Around the League 20-21 Thread: Playoffs Edition

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At 35 and signed for 2 more years? Nah. Quick might be an option for a team at the 2023 deadline. Assuming he hasn't been bought out by then.

why would he be bought out? There is no reason to take the extra years dead cap space.

Him retiring is more likely IMO
 
Major props to Vegas. They were the way better team after the Game 1 massacre.

I still don’t know why they are so hated in here, is it that 2018 playoff series? Any team would have beaten the Kings that year.

I’m cool with any of the remaining 4 winning it.

The favorable reffing for them in their first season was real and the team was low-key dirty but everyone looked the other way because it was a feel good story: especially in light of the shooting heading into the season. Now, I wish the Kings were low-key dirty so I'm not against that style of play but you aren't going to like that team when they are a division rival. They then moved past low-key and straight into known asshole territory which, again, I wish the Kings were.

That's a reason for hating the team. My reason for wanting them to lose every game is the fan base for two reasons:

1 - Rational or not, I'm not happy for any new fan base that just gets to experience sustained success right off the hop. f*** them. This fan base is the equivalent of the Avs from the mid-90s through early '00s. They were insufferable as well and, funny enough, beat the Kings in the playoffs too in an era much like the current one where going to the playoffs wasn't automatic for the Kings. There is no rule saying a fan base has to suffer before winning but I believe in it as a fan of a team that took 40 years to win a Cup and took 25+ just to make a SCF appearance.

2 - While the point above might be irrational, my hatred of the Vegas fan base is rational and rooted in my personal interactions with them at both Kings games and a game in Vegas. Having had seats for 20 seasons, I've run through the insufferable Avs, Wings, Pens and Hawks fans. Pittsburgh isn't here often so it wasn't that bad and the Kings were good while the Hawks bandwagon was going so at least there was somewhat of an offset there. While the Avs and Wings were on top though, the Kings sucked and these two fan bases were complete dicks. At least Detroit mostly sucked for its entire existence until the 90s but the Avs were a bunch of entitled pricks: the Vegas fan base has followed in those footsteps and been even worse. While I stopped going to games as often during the 2019 and 2020 seasons, I specifically avoided going to the games against Vegas as I don't need to be arrested at my age for getting into an altercation at a sporting event.

The top hockey moment for me since Vegas entered the league was the phantom major call against San Jose and the subsequent meltdown by Vegas. That meant that a Sharks highlight is my favorite hockey moment since the 2018 season. I hate this team more than any other one in the league and it isn't even remotely close and it is almost completely due to their fans. The current final four is a complete nightmare as the Islanders are the only ones I want to see win it and a Tampa/Vegas final is the absolute worst case scenario. I hate Montreal too but I'll be rooting for the upset and hope that the clinching game is in Vegas so their fans can see them lose in person.
 
why would he be bought out? There is no reason to take the extra years dead cap space.

Him retiring is more likely IMO

$2.5m is still real money. If he gets "hurt" next year, maybe LTIR for 22-23. That's not your Hossa or Zetterberg last year of a contract though.
 
$2.5m is still real money. If he gets "hurt" next year, maybe LTIR for 22-23. That's not your Hossa or Zetterberg last year of a contract though.
If bought out after next season the savings would be just over $800K.. It's not my money but that does seem worthwhile considering you will spend more than $800K on a Quick replacement.
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how long does richards $750K go on for?

Per CapFriendly:

TERMINATION FEES

LENGTH: 17 YEARS
VALUE: $10,500,000
TEAM: Los Angeles Kings
SEASONCAP HIT
2015-16$1,800,000
2016-17$250,000
2017-18$250,000
2018-19$250,000
2019-20$250,000
2020-21$700,000
2021-22$900,000
2022-23$900,000
2023-24$700,000
2024-25$700,000
2025-26$600,000
2026-27$600,000
2027-28$600,000
2028-29$600,000
2029-30$500,000
2030-31$500,000
2031-32$400,000
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
 
Per CapFriendly:

