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Around the League 2018-2019 Part 3

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Kingsfan1 said:
Am I the only one that thinks Carter will be fine and back to normal next year and he shouldn’t be dealt ? His contract is cheap and cap friendly regardless . He can be a great bottom 6 center for us throughout the duration of the contract . He makes us deeper . Kids nowadays are making the NHL by 21 and need top 6 time to develop and perform . Let the kids transition into top 6 roles and if Carter is remotely close back to his normal self we’ll be better for it . The players that need to be moved most are Quick , Martinez , Lewis and Clifford because kids can bring what they do and make us faster and younger .

Lewis should have been moved at the draft. Also watch out for Moverare one thing Blake does differently from Lombardi that I like is let the kids develop overseas and I believe Moverare is going to be a solid bottom pairing dman for us .
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Most of the Euro prospects have contracts for their Euro teams, not necessarily Blake allowing them to develop over there. Also the Same scouting staff and Futa are picking more Euro players than when under Lombardi. That could just be SWE/Finland are producing really good prospects lately.
 
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Most of the Euro prospects have contracts for their Euro teams, not necessarily Blake allowing them to develop over there. Also the Same scouting staff and Futa are picking more Euro players than when under Lombardi. That could just be SWE/Finland are producing really good prospects lately.
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I think it is also how the game has changed from big and physical to a fast game which tends to lend itself to the European game
 
damacles1156 said:
Most of the Euro prospects have contracts for their Euro teams, not necessarily Blake allowing them to develop over there. Also the Same scouting staff and Futa are picking more Euro players than when under Lombardi. That could just be SWE/Finland are producing really good prospects lately.
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No I agree definitely lately Finland and Sweden have been producing more stars however Dean always would advocate that the sooner they get them over the better . I disagree with that logic . Every GM has a different philosophy when drafting hence why most of the players Dean started drafting after 2010 didn’t amount to anything . He altered his philosophy a little . But with Blake he’s focused on skill and speed and believes and has mentioned if I’m not mistaken that it’s better to let them develop overseas . Prime example is Moverare who I think has great potential . He was sent back over to Sweden and developed better in 1 year there than he did in North America for 2 years . Moverare will be a gamer I’m high on him in regards of being a successful NHLer.

If you look at other teams drafts and players they let develop overseas during Lombardi’s tenure as our GM the players have had more success at the NHL level than the ones who came here and developed .

I’m very happy and pleased with Blake’s drafts . They have done a tremendous job and we haven’t had a deep prospect pool like this in a long time . We have had great prospects don’t get me wrong before but not of this quality of players we currently have in the system . There are blue chips there are B level prospects and we have some sleepers . The future is more bright for sure . In next 2 years we are going to have a fun time watching Kings hockey
 
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LOL!!

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Wow, that's a total win for the Oilers. Good move by Holland. What was Treliving thinking? Prior to whatever happned last year, Neal was averaging about 25 goals a year going back like 8 years or more. He has skill at least. And it gives RNH a decent winger on the 2nd line. Lucic is an albatross
Both have 4 yr s left on their contracts at about 6M.
 
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Rangers could open up 5 mil in cap space for this season by buying the remaining two years of Shattenkirk's contract. But according to CapFriendly's buyout calculator, Shattenkirk would eat up 6 mil in dead space for 2020-21 which isn't ideal either.

I know he doesn't mesh with the Kings youth movement, but would there be any fit with LA and a retained Shattenkirk? He probably wouldn't be blocking anybody and Shattenkirk could be a tradeable asset again in the last year of his deal. Shattenkirk's deal was slightly frontloaded and he's due 10.6 mil over the next two years.

If the Rangers ate 25%, the Kings would end up with a ~5 mil cap hit and the remaining 8 mil in real cash over two seasons. Rangers free up space to sign their RFAs and they open up a spot for Adam Fox.
 
