Around the League - 2022-23 Season Edition

[HEAVY DUTY]

Biggest key to success in the playoffs is having a red hot goalie. Theyre the one single player that can win you an entire series.

Which is why I think we should trade Marner for Sarros

 

[saffronleaf]

freddy couldn't get the job done

 

[Eye Test]

3 of 4 GWG that is insane


Clutch his balls? Clutch his money? Cuz he ain’t ever going to be clutching up hockey games like tkachuk did this series

Matthews would be a god here if he performed like that.

Shocked fl swept car. Fire keefe!

 

[Clark4Ever]

Canes played soft perimeter hockey IMO. They just didnt go to the dirty areas same as the shit ass crap the Leafs played.

Canes won the corsi and xgf battle every game but lost the war.

VGK knows how to play dirty, and they play dirty. Won't be as easy for the panthers. Also, Cassidy doesn't give a flying F if his players are hacking/whacking; IMO he encourages that stuff too.

Panthers are going to be shocked when they play VGK IMO. Panther's have had an easy road when it comes to playoff dirty hockey. Bennet/Lombaerg/Gudas etc. have gotten away with a lot of dirty shit; VGK would pay them with interest

Agreed. I still give Florida a bit of an edge over Vegas though if Bobrovsky maintains his current form.

 

[Terrier]

Maple Leafs' latest display of futility is wildly entertaining

You would think that 56 years and counting of failure would have taught Toronto brass and fans something.

torontosun.com

 

[Dekes For Days]

I don't understand why physicality has been so shamed by some of our fanbase the past 5-7 years.

Physicality hasn't been shamed.
The overvaluing of physicality, especially the wrong kind of physicality, to the detriment or loss of other equally or more important player attributes has been shamed.
Inaccurate labels and descriptions of how the Leafs play, especially in the playoffs, has been shamed.
Claims of physicality doing things it does not do has been shamed.

And let's be clear - the type of "physicality" that some people here demand isn't actually physicality. It's goonery, and a lot of people correctly recognize that we would not be allowed to do a lot of the things that, for example, Florida is getting away with.

Nobody is against a good forecheck, crease clearing, and clean hits. That's why somebody like Schenn was valued by pretty much everybody.

 

[3blizzard4]

I don't understand why physicality has been so shamed by some of our fanbase the past 5-7 years.

Not everyone that asks for increased physicality is some knuckle dragging dinosaur or want's the team to become a goon squad.

To act like physicality, a heavy forecheck and having the opposing teams defenders know that if they go back and retrieve pucks they will have to brace for a hit has no value seems like a big oversight.

Go ask Morgan Rielly if he'd rather play a series against a heavy forechecking team that is consistently finishing their checks vs a team that he knows he'll be able to skate back, grab the puck and not ever really have to deal with getting crunched and he will take option 2 every single time.

That Bennett hit last night took Slavin right out of the game and it was a perfectly clean bodycheck. Can you imagine if that play happened in game 1 and they had to play a entire series either without him or where he was injured?

This stuff accumulates over a 7 game series and sometimes you don't see the true benefits until late in the series where you've worn the other defense down so much that they start making tons of mistakes under pressure or they've just had enough and just allow you to get to the puck first.

We need Skill and Speed as the basis of our team but I also think we need more balance in the consistency of physicality and forechecking presence.

Those fans drank the Dubas Kool Aid! Game is moving towards small skilled fast forwards. No need for bangers.

Even Dubes woke up albeit very late in his tenure. All those early years wasted with first round exits.

 

[LeafalCrusader]

Be nice if our 10 million dollar forwards had a run like Tkachuk and Bob had. They'd be legends in this city.

 

[Brobust]

If a Toronto coach said this, he'd get tarred and feathered.

 

[Mess]

I repeat Matthew Tkachuk is such a clutch and key playoff performer scored 3 of the 4 game winning goals in a sweep of Carolina in round #3.

What can you say about Florida's coach Paul Maurice other than "Never say Never". Now that is a real coach !!!!

