Around the League - 2022-23 season thread part I

[Guttersniped]

Why do the Coyotes keep picking up goalies?

They already picked up Jonas Johansson from Colorado on waivers like almost 2 weeks ago. Now Ingram?

Ingram has more upside than Johansson, if they didn’t grab him someone else would. We picked up Comrie then picked up Dell. You never know if you’ll have a chance to grab (what you think is) a better guy until you do.

Ingram was an elite prospect for a while. Ingram might not be that much in the end, but it seems like personal problems rather than his play has derailed his career a bit. He’ll have his work cut out for him behind that god awful team though.

 

[minibrodeur]

positionally that's definitely fair. He certainly belongs in that region, I just think its ridiculous to have to kucherov not near the top 5. Yes he missed time, but shouldn't that hurt crosby just as much as it would kucherov.
He should be right next to Mackinnon, maybe slightly behind. But the man has two cups and has put points on the board right along with McDavid or just slightly behind. He should be top 5.



Crosby deserves to be up there. In agreement with everything you've said. But just based on the current state of the talent levels and season-long impact I would not have Kucherov below Crosby at this point. Smartest player, sure Crosby can take that. But just plain best players - Kuch has the hardware, the points, the on ice impact right along with pretty much anyone else besides McDavid.

I guess it depends what their criteria for best player is. If it's purely skill and on ice impact, I totally agree. If they're taking into account things like leadership, that's where I see him falling behind guys like Crosby and Barkov.

 

[Brodeur]

Why do the Coyotes keep picking up goalies?

They already picked up Jonas Johansson from Colorado on waivers like almost 2 weeks ago. Now Ingram?

They only had one goalie on a one way deal, so it seemed likely they'd be dumpster diving for a backup. I'm curious if they keep all three for opening night and then give a couple starts to Johansson and Ingram before deciding who they prefer to keep.

And maybe they were eyeing Ingram over Johansson but they weren't sure if Nashville would trade him somewhere else (looking in Philly's general direction), so they grabbed Johansson as an insurance policy.

Edit: Looks like Arizona is putting Johansson on IR to start the season.

 

[My3Sons]

In response to your post from the old thread last night, I'm glad someone that is actually in the know on legal matters is also surprised at why it's taking so long for this investigation or to find out any names.

I've actually been wondering myself why this is dragging out so long. I've been asking myself for a while what's taking so long, but I figured maybe I just don't know the legal system well enough to know.

I really thought we'd have some names by now.

I think it’s being held in Canada so there can always be some local issue. But since they are allegedly getting cooperation from all involved it’s just an issue of how much of a budget the investigation is given. If it’s a government budget it should be ample. Maybe they are compiling and drafting what amounts to a book of the findings? If so that could take a while but the raw fact finding shouldn’t be hard.

 

[My3Sons]

no no no see thats the problem. lets blame someone other then mike hes a grown adult that got into this situation he can make a statement that won't hurt him legally saying hes not guilty and will do whatever it takes to clear his name and no further comment speak to my lawyer. now its just me assuming that hes not innocent and thats why hes not talking.

Lawyers are there to gum up the works to make sure their client gets what he/she wants for better or worse - often for worse. Your inference is widely held. Our system has just made a decision to place no weight on that. In fact the system more or less makes silence a prefemce - hence the right to remain silent or the potential for statements against interest or admissions in civil litigation. I get your point and I’m not saying it’s wrong, just that the system is set up to more or less focus on the results not so much the lead up or optics. There are actually professional rules about publicity for lawyers that seek to regulate it in part for this sort of situation. It’s messy and complex. If McLeod is guilty of something I expect the NHLPA to be involved since no team has taken any step independently which suggests to me some sort of centralized mechanics.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Lou getting the body bags out

 

[Saugus]

Lou getting the body bags out

But he'll tell Chris that he's sending those players "to a farm upstate".

 

[HBK27]

 

[glenwo2]

Lou getting the body bags out

 

[HBK27]

Interesting - should be a non-issue for NJ as Bernier will come off of LTIR at some point.

 

[My3Sons]

Interesting - should be a non-issue for NJ as Bernier will come off of LTIR at some point.

But it says the cap space is now lost forever? And how can they take him off LTIR without an actual cap problem?

 

[HBK27]

But it says the cap space is now lost forever? And how can they take him off LTIR without an actual cap problem?

That's just excess cap space while utilizing LTIR that is lost forever. If/when Bernier comes off of LTIR (assuming no other injuries), they'll have to create space to fit his $4.125M salary under the $82.5M salary cap or will have to waive him.

As I understand it, Johnsson will still have $2.275M count against the cap if/when he's buried in the minors as that only provides $1.125M in relief. With a healthy Bernier & Nico, Bahl in for Nemec and a healthy Thompson in the AHL, that would put the Devils $290K above the salary cap with a 24 man roster. So, any player they move would create enough room to fit under the salary cap.

You'd still think they wouldn't want to waive a forward to open up a slot. Perhaps they send Bahl down for a few games and carry 3 goalies or they just go straight to waiving Bernier, which would get them $834K below the cap.

 

[Patrik26]

But it says the cap space is now lost forever? And how can they take him off LTIR without an actual cap problem?

