Around the League 2022-23 season

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I'm in the small minority but after seeing this i think it might be a good thing for the Coyotes. That barn is absolutely ROCKING and even though your'e going to shrink the arena for a bit its' going to be f***ing wild packing that thing and might actually be a good thing in the long run

 
Unless McDavid gets hurt, I don't see any way the Kings finish top 3 in the division.

We're not catching VGK or CAL. EDM always has ups and down, but they'll get it together. So that's likely your top 3 right there.
 
Unless McDavid gets hurt, I don't see any way the Kings finish top 3 in the division.

We're not catching VGK or CAL. EDM always has ups and down, but they'll get it together. So that's likely your top 3 right there.
Vegas and Anaheim were tied for first place at the holiday break last season. It is way too early for these kind of statementa.
 
Vegas and Anaheim were tied for first place at the holiday break last season. It is way too early for these kind of statementa.
It's not based purely on this seasons play.

The problem with Vegas last year was simply that they needed a coaching change. Which they got.

I think it's pretty clear VGK/CAL/EDM are the class of the division. But you never know...
 
jesus christ their postgame is basically an amateur podcasting setup

that's brutal

i want them to succeed through all this but wow
 
Unless McDavid gets hurt, I don't see any way the Kings finish top 3 in the division.

We're not catching VGK or CAL. EDM always has ups and down, but they'll get it together. So that's likely your top 3 right there.
We're 8 games in and we already have the playoff seeds figured out, lol. Just end the season now so nobody gets hurt!

wow, just wow.
 
We're 8 games in and we already have the playoff seeds figured out, lol. Just end the season now so nobody gets hurt!

wow, just wow.
Yeah we definitely don't want to discuss our predictions for this season. That's not what message boards are for.

Also, my analysis isn't based on 8 games.

But you're not really responding to me making a prediction. Had I said the Kings will finish top 3, you wouldn't have even responded.
 
Yeah we definitely don't want to discuss our predictions for this season. That's not what message boards are for.

Also, my analysis isn't based on 8 games.

But you're not really responding to me making a prediction. Had I said the Kings will finish top 3, you wouldn't have even responded.
Oh sorry, was that your prediction cause it you made it sound like it’s basically a fact.

And FYI, Vegas’s problem last year wasn’t coaching, it was injuries.
 
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Oh sorry, was that your prediction cause it you made it sound like it’s basically a fact.

And FYI, Vegas’s problem last year wasn’t coaching, it was injuries.

I mean, the amount of hypocrisy in one post couldn't be this intentional, could it?

****ing Coyotes ruining a player by giving him 13:34 ice time per game, including 2:57 powerplay time on average PER GAME, before he's even old enough to drink.

Detroit and Ottawa are ruining their kids too, dontchaknow
 
I mean, the amount of hypocrisy in one post couldn't be this intentional, could it?



Detroit and Ottawa are ruining their kids too, dontchaknow
We will know in 5 years or so, I guess.

Detroit did this before with Larkin, Mantha, AA, etc. Their streak of missing the playoffs has been impressive since then. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt.
 
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Because you literally attacked someone for not declaring that their post was an opinion, then turned right around IN THE SAME RESPONSE and made a declaration as though it was a fact without the same kind of qualifier.

For ****s sake, if you need everyone to start every post with "In my opinion" you may need a set of directions on how to use a message board without irritating the entire community.
 
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Because you literally attacked someone for not declaring that their post was an opinion, then turned right around IN THE SAME RESPONSE and made a declaration as though it was a fact without the same kind of qualifier.
But it is fact. I wasn't predicting the future.
 
Yeah we definitely don't want to discuss our predictions for this season. That's not what message boards are for.

Also, my analysis isn't based on 8 games.

But you're not really responding to me making a prediction. Had I said the Kings will finish top 3, you wouldn't have even responded.
He would only be happy if every post here was "Nice work by the Kings."
 
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I know this is tongue in cheek, but theyve done that to a good amount of players and dont have shit to show for it but misery. Not the franchise I would want to emulate.
Do you think how the team develops their players is the cause for their misery? Not the fact they have a large chunk of their cap tied to players on IR, the unstable and cheap ownership, problems with making payments or, well, anything else?

There's always a balance. It's why I have advocated against trading Kopitar, Doughty, etc. The organization has veterans where they can leverage them in the development and transition process.

That the org went through a rebuild and still leans on the veterans drafted well before it is maddening.
 
I'm in the small minority but after seeing this i think it might be a good thing for the Coyotes. That barn is absolutely ROCKING and even though your'e going to shrink the arena for a bit its' going to be f***ing wild packing that thing and might actually be a good thing in the long run
I agree. It could be a unique and humbling environment that the team could rally around.

I'm thinking about taking a road trip and checking it out when the Kings play there. It'll be a weird place to see a game.

Cheapest tickets right now are $134ea.
 
