GDT: Around the League - 2021/22 - Playoffs edition

[stickty111]

Rnd 1:

TOR 5v4 3/27, 1shga --- 5v3 1/2
TBL 5v4 5/33, 2shga --- 5v3 2/4

Appreciation post for Zeke. You get a lot of undeserved criticism because you seem to understand things better than others, but a lot of the time you are right and it's the same thing here.
When people resort to name calling like "kyle", they already lost the argument anyways.

 

[Gabriel426]

Appreciation post for Zeke. You get a lot of undeserved criticism because you seem to understand things better than others, but a lot of the time you are right and it's the same thing here.
When people resort to name calling like "kyle", they already lost the argument anyways.

I think we all know Leafs is a better team than most in the playoffs but the fact that they still couldn’t do it in the first round might means the team is not good enough to win the Cup yet. It seems like some think as long as Leafs win a round or two, they are no longer underachieving….or the players didn’t choke or whatever. Simply fact is that this team is not a Championship caliber team despite being one of the most talented team in the league.
Who cares if Leafs were TB(if they win) best opponents in this playoffs, who cares if Leafs didn’t face the Kings or teams either had their first goalie struggled or against 2nd or 3rd string goalies…..The fact is Leafs couldn’t win the Cup the past 6 seasons. Some here pride the Leafs for being a contender with the back to back Rocket Winner or First team All Star…but how did they played in the playoffs, did they even come close to guys like McD, Mack or even Drai? Some like to used injuries as an excuse, if only Muz didn’t get injured against BJs or JT with the Habs, Point been injured since the first round, that didn’t seem to bother TB, Girard been injured since 2nd round, that didn’t seem to bother Avs. Leafs faced the worst team that qualified for the playoffs last season, a team that they just dominated throughout the season while our top guys had the record of feasting their goalie and yet our top two guys combined for ONE goal in the whole series.
Since the goal is to win the Cup, I really don’t think anybody should feel safe on the Leafs, from Dubas to the Zamboni driver.
Put it this way, you trying to cook a great steak but you keep failing with the same stove top, same meat from the same store, same oil, same degrees of temp, same spice….you might first start by tinkering the amount of spice or time or temp…and if that’s still doesn’t work, you are going to start looking into stuff like is it the meat or the way you prepare or cook….Then you realize you have been using salmon as meat instead of steak. Salmon is great and taste amazing but if you want to make steak, you need to get steak.
That’s pretty much where we are at the moment.

 

[ULF_55]

Appreciation post for Zeke. You get a lot of undeserved criticism because you seem to understand things better than others, but a lot of the time you are right and it's the same thing here.
When people resort to name calling like "kyle", they already lost the argument anyways.

Everyone gets criticism here, and the more you post odds are you'll get more.

Most people appreciate any additional analysis that can be provided, but really when it comes down to game results using stats to suggest you were the better team but you lost isn't going to be embraced by everyone.

Most goals win, and no matter what other stats you want to throw at it you were the loser if you scored less.

I encourage Zeke to keep providing those stats.

There are two groups, one that says my team won the Cup, and everyone else.

 

[Nineteen67]

The stat that they all get measured on is wins. Since Dubas has taken over the GM role, the Leafs average 3 playoff wins, and 2 play in wins per season, for a post season average of 2.96 wins per year.

Why is that the case? It‘s quite simple, actually. The stats suggest they are close, but they continue to make stupid decisions and poor plays at inopportune times, and they didn’t have full commitment from everyone on the roster.

 

[stealth1]

The stat that they all get measured on is wins. Since Dubas has taken over the GM role, the Leafs average 3 playoff wins, and 2 play in wins per season, for a post season average of 2.96 wins per year.

Why is that the case? It‘s quite simple, actually. The stats suggest they are close, but they continue to make stupid decisions and poor plays at inopportune times, and they didn’t have full commitment from everyone on the roster.

I will add the one thing they don't have is the killer instinct. Every series they have lost recently they have had the lead. Analytics will never show you data for that.

 

[fahad203]

Appreciation post for Zeke. You get a lot of undeserved criticism because you seem to understand things better than others, but a lot of the time you are right and it's the same thing here.
When people resort to name calling like "kyle", they already lost the argument anyways.

Without a doubt. I bud head with Zeke all the time but that doesn't mean I dont' appreciate his viewpoint. However, different they are from mine. I bet we will continue to do so. I like his point of view of the game just don't agree with them

I am not a numbers guy. I found that out early when I was one of 4 South Asians kids in my high school who failed math. So numbers are definitely foreign to me and interesting

I agree, no need for name calling or labelling of any kind.