I didn't understand the forever part, not that I understand ANY of the cap rules and implications of LTIR.

 

[TrufleShufle]

That's just excess cap space while utilizing LTIR that is lost forever. If/when Bernier comes off of LTIR (assuming no other injuries), they'll have to create space to fit his $4.125M salary under the $82.5M salary cap or will have to waive him.

As I understand it, Johnsson will still have $2.275M count against the cap if/when he's buried in the minors as that only provides $1.125M in relief. With a healthy Bernier & Nico, Bahl in for Nemec and a healthy Thompson in the AHL, that would put the Devils $290K above the salary cap with a 24 man roster. So, any player they move would create enough room to fit under the salary cap.

You'd still think they wouldn't want to waive a forward to open up a slot. Perhaps they send Bahl down for a few games and carry 3 goalies or they just go straight to waiving Bernier, which would get them $834K below the cap.

Ahhhhh now I finally understand that I will never understand how of any this works. Thanks!

 

[Bleedred]

I was young when I first saw this movie. Probably 15? That was around the time it came out. I think we either rented it on VHS or maybe even bought it. Some of my friends had already seen it. I don't think I saw it in theaters, but maybe I did and I just forgot? It was like all of us Italians wanted and needed to see the movie when it came out.

Anyway, it took me until I was a bit older to understand certain elements of the movie, as well as many other movies. One of the things I did not understand was how he knew it was trouble when he walked into the room and muttered ''Oh nnn'' before he gets his brains blown out. I wondered if maybe there was something in the room that was a dead giveaway. Perhaps the fish on the wall? That's all I ever noticed in the scene, which is why I referenced it here last week in a potential mock situation with the Islanders and Chris Lamoriello going to a room to be ''Made''.

Someone explained that it was because when you get made, you walk into a room that's full of people, and he walks into a room that's empty and has no one in it.

I'm not sure who else was supposed to be in attendance, as his buddies Henry and Jimmy were back at the diner having breakfast and waiting for the ''Signal'' at the pay phone. Maybe Paulie was supposed to be there, but we would come to find out that he gave the okay to have Tommy whacked for the Billy Bats whacking, and I think all of that was actually real and not a fictionalized part in the movie.

 

[HBK27]

I didn't understand the forever part, not that I understand ANY of the cap rules and implications of LTIR.

The forever part more applies to teams that plan on utilizing LTIR for the entire season, of which there are a handful.

This doesn't really apply to the Devils though, since it appears that Bernier will likely come back at some point this year. If you know that a player will definitely be out all season, then you want to get as close to the cap as possible to replace as much of that salary as you can.

In the Devils situation, their current cap hit is $84,833,292.

This consists of the 14-7-2 players named to the final roster (which includes Johnsson), the Schneider & Kuokkanen buyouts, Kovy's recapture penalty, Nico & Thompson's cap hits on IR and Bernier's cap hit on LTIR.

That $84,833,292 is $2,333,292 over the cap. They could've gone up to $86,625,000 if they would've fully utilized Bernier's LTIR, but they left $1,791,708 in unused LTIR funds from Bernier's $4,125,000.

I'm just not sure how things work out if other players go on LTIR this season while Bernier is there and if that could hurt us in not utilizing that space. But, given that Bernier is expected to return there's not much else Fitz could've done. Having Nemec on the final roster was a no-brainer as all it is is a paper transaction between him and Bahl. There were no options for such moves at forward.

 

[njdevils1982]

That's just excess cap space while utilizing LTIR that is lost forever. If/when Bernier comes off of LTIR (assuming no other injuries), they'll have to create space to fit his $4.125M salary under the $82.5M salary cap or will have to waive him.

As I understand it, Johnsson will still have $2.275M count against the cap if/when he's buried in the minors as that only provides $1.125M in relief. With a healthy Bernier & Nico, Bahl in for Nemec and a healthy Thompson in the AHL, that would put the Devils $290K above the salary cap with a 24 man roster. So, any player they move would create enough room to fit under the salary cap.

You'd still think they wouldn't want to waive a forward to open up a slot. Perhaps they send Bahl down for a few games and carry 3 goalies or they just go straight to waiving Bernier, which would get them $834K below the cap.

oh johnsson, the gift that keeps on givi... ...er, shitting

 

[Oneiro]

Cringy Trouba fluff segment on ESPN, talking about hanging out with Gary V. and reading leadership books. Dude is done inside of three seasons.

 

[Guttersniped]

 

[Bone Density]

 

[SJinNewJersey]

I saw this posted on the Rags board. I don't want to be banned from HF boards, so I will say nothing.

 

[Satans Hockey]

Anyone check out these digital ads on ESPN? They move during the play. There's an enterprise car driving around. Players turn into pixels when they open the door and enter the bench. f***ing putrid and embarrassing.

I wonder if the companies that paid for a physical ad on the board are pissed about this or were charged less because they are getting way less tv ad time cause of this.

 

[MVP Zacha]

I am die hard Devils fan, but Mika Zibanejad is absolutely nasty.

 

[Guttersniped]

 

[njdevils1982]

ewwww la la sassoon!