TERMINATION FEES

LENGTH: 17 YEARS
VALUE: $10,500,000
TEAM: Los Angeles Kings
SEASONCAP HIT
2015-16$1,800,000
2016-17$250,000
2017-18$250,000
2018-19$250,000
2019-20$250,000
2020-21$700,000
2021-22$900,000
2022-23$900,000
2023-24$700,000
2024-25$700,000
2025-26$600,000
2026-27$600,000
2027-28$600,000
2028-29$600,000
2029-30$500,000
2030-31$500,000
2031-32$400,000
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

hahaha...great
 
Taylor Hall, David Krejci Not Looking To Maximize Salary On Next Deals

Similar to Hall though, the veteran forward isn’t looking to maximize his salary, explaining that his next deal “is not going to be based on money.” Krejci said he can’t see himself playing for another team, but also admitted he hasn’t made a firm decision on his future at this point.

With Charlie McAvoy and Patrice Bergeron needing new contracts after next season and David Pastrnak scheduled for unrestricted free agency a year after that, Sweeney and the Bruins front office will have to delicately balance the transition from the current core to the new one. It might come with some difficult decisions.


I get Krejci's desire to stay, but given that he and Bergeron are turning 36 and Charlie Coyle is turning 30, I think the Bruins have to a younger top 6 center. I'm sure Hall would like to stay, but given the Bruins aging core and CAP situation, that might not be easy.
 
If bought out after next season the savings would be just over $800K.. It's not my money but that does seem worthwhile considering you will spend more than $800K on a Quick replacement.
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I don't think he will be bought out. I don't think he's going anywhere. Nor do I think he's some secret weapon anymore that a contender needs to get. If you're getting Quick in 2021 because he's a playoff goalie, that's just hoping he still has that left.

That's like signing Kovalchuk in 2018 because he scored goals before.
 
The Bruins will do what most teams do; try and squeeze out every possible win from the guys they have. They've had some luck with contracts, Marchand being maybe the biggest one, but they've also had worse results the following year over the last 3 years in the playoffs.

You can keep retooling and tweeking things, but the actual Cup win is another year in the rear view mirror.
 
And if Richards could still play at the time, we never hear about any international border incident.

The cap is just a good example of how humans will try to get around any constraint put on them. Nobody like the cap. If you haven't at least tried to break the rules of it, you're either a saint, or just haven't been around long enough yet.

We would have still heard about it. I'm certain Richards lost his work visa and that is how the Kings found out 10 days later at the draft - the letter revoking it arrived in the mail. Losing a work visa results in an entry ban from what I understand.

The application process for a waiver is 6 months long which would have kept Richards out until late December.

Former Flyer Mike Richards Charged With Possession of Oxy - Gambone Law

And that would clearly explain Bill Daly's comments.
 

Great post. I'd add the (illegal) PED use that multiple players on their team got hit with. That apparently wasn't a big deal to most folks, but I hate cheating - if that had happened to the Kings, I honestly would've hoped for repercussions.

I don't have much hope for Montreal (they have Corey Perry anyway), but I guess I'm on an island insofar as I don't particularly mind Tampa Bay - personally, I'd love seeing the later sweep the Knights aside like last week's trash...
 
We would have still heard about it. I'm certain Richards lost his work visa and that is how the Kings found out 10 days later at the draft - the letter revoking it arrived in the mail. Losing a work visa results in an entry ban from what I understand.

The application process for a waiver is 6 months long which would have kept Richards out until late December.

Former Flyer Mike Richards Charged With Possession of Oxy - Gambone Law

And that would clearly explain Bill Daly's comments.
It's amazing to me how many don't understand how contracts work. It's a "this" for "that". If you cannot provide the "this" you don't get the "that". Richards screwed himself -- there was no cap circumvention.
 
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At 35 and signed for 2 more years? Nah. Quick might be an option for a team at the 2023 deadline. Assuming he hasn't been bought out by then.
Uhh is 2 years a long time? Quicks contract isn't even bad anymore in the current NHL. Colorado should 100% reach out for Quick. They'd be stupid not to.
 