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Brodeur said:
Rangers could open up 5 mil in cap space for this season by buying the remaining two years of Shattenkirk's contract. But according to CapFriendly's buyout calculator, Shattenkirk would eat up 6 mil in dead space for 2020-21 which isn't ideal either.

I know he doesn't mesh with the Kings youth movement, but would there be any fit with LA and a retained Shattenkirk? He probably wouldn't be blocking anybody and Shattenkirk could be a tradeable asset again in the last year of his deal. Shattenkirk's deal was slightly frontloaded and he's due 10.6 mil over the next two years.

If the Rangers ate 25%, the Kings would end up with a ~5 mil cap hit and the remaining 8 mil in real cash over two seasons. Rangers free up space to sign their RFAs and they open up a spot for Adam Fox.
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Would work for me, as he'd be in the right role here likely regain some value and be a good flip
 
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Brodeur said:
Rangers could open up 5 mil in cap space for this season by buying the remaining two years of Shattenkirk's contract. But according to CapFriendly's buyout calculator, Shattenkirk would eat up 6 mil in dead space for 2020-21 which isn't ideal either.

I know he doesn't mesh with the Kings youth movement, but would there be any fit with LA and a retained Shattenkirk? He probably wouldn't be blocking anybody and Shattenkirk could be a tradeable asset again in the last year of his deal. Shattenkirk's deal was slightly frontloaded and he's due 10.6 mil over the next two years.

If the Rangers ate 25%, the Kings would end up with a ~5 mil cap hit and the remaining 8 mil in real cash over two seasons. Rangers free up space to sign their RFAs and they open up a spot for Adam Fox.
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He shoots right handed. As does LaDue, Roy, Walker and Doughty.

I think the only way the Kings would take him is if the Rangers were giving up an asset to sweeten the deal, but I'm not really sure if that's something NYR would be willing to do. I'm not sure his value is that low.
 
Brodeur said:
Rangers could open up 5 mil in cap space for this season by buying the remaining two years of Shattenkirk's contract. But according to CapFriendly's buyout calculator, Shattenkirk would eat up 6 mil in dead space for 2020-21 which isn't ideal either.

I know he doesn't mesh with the Kings youth movement, but would there be any fit with LA and a retained Shattenkirk? He probably wouldn't be blocking anybody and Shattenkirk could be a tradeable asset again in the last year of his deal. Shattenkirk's deal was slightly frontloaded and he's due 10.6 mil over the next two years.

If the Rangers ate 25%, the Kings would end up with a ~5 mil cap hit and the remaining 8 mil in real cash over two seasons. Rangers free up space to sign their RFAs and they open up a spot for Adam Fox.
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I think they've been trying to move Shattenkirk but couldn't find the right partner. They might have to package him with a younger forward or top prospect . Move Smith or buy him out?

Maybe they should consider buying out Staal. I've always been a fan of his game but the last few years, injuries have taken a toll.

Gordon and JD will be busy on the phones.
 
johnjm22 said:
He shoots right handed. As does LaDue, Roy, Walker and Doughty.

I think the only way the Kings would take him is if the Rangers were giving up an asset to sweeten the deal, but I'm not really sure if that's something NYR would be willing to do. I'm not sure his value is that low.
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I'd be okay with Shattenkirk in there with one of Roy/Walker fighting it out for a roster spot. But after looking at the Kings cap situation, there's about 8 mil in space with Kempe to sign. So adding Shattenkirk at 5 might not be a great fit either.
 
deeshamrock said:
I think they've been trying to move Shattenkirk but couldn't find the right partner. They might have to package him with a younger forward or top prospect . Move Smith or buy him out?

Maybe they should consider buying out Staal. I've always been a fan of his game but the last few years, injuries have taken a toll.
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Smith buyout might be the easiest route, although he would eat up 3.145 in dead cap for 2020-21. They wouldn't have any big RFAs due huge raises next summer and Kreider would be the only UFA probably worth retaining. They'd free up an additional 9 mil if they let go of Namestnikov/Fast and didn't qualify Strome.
 
