Around the League - 2022-23 Season Edition

[1specter]

Oilers have given up 4+ goals in 4 straight and 5 of their last 6.

Going to be hard to win if they have to score 5 goals a game to win.

They are a very flawed team. Bottom 5-10 in many defensive metrics and even their stars/top producers give up a lot defensively to produce offense. Hyman has the worst xGA/60 on the team despite his gaudy point totals and Kane, McDavid, Drai and our old friend Tyson Barrie are all right there with him. They cheat defense to score as much as they do and eventually that will catch up with them, especially when their goaltending is also shoddy (Skinner seems decent but Jack is pretty terrible right now).

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Pretty disgusting. As a kid (age 8-9), I witnessed disgusting things similar in the 60's. We didn't live in a "nice" area and our schools were overcrowded, and there was "accommodation" made for intellectually disabled but well, you would think 50 years later everyone would have evolved (been educated) , but that isn't the case. As society is no different, there still are those people.

Today with social media, I tend to question everything.

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You cannot condone this behaviour.

Weigh the evidence.

The insurmountable evidence that is against him and his agent about the lying and gas lighting is way too much for him to even possibly defend. Just go over the bruins boards, and you'll see so much more evidence, stories and so on so forth.

I miss his KFC bucket gifs.

Surprise surprise, our resident scumbag Steve Simmons snuck this little tidbit in a recent article



Innocuous enough not to stir up more controversy for him, but he made it clear which side he’s on in the Miller debate

I have so much vitriol against that man... he really is a clown

Gee wally mentioned it over there but it was too much that even Willi O'Ree got involved.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Also didnt watch the oilers caps game was it that much of a fiesta?

also i cant help but smile if this is true lmao;

 

[notDatsyuk]

Cizikas slew foots Markstrom at the end of ergaultion (who was playing the puck behind the net)

No penalty and no Flames players even went after Cizikas

It didn't look deliberate to me, but should have been called.

The penalty in OT was legit.

Just before the midpoint Flames were outshooting Isles 25-6.

Barzal now tied for third with 14 assists, but no goals. Only four other players have more than 7 without a goal (8, 9, 10, and 10), and they are all defencemen.

 

[Gabriel426]

Oilers have given up 4+ goals in 4 straight and 5 of their last 6.

Going to be hard to win if they have to score 5 goals a game to win.

They did do that with #99, so I guess they thought they can do that with #97 too.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

McDavid with 13g already, damn!

 

[andora]

McDavid with 13g already, damn!

What is amazing is finally he is working those 'f*** it i will do it myself' moments more.. which as the best player you should

 

[SprDaVE]

Oilers have given up 4+ goals in 4 straight and 5 of their last 6.

Going to be hard to win if they have to score 5 goals a game to win.

If only they were more physical, they'd be better defensively. I'm sure Spector is writing the article right now.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Saw McDavid's #s and went WOW, then saw the epic disaster Jack Campbell's been and went WOW.

 

[leafsfan5]

McDavid is 2PPG and the Oilers are barely over .500

Pathetic

 

[ULF_55]

McDavid is 2PPG and the Oilers are barely over .500

Pathetic

Goaltending.

Campbell one of the worst in the league so far.

 

[leafsfan5]

Goaltending.

Campbell one of the worst in the league so far.

Their defensive core also sucks

They're running a top 4 of Nurse, Ceci, Kulak and Bouchard. That's not stopping most offenses around the league. Combine that with abysmal defensive play from some of their top forwards and you have a team that can't even go on a run when the best player in the world is 2 PPG

 

[1specter]

Goaltending.

Campbell one of the worst in the league so far.

The goaltending is a product of their terrible defense. Skinner has actually played pretty well, but the Oilers give out grade A chances like candy. They're the true definition of a run and gun team.

 

[stickty111]

Goaltending.

Campbell one of the worst in the league so far.

Bad defence too. Combine both and you have problems.

 

[Zybalto]

Goaltending.

Campbell one of the worst in the league so far.

Also doesn't help their high scoring stars have abysmal defensive numbers this season.

After a legit improvement last season, really not contributing at both ends this year.