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The favorable reffing for them in their first season was real and the team was low-key dirty but everyone looked the other way because it was a feel good story: especially in light of the shooting heading into the season. Now, I wish the Kings were low-key dirty so I'm not against that style of play but you aren't going to like that team when they are a division rival. They then moved past low-key and straight into known asshole territory which, again, I wish the Kings were.

That's a reason for hating the team. My reason for wanting them to lose every game is the fan base for two reasons:

1 - Rational or not, I'm not happy for any new fan base that just gets to experience sustained success right off the hop. f*** them. This fan base is the equivalent of the Avs from the mid-90s through early '00s. They were insufferable as well and, funny enough, beat the Kings in the playoffs too in an era much like the current one where going to the playoffs wasn't automatic for the Kings. There is no rule saying a fan base has to suffer before winning but I believe in it as a fan of a team that took 40 years to win a Cup and took 25+ just to make a SCF appearance.

2 - While the point above might be irrational, my hatred of the Vegas fan base is rational and rooted in my personal interactions with them at both Kings games and a game in Vegas. Having had seats for 20 seasons, I've run through the insufferable Avs, Wings, Pens and Hawks fans. Pittsburgh isn't here often so it wasn't that bad and the Kings were good while the Hawks bandwagon was going so at least there was somewhat of an offset there. While the Avs and Wings were on top though, the Kings sucked and these two fan bases were complete dicks. At least Detroit mostly sucked for its entire existence until the 90s but the Avs were a bunch of entitled pricks: the Vegas fan base has followed in those footsteps and been even worse. While I stopped going to games as often during the 2019 and 2020 seasons, I specifically avoided going to the games against Vegas as I don't need to be arrested at my age for getting into an altercation at a sporting event.

The top hockey moment for me since Vegas entered the league was the phantom major call against San Jose and the subsequent meltdown by Vegas. That meant that a Sharks highlight is my favorite hockey moment since the 2018 season. I hate this team more than any other one in the league and it isn't even remotely close and it is almost completely due to their fans. The current final four is a complete nightmare as the Islanders are the only ones I want to see win it and a Tampa/Vegas final is the absolute worst case scenario. I hate Montreal too but I'll be rooting for the upset and hope that the clinching game is in Vegas so their fans can see them lose in person.

Just to add, I was thinking about it last night, it's nice to finally really hate a team and organization in our division. Hating the ducks or sharks was getting a bit stale. My hate for Vegas tops the other two.

My other reason why I hate the Knights is not only do they still get very visible reffing on their side, but the fact they are the most dirty team in the NHL. In game 1 how many runs did they take and players did they attempt to injure.


So infuriating. I hope their organization craters or that the Kings can stop being p***yes for once and maybe kick their ass a few times.

Suspended Doughty for 2 games for something the Knights do nightly now and if at worst 5k fine.

The best part of the game 6 last night is that Knights only got one call against them and it was delay of game automatic. Whitecloud was water-skiing on MacKinnon the whole time.

It's not that playoff hockey is geared towards "tough" teams. It's favorable for them because the Calls talented teams would get for clowning on the slower less talented teams would be called during regular season . The refs didn't call anything anymore against the Knights, and the best part is add the Vegas component. Vegas got away with a ton.
 
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Just to add, I was thinking about it last night, it's nice to finally really hate a team and organization in our division. Hating the ducks or sharks was getting a bit stale. My hate for Vegas tops the other two.

My other reason why I hate the Knights is not only do they still get very visible reffing on their side, but the fact they are the most dirty team in the NHL. In game 1 how many runs did they take and players did they attempt to injure.


So infuriating. I hope their organization craters or that the Kings can stop being p***yes for once and maybe kick their ass a few times.

Suspended Doughty for 2 games for something the Knights do nightly now and if at worst 5k fine.

The best part of the game 6 last night is that Knights only got one call against them and it was delay of game automatic. Whitecloud was water-skiing on MacKinnon the whole time.

It's not that playoff hockey is geared towards "tough" teams. It's favorable for them because the Calls talented teams would get for clowning on the slower less talented teams would be called during regular season . The refs didn't call anything anymore against the Knights, and the best part is add the Vegas component. Vegas got away with a ton.

