Around the League - 2022-23 Season Edition

[TheTotalPackage]

Jesus Christ...the drop-off of the Bruins I was expecting for like the last four or five years now was completely overexaggerated and is making me look foolish. Sign Pastrnak long-term when a lot of people thought they couldn't afford it and/or he wanted to test the market. And as much as I absolutely loathe Bertuzzi as a person and player, his brand of style seems perfect for Boston and that he'll absolutely flourish there.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Jesus Christ...the drop-off of the Bruins I was expecting for like the last four or five years now was completely overexaggerated and is making me look foolish. Sign Pastrnak long-term when a lot of people thought they couldn't afford it and/or he wanted to test the market. And as much as I absolutely loathe Bertuzzi as a person and player, his brand of style seems perfect for Boston and that he'll absolutely flourish there.

They are going to be cash strapped next year though. 10 mill in cap space without the bonus overages, which is another 4.5 mill.

They'd need to bring back Bergeron and Krejci. Plus rebuild pretty much their entire bottom 6, re-sign Swayman and Frederic, and bring in depth without too many clear cut NHL caliber prospects in their system.

They may cut bait on some of their defensemen... Carlo is rumoured. They will likely pay to dump Reilly. Maybe will even look to cut money on Grzelcyk or Forbort. Or DeBrusk up front.

It is a lot of turnover and finding bargains.

 

[justashadowof]

The timing of the Pastrnak extension suggests that even the 1st overall Bruins were willing to deal him if he wouldn't re-up.

 

[Arzak]

11.25x8 for Pasta.

What happened to him saying that he would play hockey for free

Will be interesting to see how the Bruins shape up once Bergeron finally calls it quits.

It never happened?

UFA - 11.25 x8

is as close to playing for free as it gets for a player like Pasta. I've read multiple articles speculating he'll be the highest-paid player in the league.

Do we really need to pull out our contracts I'm trying to forget to assess this...?



Let me set a scene for you, another UFA player. Never won a major award, taking a significant discount to come home. Its 2018 cap is 75M, the player is 28 years old.

It's 2023 and they did not sign Tavares.


That contract looks good now compared to our current contracts signed 5-6 years ago. It will look ridiculous when/if we resign Marner, Nylander and Matthews.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

And as much as I absolutely loathe Bertuzzi as a person

OT - What's wrong with Bertuzzi as a person?

Never heard anything about attitude issues etc.

 

[ACC1224]

The timing of the Pastrnak extension suggests that even the 1st overall Bruins were willing to deal him if he wouldn't re-up.

That's some reach there.

 

[Gabriel426]

Pastrnak with 11.25mil. Thought Bruins will get him cheaper but that’s a good number. Not too expensive but not cheap by any means.

Them getting Bertuzzi is typical Bruins. But still didn’t change much as they are still the team to beat in the East.

 

[ULF_55]

For Capologists:

By placing Hall on LTIR until the playoffs, does that enable the Bruins to include the bonus overages for 2022-2023 on the existing Cap?

 

[TheTotalPackage]

OT - What's wrong with Bertuzzi as a person?

Never heard anything about attitude issues etc.

He looks and comes across as a dink on and off the ice. Personal preference. There are just some players I absolutely despise no matter what. Like Bertuzzi and Max Domi.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

He looks and comes across as a dink on and off the ice.

Odd reason to "absolutely loathe" someone. But to each their own.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

Odd reason to "absolutely loathe" someone. But to each their own.

Yes, odd. And yes, still a personal preference.

 

[Arzak]

For Capologists:

By placing Hall on LTIR until the playoffs, does that enable the Bruins to include the bonus overages for 2022-2023 on the existing Cap?

Nice catch. That would give them an extra 5.5M in cap space. Pulling Kucherov with Hall.

If they resign Bergeron Krejci, they can kick the rebuild can once more.

 

[cyris]

For Capologists:

By placing Hall on LTIR until the playoffs, does that enable the Bruins to include the bonus overages for 2022-2023 on the existing Cap?

No. The opposite actually. Being in LTIR insures that all bonus overages will count against the cap the following year.

If the Bruins has any remaining cap space at the end of the season the bonuses would count towards that before any remaining money went as a penalty the following year. As they will now finish the season over the cap all bonuses carry over.

 

[ULF_55]

No. The opposite actually. Being in LTIR insures that all bonus overages will count against the cap the following year.

If the Bruins has any remaining cap space at the end of the season the bonuses would count towards that before any remaining money went as a penalty the following year. As they will now finish the season over the cap all bonuses carry over.

So they might as well spend the $6mm on players now.

 

[kb]

For Capologists:

By placing Hall on LTIR until the playoffs, does that enable the Bruins to include the bonus overages for 2022-2023 on the existing Cap?

Nope.

So they might as well spend the $6mm on players now.

Correct. But they only have $2.8 million of LTIR room.

 

[ULF_55]

Nope.

Correct

Then I'd say they aren't done.

But what the heck would you change on a team that appears to be 1970's Canadiens reborn?

Wonder what the Leafs could get from the Rangers for a retained Nylander?