As a wild card team and the lowest seed entering the playoffs he just coached his way to the Stanley Cup finals going through the #1OA record setting Bruins, the #2 OA Canes (in 4) the #4OA Leafs (in 5) and about face the top team from the West Vegas also tied for 4thOA in the regular standings .. That is the hardest possible 4 rounds opponents to play for the Stanley Cup.

Also proves how little regular season results mean come playoff time as all you need is a ticket to dance.

 

[Menzinger]

People absolutely gave Keefe way too much hate for his comments in the past - to an absolutely absurd degree. Many times coaches feel this way.

 

[weems]

Physicality hasn't been shamed.
The overvaluing of physicality, especially the wrong kind of physicality, to the detriment or loss of other equally or more important player attributes has been shamed.
Inaccurate labels and descriptions of how the Leafs play, especially in the playoffs, has been shamed.
Claims of physicality doing things it does not do has been shamed.

And let's be clear - the type of "physicality" that some people here demand isn't actually physicality. It's goonery, and a lot of people correctly recognize that we would not be allowed to do a lot of the things that, for example, Florida is getting away with.

Nobody is against a good forecheck, crease clearing, and clean hits. That's why somebody like Schenn was valued by pretty much everybody.

This is an absolutely laughable statement!

Valued by everyone?

Many people wanted nothing to do with the player going back months before the trade even happened.

After we aquired him, you heard tons of "He's nothing more than a 7th depth Dman" or "He should never play unless there's injuries".

Here's a article from a popular Leafs website that is titled "The worst possible players the Maple Leafs could trade for"

Luke Schenn was the very first name brought up and the writer said "because the Leafs already have 12 players who they would, or at least should, dress ahead of Schenn (Sandin, Liljegren, Brodie, Rielly, Holl, Giordano, Timmins, Mete, Benn, Dahlstrom, Hollowell, Kokonen)"

and "Today Luke Schenn is one of the worst players on one of the worst teams in hockey"

The Worst Possible Players the Toronto Maple Leafs Could Trade For

The Worst Possible Players the Toronto Maple Leafs Could Trade For at the trade deadline. The Leafs will most likely want to go

editorinleaf.com

This person wanted to actually play someone who's currently in the ECHL over Schenn.

 

[Jozay]

If a Toronto coach said this, he'd get tarred and feathered.

Yeah because its a loser thing to say

 

[Brobust]

Yeah because its a loser thing to say

You're right. I just think it's funny. It's kind of a throwaway comment from a coach trying to make sense how they lost to the shitty Panthers and people will forget he said it by tomorrow. But it would be a wild couple of weeks if Keefe said this.

 

[Mess]

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At the beginning of the playoffs I said both my Leafs with Samsonov and Boston with Ullmark due to playoff inexperience were vulnerable as good teams that are built for the goalie out.

I said watch out for Florida and goalie Bob, because he is a 2 X former Vezina trophy winner and Florida is a dark-horse team, because they were coming off a President's trophy season the year prior, and the offseason addition of powerforward Matthew Tkachuk makes the more playoff ready this year, and always been a big fan of Paul Maurice as a coach.

All they needed was Bobrovsky to get hot and return to his former Vezina form and Tkachuk built for the playoffs to lead them, and they would be a really tough out. IMO

So what has happened with the Panthers this year as the team representing the East is not really a surprise to me, only the way as quickly as they got there.

 

[leafs in five]

first they needed Knight to lose the starting job

 

[Dekes For Days]

Many people wanted nothing to do with the player going back months before the trade even happened.

Yes, there were people who didn't want to acquire Schenn, because we already had a stacked defense and he hasn't always played like he did for us, but pretty much everybody applauded what he was bringing to our team once he was here and performing well.

This person wanted to actually play someone who's currently in the ECHL over Schenn.

Yes, there are a lot of bad articles out there about all sorts of things.