Tuch got away with a few late in the game when it was tied. Knocking a guys stick into the bench, [the reverse slash where you use so much force to lift a guys stick, it goes flying out of his hands] and the high stick late in the 3rd when it was 4-3. Even the NBC vegas homers were surprised it wasn't called.
 
The favorable reffing for them in their first season was real and the team was low-key dirty but everyone looked the other way because it was a feel good story: especially in light of the shooting heading into the season. Now, I wish the Kings were low-key dirty so I'm not against that style of play but you aren't going to like that team when they are a division rival. They then moved past low-key and straight into known asshole territory which, again, I wish the Kings were.

That's a reason for hating the team. My reason for wanting them to lose every game is the fan base for two reasons:

1 - Rational or not, I'm not happy for any new fan base that just gets to experience sustained success right off the hop. f*** them. This fan base is the equivalent of the Avs from the mid-90s through early '00s. They were insufferable as well and, funny enough, beat the Kings in the playoffs too in an era much like the current one where going to the playoffs wasn't automatic for the Kings. There is no rule saying a fan base has to suffer before winning but I believe in it as a fan of a team that took 40 years to win a Cup and took 25+ just to make a SCF appearance.

2 - While the point above might be irrational, my hatred of the Vegas fan base is rational and rooted in my personal interactions with them at both Kings games and a game in Vegas. Having had seats for 20 seasons, I've run through the insufferable Avs, Wings, Pens and Hawks fans. Pittsburgh isn't here often so it wasn't that bad and the Kings were good while the Hawks bandwagon was going so at least there was somewhat of an offset there. While the Avs and Wings were on top though, the Kings sucked and these two fan bases were complete dicks. At least Detroit mostly sucked for its entire existence until the 90s but the Avs were a bunch of entitled pricks: the Vegas fan base has followed in those footsteps and been even worse. While I stopped going to games as often during the 2019 and 2020 seasons, I specifically avoided going to the games against Vegas as I don't need to be arrested at my age for getting into an altercation at a sporting event.

The top hockey moment for me since Vegas entered the league was the phantom major call against San Jose and the subsequent meltdown by Vegas. That meant that a Sharks highlight is my favorite hockey moment since the 2018 season. I hate this team more than any other one in the league and it isn't even remotely close and it is almost completely due to their fans. The current final four is a complete nightmare as the Islanders are the only ones I want to see win it and a Tampa/Vegas final is the absolute worst case scenario. I hate Montreal too but I'll be rooting for the upset and hope that the clinching game is in Vegas so their fans can see them lose in person.

I've been out in Vegas for two months taking care of my mom and I can't stand the fans here. I've given up wearing my Kings hat because of all the trash talk I would get. Plus, I wouldn't put it past some server to spit in my food or something. The media is also ridiculous. This morning, a news crew was making fun of some woman from Canada who did something stupid on camera. It just seemed really out of place, but then I remembered the Knights are playing Montreal. I guess the hate is flowing towards anything Canadian. Oh, and I really want to punch Jason Feinberg in the face. He's one of the newscasters out here and completely insufferable.

That said, I somewhat envy their popularity with everyone here. Everywhere you look, you'll see a Knights logo. I want to say that half the cars have a Knights license plate and if they don't, they have a sticker. Like I mentioned earlier, their media coverage is off the charts compared to SoCal, where our newscasters can't even get player names right. I don't know if people here will turn on them when they eventually miss the playoffs and such, but I would love to find out.

The worst part, though, is that my parents (especially my dad) were diehard Kings fans until the Knights came into the league. They moved from SoCal to the Vegas area about 20 years ago, but they still followed the Kings because the games were broadcast here. Once the Knights started playing, though, the Kings games were blacked out and they changed allegiance (even though I hooked them up with my Fox Sports login). I remember asking them why and my mom said that they were something for the community to rally around after the shooting here. Fair enough. Sadly, my dad passed away last year, but whenever I talk crap about the team in front of my mom, she says that I should root for the Knights because dad would have wanted them to win. Sorry dad, but there are some lines I can't cross!
 
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