Master Yoda said:
I think those 3 guys will get $6M+. Moving Kreider might not be enough since you'd need a replacement for him as well.
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Panarin will take his spot on the 1st line. They have Namestnikov, Lemiex , and Vesey. And they might have a kid from the farm system that impresses in camp.

And if not now, they'd have to move him by Feb, I don't think they'll be resigning him, given what he'd be asking.
 
The Kings haven't shown they're not about adding money anymore? Whether or not a move is right, like Marleau would've been, they don't seem interested in spending more money. Going to waste time and money to get Shattenkirk so you can trade him at the 2021 deadline? Hagelin was one thing, that was just a couple months. Shattenkirk would be for a year and a half. Better to just see what you have with LaDue, Walker, and Roy at this point. All much cheaper, which is where the Kings are now.
 
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KingsFan7824 said:
The Kings haven't shown they're not about adding money anymore? Whether or not a move is right, like Marleau would've been, they don't seem interested in spending more money. Going to waste time and money to get Shattenkirk so you can trade him at the 2021 deadline? Hagelin was one thing, that was just a couple months. Shattenkirk would be for a year and a half. Better to just see what you have with LaDue, Walker, and Roy at this point. All much cheaper, which is where the Kings are now.
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If you look at actual salary expenditures (not cap hits), the Kings will be bottom 10 this year in spending after everybody's RFA's are signed.

Maybe uncle Phil has told them if they're going to rebuild he doesn't want to spend a bunch. I can't really blame him considering he spent a ton on player salaries since 2015 (Kings had the highest payroll in the league a few years ago), and they haven't won a damn thing.
 
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Brodeur said:
Rangers could open up 5 mil in cap space for this season by buying the remaining two years of Shattenkirk's contract. But according to CapFriendly's buyout calculator, Shattenkirk would eat up 6 mil in dead space for 2020-21 which isn't ideal either.

I know he doesn't mesh with the Kings youth movement, but would there be any fit with LA and a retained Shattenkirk? He probably wouldn't be blocking anybody and Shattenkirk could be a tradeable asset again in the last year of his deal. Shattenkirk's deal was slightly frontloaded and he's due 10.6 mil over the next two years.

If the Rangers ate 25%, the Kings would end up with a ~5 mil cap hit and the remaining 8 mil in real cash over two seasons. Rangers free up space to sign their RFAs and they open up a spot for Adam Fox.
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I'd like to see Doughty paired with a competent NHL offensive defensemen, I think that could really boost his overall numbers. And it pushes Forbort back to the 4-6 role where he belongs. A win-win if you will.
 
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deeshamrock said:
Panarin will take his spot on the 1st line. They have Namestnikov, Lemiex , and Vesey. And they might have a kid from the farm system that impresses in camp.

And if not now, they'd have to move him by Feb, I don't think they'll be resigning him, given what he'd be asking.
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Vesey got traded to Buffalo.

Lemieux is a plugger and Namestnikov is more suited for a 3rd line role. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the Rags are trying to move him to open up some cap space as he has one year left on his deal at $4 million.

If they retain Buchnevich, I would think he gets a legit shot in a top 6 role.

Also, watch for Filip Chytil. Good younger hockey player whom they like very much,
 
Brodeur said:
Smith buyout might be the easiest route, although he would eat up 3.145 in dead cap for 2020-21. They wouldn't have any big RFAs due huge raises next summer and Kreider would be the only UFA probably worth retaining. They'd free up an additional 9 mil if they let go of Namestnikov/Fast and didn't qualify Strome.
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Can’t see how they do not retain Strome who fit in fairly well after coming over from Edmonton.

As you mentioned, it’s likely they look to move Smith and Namestnikov.

I’m sure they could find someone to take him as he’s in the last year of his deal @ $4 million.

Smith could be tougher to move out and they would likely have to attach an asset to him in any trade. He has a modified no trade clause and can submit a 10 team no trade list according to Cap Friendly.
 
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