 

[BertCorbeau]

This is what the Leafs need to adapt to, especially on the PP

 

[Nylanderthal]

Hopefully not the Pittsburgh series where they got badly outplayed but faced Spicy Pork & Broccoli in net, who gifted them the series

They played a starting goalie in one game (jarry’s first game back from injury in game 7 round 1) in the first two rounds and needed home ice in game 7 both times. I mean, good for them and better results than the leafs have had, but I don’t see it as some tremendous success.
That metro bracket really fell apart in the end compared to how it looked for much of the year.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

This is what the Leafs need to adapt to, especially on the PP

You are going to need to get another guy to pair with Tavares in front of the net then... Unless Nylander and Marner decide they want to do that more often.

Although puck moving speed plays a big part in all of that too. Tampa and Colorado move the puck around fast. Our guys bobble and take forever to make decisions (at least when things are not working).

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[keonsbitterness]

I think he fits here nicely. We have enough writers here that only back up their opinions with fumes of anger and hot air mixed with fair amount of contextless agenda. Sprinkled with funny names and words like fire, burn, punish etc.

zeke at least has his analytics. Like it or not, it gives some context here. This year eye test and those numbers were pretty close, even though it doesn't matter in the end.

It was (mostly) a joke. I wasn't actually telling him to leave.

I dunno - which of us has the emotional mob opinion behind them?

You're part of the ref-conspiracy emotional mob. People in glass houses......

Wtf is a wrong with people...

Idiots who shouldn't go to live sports events. Very sad.

He was charged for that sucker punch

Good! Dude should do time for that.

Also, mentioned that a number of Bruin players were likely "celebrating" when Cassidy got fired.

And the people rejoiced as another tyrant bit the dust!

I know the Jet have had referees attend camps and give pointers to the players.

Leafs should do the same.

I think the officials do that league-wide, especially after changes in rules or points of emphasis.

 

[zeke]

It was (mostly) a joke. I wasn't actually telling him to leave.

You're part of the ref-conspiracy emotional mob. People in glass houses......

Idiots who shouldn't go to live sports events. Very sad.

Good! Dude should do time for that.

And the people rejoiced as another tyrant bit the dust!

I think the officials do that league-wide, especially after changes in rules or points of emphasis.

There's no need for any conspiracy for a team to get hosed by the refs.

 

[keonsbitterness]

There's no need for any conspiracy for a team to get hosed by the refs.

Your honour, I rest my airtight, internationally copyrighted case.

 

[Gallagbi]

This is what the Leafs need to adapt to, especially on the PP

We have decent high screens on the PP with Tavares. We don't go cross seem enough IMO though

 

[stickty111]

Looks like Trotz and Torts are the finalists for the Flyers job with Torts the favorite

 

[BertCorbeau]

Looks like Trotz and Torts are the finalists for the Flyers job with Torts the favorite

One of these is not like the other

 

[PromisedLand]

I will add the one thing they don't have is the killer instinct. Every series they have lost recently they have had the lead. Analytics will never show you data for that.

this team like their moron gm drink their own koolaid quite often. don't believe me? just check out the exit interviews of dubas/shanahan/keefe.

nothing pissed me off more than these three stooges on that day. an absolute JOKE of a franchise still has these asshats employed.

This is what the Leafs need to adapt to, especially on the PP

are we also getting Hedman shot on the point, kucherov shot on the right wall and stamkos one timer on the left wall?

 

[PromisedLand]

One of these is not like the other

but both have the cup

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Kakko scratched? Interesting.

 

[garce]

Jesus does Trouba just get to hit anyone how ever he chooses?

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Shesterkin has been good, but that's a tough one

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Shesterkin has been good, but that's a tough one

The type of goal that our Leafs can never score, but have happen too often against us. Can’t recall the last stinker a goalie allowed for us in the playoffs.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Rangers are toast.

Tampa will likely win the Cup due to their massive advantage in goal compared to COL. They won’t be shooting on Mike Smith anymore lol.

 

[garce]

The type of goal that our Leafs can never score, but have happen too often against us. Can’t recall the last stinker a goalie allowed for us in the playoffs.

That’s a classic Freddie A

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

The type of goal that our Leafs can never score, but have happen too often against us. Can’t recall the last stinker a goalie allowed for us in the playoffs.

I'd argue the first Tavares goal in game 6 wasn't great, but not as bad as this Stamkos goal

Tampa has absolutely dominated and probably should've scored on a few other chances, so they were due