 

[cyris]

So they might as well spend the $6mm on players now.

Yep pretty much. So good chance they aren’t done.

 

[kb]

Then I'd say they aren't done.

But what the heck would you change on a team that appears to be 1970's Canadiens reborn?

They only have $2.8 million in LTIR room. They also don't have many assets left to deal.

 

[ULF_55]

They only have $2.8 million in LTIR room. They also don't have many assets left to deal.

They'd have the 2.8+outgoing.

Correct?

 

[kb]

They'd have the 2.8+outgoing.

Correct?

Correct. But if you are Boston....how much do you dare mess with the current lineup? Moves to a team already dominant could just as easily backfire.

 

[cyris]

They only have $2.8 million in LTIR room. They also don't have many assets left to deal.

2.8 is enough to bring in an 11m player with double retention + you have to count the salary of the roster player that goes out in any deal.
They still could trade their 2025 first and like us they haven’t touched their top prospects.

I don’t think they will or need to make any moves like that but if they decided to they definitely could.

Correct. But if you are Boston....how much do you dare mess with the current lineup? Moves to a team already dominant could just as easily backfire.

Yeah they are so good at this point why mess with the team chemistry. It’s not like there are any holes in that roster right now.

 

[ULF_55]

2.8 is enough to bring in an 11m player with double retention + you have to count the salary of the roster player that goes out in any deal.
They still could trade their 2025 first and like us they haven’t touched their top prospects.

I don’t think they will or need to make any moves like that but if they decided to they definitely could.


Yeah they are so good at this point why mess with the team chemistry. It’s not like there are any holes in that roster right now.

Well, Hall is missing ... even if just a rental until the playoffs when Hall comes back.

 

[LeafGrief]

I am desperate for a Leafs-Bruins 2nd round. It would be a series for the ages, as the favourite Bruins fight off the Leafs looking for vengence and their own shot at glory. B's did extremely well to add Orlov and Bertuzzi, those guys will fit right in and give an already disgustingly elite team more punch.

I'd love to watch that series, but if the Leafs lose in round 1 again I'll probably do what I've been doing the last six years and that's get super emo and not watch any hockey until the finals.

 

[Arzak]

They are going to be cash strapped next year though. 10 mill in cap space without the bonus overages, which is another 4.5 mill.

They'd need to bring back Bergeron and Krejci. Plus rebuild pretty much their entire bottom 6, re-sign Swayman and Frederic, and bring in depth without too many clear cut NHL caliber prospects in their system.

They may cut bait on some of their defensemen... Carlo is rumoured. They will likely pay to dump Reilly. Maybe will even look to cut money on Grzelcyk or Forbort. Or DeBrusk up front.

It is a lot of turnover and finding bargains.

If they resign Bergeron and Krejci they got virtually the same team.10 mill in cap space to replace what exactly? Trent is RFA* and was on 1.5M contract, they can afford him at 2M, the rest is signed.
You are effectively replacing 4th line. They have too many Ds to play them all. Already had one of the best D corps prior to Orlov's signing.

Marchand Bergeron Debrusk
Zacha Krejci Pasta
Hall Coyle *Trent

They will need to replace 3.8M Foligno on the 4th line. I wonder if non-Kyle-Dubas GM can pull this off.

I'll bet they will find a better 4th line C or get Foligno on the 4th line @ 1M.


Are some adjustments/manoeuvring needed? For sure.
But a lot of turnovers/finding bargains and cash strapped? I don't see it.

 

[kb]

2.8 is enough to bring in an 11m player with double retention + you have to count the salary of the roster player that goes out in any deal.
They still could trade their 2025 first and like us they haven’t touched their top prospects.

I don’t think they will or need to make any moves like that but if they decided to they definitely could.


Yeah they are so good at this point why mess with the team chemistry. It’s not like there are any holes in that roster right now.

Agreed, but Boston will be in a rebuild/retool stage after this season due to the cap overage carryforward, and if they have 3 years with no picks - that retool becomes extra hard.

Plus their prospect pool is rather meh. Someone would need to see something in one to really pull the trigger.

It's a dangerous game messing with team chemistry when your team is on a historical pace for most of the season.

If they resign Bergeron and Krejci they got virtually the same team.10 mill in cap space to replace what exactly? Trent is RFA* and was on 1.5M contract, they can afford him at 2M, the rest is signed.
You are effectively replacing 4th line. They have too many Ds to play them all. Already had one of the best D corps prior to Orlov's signing.

Marchand Bergeron Debrusk
Zacha Krejci Pasta
Hall Coyle *Trent

They will need to replace 3.8M Foligno on the 4th line. I wonder if non-Kyle-Dubas GM can pull this off.

I'll bet they will find a better 4th line C or get Foligno on the 4th line @ 1M.


Are some adjustments/manoeuvring needed? For sure.
But a lot of turnovers/finding bargains and cash strapped? I don't see it.

You are not factoring in the overages from the performance bonuses. How can they do that all with $5.5 million in cap space once the $4.5 million bonus overages for Bergeron and Krejci are factored in?