detroit has the heavy checking play style to really pull that off, as well as the goalie needed.

If they make the playoffs it should be interesting.
Yeah we've seen it very clearly on expansion and St Louis is another good example. I don't know if it will work for Detroit, but that's clearly the gameplan. Screw breaking in the young guys early... sign the cast off depth guys for cheap on short terms, and then when the kids are 21-22-23 they can step in to a team already winning. That's the whole idea. If it works, teams will copy.
 
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Yeah we've seen it very clearly on expansion and St Louis is another good example. I don't know if it will work for Detroit, but that's clearly the gameplan. Screw breaking in the young guys early... sign the cast off depth guys for cheap on short terms, and then when the kids are 21-22-23 they can step in to a team already winning. That's the whole idea. If it works, teams will copy.

Those teams can be kryptonite for skilled teams too. We know that all too well. So does Tampa lol.

I'm definitely here for Toronto and Detroit running into each other if Detroit can do real damage in the playoffs.

There is quite the hatred for each other in the fan bases. People here hate it when Toronto fans descend on Detroit lol.
 
Yeah we've seen it very clearly on expansion and St Louis is another good example. I don't know if it will work for Detroit, but that's clearly the gameplan. Screw breaking in the young guys early... sign the cast off depth guys for cheap on short terms, and then when the kids are 21-22-23 they can step in to a team already winning. That's the whole idea. If it works, teams will copy.
I guess we'll see if it works. I'm sure that Detroit would have loved to receive some lottery luck and get some higher draft picks with true star potential. They played Seider heavy minutes early, so I do wonder how much of the current setup is a function of a plan to let prospects develop and how much is just forced on them by prospects not being ready to jump in.

If we consider the Blues' Cup win as a weird exception (or pretend it didn't happen at all, which I'm down with), it's hard to find a Cup winning team without a couple bona fide stars when looking back at the previous 15 years.
 
I guess we'll see if it works. I'm sure that Detroit would have loved to receive some lottery luck and get some higher draft picks with true star potential. They played Seider heavy minutes early, so I do wonder how much of the current setup is a function of a plan to let prospects develop and how much is just forced on them by prospects not being ready to jump in.

If we consider the Blues' Cup win as a weird exception (or pretend it didn't happen at all, which I'm down with), it's hard to find a Cup winning team without a couple bona fide stars when looking back at the previous 15 years.

A couple years ago, they also broke in Raymond. But they were still slower with guys. Seider could have very easily played in 20-21. He was fantastic in the AHL and they elected to keep him down the whole season. When he came in, yeah he got big minutes... but that's what I think they are going for. Getting the 21-22-23 year old guys who are ready to step into a legit role instead of suffering through them up and down the lineup and struggling. Today, Edvinsson is clearly NHL ready and could step in today somewhere between a 4-6 role. They elected to have him really round out his offensive game while Ghost gets them through this season. Berggren is kinda a werid one, but might also be the impetus... he was up and down a lot in his play last year. You saw the talent, but also saw him struggle massively. This year they got guys to where he is basically forced to round out his game in the AHL while contracts expire and if he does (or injuries pull him up) he can establish himself after Perron's contract expires. Mazur is another guy who on a less patient team, probably plays today and a team deals with the ups and downs. So he gets a full year in the AHL, but also isn't blocked next year.

We will just see how this goes.

Detroit isn't a Cup contender... and that shouldn't be the expectation here. They are building a depth team to get into the playoffs and maybe win a round or two. Get some winning culture and support for the young players. While not blocking the young players on a longer timeframe. Yeah they might enter a year or two after most teams... but the idea is the warts are froze off.

I personally don't know how I feel about it yet. I'm more of a sink or swim sort of guy. If you're an impact guy, you'll figure it out or you won't. If you're depth, sure come along more slowly... but I'm not gonna think you're the second coming. IE Foudy/OO taking as long as they are, they are simply depth. I don't think either will be an impact level player. If guys like Edvission and Mazur follow more of that Seider path of giving them an extra year or so and can step in right away... that might change my opinion.
 
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How is it possible that the Caps are 12-7-2 and have Ovie as the top scorer with only 14pts. It makes no sense.

Caps just allowed a 2-man breakaway SHG where the Yotes had the time to make two 1-2 pass.
He's everywhere!


What the actual f*** was that goal call, worse than the worst of Moser. :laugh:
 
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I think Vegas is gonna miss Reilly Smith somewhat similar like Avs missed Kadri following a cup win next season. They replaced a 50 point player in Smith with Barbashev who’s on pace for 30 points
 
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