Do you think how the team develops their players is the cause for their misery? Not the fact they have a large chunk of their cap tied to players on IR, the unstable and cheap ownership, problems with making payments or, well, anything else?

There's always a balance. It's why I have advocated against trading Kopitar, Doughty, etc. The organization has veterans where they can leverage them in the development and transition process.

That the org went through a rebuild and still leans on the veterans drafted well before it is maddening.

That's part of it, but you would think throwing all those young guys who were higher draft picks in there would have yielded more than one great player. I still think Arizona is a terrible example.

Garland turned out damn well for a 5th rounder I would say. He spent 2 years in the AHL despite getting close to 130 points in juniors his last 2 years. It paid off.

Dvorak didn't get any AHL time, late 2nd round pick. Solid I would say, but not great. In the 30 point range every year.

They brought up Fisher who was a high 2nd, put him in the A for a year then brought him up. Had a decent year when he was 20/21 but hasn't done shit since. Brought up way too early.

Hayton was 5th overall, they brought him in right away. That didn't work, so they sent him down. Then in Europe for a few games, then back to Phx. Then up and down. He's shown no sign of doing anything, they should have let him develop somewhere stable rather than try to force it. He looks like a bust at the moment.

Keller was 7th overall. Brought him up right away and he succeeded. Definitely the gem of their group. Had that great year right away, but then trailed off for a bit. Solidly in the 40 point range with a couple 60+ seasons. He's their biggest success of any player brought in right away.

Crouse was brought up right away with only a couple AHL games. Didn't do much, sent him down for half a season then right back up. 11th overall and his peak so far is the 24 points last year. He looks solid so far this year, but he didn't start scoring until after his AHL year. Had they did that right away, he'd be a much better player.

So.... bringing all those guys up early led to one really good player in Keller. That's it. Had they treated them all like Garland they would be in a lot better shape.
 
That's part of it, but you would think throwing all those young guys who were higher draft picks in there would have yielded more than one great player. I still think Arizona is a terrible example.

Garland turned out damn well for a 5th rounder I would say. He spent 2 years in the AHL despite getting close to 130 points in juniors his last 2 years. It paid off.

Dvorak didn't get any AHL time, late 2nd round pick. Solid I would say, but not great. In the 30 point range every year.

They brought up Fisher who was a high 2nd, put him in the A for a year then brought him up. Had a decent year when he was 20/21 but hasn't done shit since. Brought up way too early.

Hayton was 5th overall, they brought him in right away. That didn't work, so they sent him down. Then in Europe for a few games, then back to Phx. Then up and down. He's shown no sign of doing anything, they should have let him develop somewhere stable rather than try to force it. He looks like a bust at the moment.

Keller was 7th overall. Brought him up right away and he succeeded. Definitely the gem of their group. Had that great year right away, but then trailed off for a bit. Solidly in the 40 point range with a couple 60+ seasons. He's their biggest success of any player brought in right away.

Crouse was brought up right away with only a couple AHL games. Didn't do much, sent him down for half a season then right back up. 11th overall and his peak so far is the 24 points last year. He looks solid so far this year, but he didn't start scoring until after his AHL year. Had they did that right away, he'd be a much better player.

So.... bringing all those guys up early led to one really good player in Keller. That's it. Had they treated them all like Garland they would be in a lot better shape.
That's arguable, but I don't even mind the practice of marinating players.

It's:
1 - the assertion by posters here that playing players at a young age will ruin them
2 - the lack of flexibility of how forward prospects get opportunity
3 - the org's complete comfort in giving defensive prospects opportunity
 
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I'm in the small minority but after seeing this i think it might be a good thing for the Coyotes. That barn is absolutely ROCKING and even though your'e going to shrink the arena for a bit its' going to be f***ing wild packing that thing and might actually be a good thing in the long run



Maybe, I get where you're going with it and admit that I didn't think of that, but man this is an embarrassing look for the league. I couldn't imagine the Dodgers or Rams playing in college/high school stadiums (I use high school because America is crazy and some college football stadiums probably rival NFL ones), but it is just a mind-boggling thing to have happened and not consider relocation or at least borrowing another comparable stadium elsewhere out of town temporarily. Part of me is tempted to go down there for a Kings game, just to see an NHL game in such a tiny arena though.
 
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Maybe, I get where you're going with it and admit that I didn't think of that, but man this is an embarrassing look for the league. I couldn't imagine the Dodgers or Rams playing in college/high school stadiums (I use high school because America is crazy and some college football stadiums probably rival NFL ones), but it is just a mind-boggling thing to have happened and not consider relocation or at least borrowing another comparable stadium elsewhere out of town temporarily. Part of me is tempted to go down there for a Kings game, just to see an NHL game in such a tiny arena though.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a bad look for the league, I mostly agree with every detail there. But for the franchise, I see so much of the boldfaced, so with a packed barn, different atmosphere...you get what I'm saying!
 
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