For example, last year McDavid had a 57% 5v5 shot differential and teams averaged less than 30 shots/60 with him on the ice. 59% goal differential overall.

This season McDavid has a 50% on ice shot differential and teams are averaging 38.45 shots/60 with him on the ice. 54% goal differential overall.

Goalies have been rough but are the team leaders helping out?

 

[Zybalto]

It didn't look deliberate to me, but should have been called.

The penalty in OT was legit.

Just before the midpoint Flames were outshooting Isles 25-6.

Barzal now tied for third with 14 assists, but no goals. Only four other players have more than 7 without a goal (8, 9, 10, and 10), and they are all defencemen.

Kinda expect more out of Barzal figuring he gets 95%+ 5v5 ozone starts (which leads the NHL).

 

[notDatsyuk]

Kinda expect more out of Barzal figuring he gets 95%+ 5v5 ozone starts (which leads the NHL).

Only two player have more assists, but yeah, that's odd. Matthews only had one goal (a slight tip) in his first seven, so it happens.

 

[PromisedLand]

I miss his KFC bucket gifs.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

The goaltending is a product of their terrible defense. Skinner has actually played pretty well, but the Oilers give out grade A chances like candy. They're the true definition of a run and gun team.

Believe it or not, Toronto is 10th worst in HDCA/60 while Edmonton is 24th worst.

Toronto is 26th worst in HDCA sv% while Edmonton is 16th worst.

Maybe goaltending is a bigger issue than defence.

Kinda expect more out of Barzal figuring he gets 95%+ 5v5 ozone starts (which leads the NHL).

That's insane. They just straight up won't dare start him anywhere else lol.

 

[ULF_55]

Bad defence too. Combine both and you have problems.

Yeah, if you've seen some of the goals Campbell has given up it wouldn't matter if Lidstrom was on their 2nd. pairing. Last one I saw he looked at his glove to see if there was a hole in it. Brutal.

 

[1specter]

Believe it or not, Toronto is 10th worst in HDCA/60 while Edmonton is 24th worst.

Toronto is 26th worst in HDCA sv% while Edmonton is 16th worst.

Maybe goaltending is a bigger issue than defence.



That's insane. They just straight up won't dare start him anywhere else lol.

Eh, I'm a little weary of using HDCA this early in the season. In general the 'scoring chance' stats tend to be a bit sketchier due to the more subjective way of how they're recorded and the inconsistencies, and HDCA in particular is an even smaller and more subjective sample especially early on in the year, there's too much noise in that stat right now IMO. If we stick to just regular scoring chances, Leafs rank 12th best in SCA/60 and and Oilers 18th.

IMO CA/60 and xGA together are more reliable as they're built off a large pool of data and xGA uses shot location to adjust for quality (also not a fool proof system but less noise here IMO), and in both of those Edmonton ranks very poorly. Same with your classic 'shots against' metric in which Toronto is 7th best and Edmonton 24th.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Eh, I'm a little weary of using HDCA this early in the season. In general the 'scoring chance' stats tend to be a bit sketchier due to the more subjective way of how they're recorded and the inconsistencies, and HDCA in particular is an even smaller and more subjective sample especially early on in the year, there's too much noise in that stat right now IMO. If we stick to just regular scoring chances, Leafs rank 12th best in SCA/60 and and Oilers 18th.

IMO CA/60 and xGA together are more reliable as they're built off a large pool of data and xGA uses shot location to adjust for quality (also not a fool proof system but less noise here IMO), and in both of those Edmonton ranks very poorly. Same with your classic 'shots against' metric in which Toronto is 7th best and Edmonton 24th.

Isn't xGA just scoring chance stats with weights attached to them?

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

McDavid with 13g already, damn!

Historically always very streaky. Had 9 in his first 11 last year as well.

 

[1specter]

Isn't xGA just scoring chance stats with weights attached to them?

No, it uses shots data and does a weight adjustment based on shot location. Again not perfect but IMO it's a larger and more consistent pool of data to work with.

 

[andora]

No, it uses shots data and does a weight adjustment based on shot location. Again not perfect but IMO it's a larger and more consistent pool of data to work with.

would a high danger shot be from the same area of the ice of the type of shot/weight going into xga?