 

[Dekes For Days]

At the beginning of the playoffs I said both my Leafs with Samsonov and Boston with Ullmark due to playoff inexperience were vulnerable as good teams that are built for the goalie out.
I said watch out for Florida and goalie Bob, because he is a 2 X former Vezina trophy winner and Florida is a dark-horse team, because they were coming off a President's trophy season the year prior, and the offseason addition of powerforward Matthew Tkachuk makes the more playoff ready this year, and always been a big fan of Paul Maurice as a coach.
All they needed was Bobrovsky to get hot and return to his former Vezina form and Tkachuk built for the playoffs to lead them, and they would be a really tough out. IMO
So what has happened with the Panthers this year as the team representing the East is not really a surprise to me, only the way as quickly as they got there.

Uh, what? Leading up to and at the beginning of the playoffs, you certainly dismissed Samsonov a lot due to playoff experience, but when Ullmark's inexperience was pointed out to you in multiple different discussions (that I can source if you'd like), you consistently ignored it and instead talked about how awesome and what a strength Boston's goaltending was. You also repeatedly talked about Boston being our 2nd round opponent if we got there, as if it was a foregone conclusion, so it's a bit hard to now buy the claim that you thought Boston would lose and Florida/Bobrovsky were going to do this.

 

[Mess]

If a Toronto coach said this, he'd get tarred and feathered.

Just look at that "respect in the handshake line" that Brindy got from Paul Maurice.

 

[Nineteen67]

If Keefe had said what Rod said in his post-game interview, people would roast him endlessly here.

if he said that and wasn’t true ,then yes, he’d get roasted.

 

[Azail]

At the beginning of the playoffs I said both my Leafs with Samsonov and Boston with Ullmark due to playoff inexperience were vulnerable as good teams that are built for the goalie out.

I said watch out for Florida and goalie Bob, because he is a 2 X former Vezina trophy winner and Florida is a dark-horse team, because they were coming off a President's trophy season the year prior, and the offseason addition of powerforward Matthew Tkachuk makes the more playoff ready this year, and always been a big fan of Paul Maurice as a coach.

All they needed was Bobrovsky to get hot and return to his former Vezina form and Tkachuk built for the playoffs to lead them, and they would be a really tough out. IMO

So what has happened with the Panthers this year as the team representing the East is not really a surprise to me, only the way as quickly as they got there.

Thank God Vegas has proven winner Adin Hill leading them. He's far more proven then Oettinger.

 

[tmlms13]

At the beginning of the playoffs I said both my Leafs with Samsonov and Boston with Ullmark due to playoff inexperience were vulnerable as good teams that are built for the goalie out.

I said watch out for Florida and goalie Bob, because he is a 2 X former Vezina trophy winner and Florida is a dark-horse team, because they were coming off a President's trophy season the year prior, and the offseason addition of powerforward Matthew Tkachuk makes the more playoff ready this year, and always been a big fan of Paul Maurice as a coach.

All they needed was Bobrovsky to get hot and return to his former Vezina form and Tkachuk built for the playoffs to lead them, and they would be a really tough out. IMO

So what has happened with the Panthers this year as the team representing the East is not really a surprise to me, only the way as quickly as they got there.

That's interesting because he was Florida's backup goalie for the last month of the regular season and start of the playoffs. I find it very hard to believe you said watch out for the backup goalie of the 8 seed, so I'd like to see some proof.

If you really did, you should have put some money on him to win the conn smythe at the start of the playoffs, you'd probably have gotten insane odds.

 

[fahad203]

Jack Eichel could be a Stanly Cup winner.

He's going to show the middle finger to McDavid and Matthews isn't he?

I remember we used to make fun of him in Buffalo.

 

[saffronleaf]

Just look at that "respect in the handshake line" that Brindy got from Paul Maurice.

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did paul maurice coach brindamour when maurice was previously coaching the canes?

 

[saffronleaf]

Jack Eichel could be a Stanly Cup winner.

He's going to show the middle finger to McDavid and Matthews isn't he?

I remember we used to make fun of him in Buffalo.

not just that but he's a legit conn smythe candidate as well. great run for eichel.