Around the League '16-'17 Other Teams' Free Agent Frenzy

[ru4reals]

Looking at Barber's feed I noticed this:


Nice.

If he was passing to the likes of Lewis, Clifford, Toffolli, Pearson etc etc it would have been right to the goalie chest. Good thing he had a finisher taking the shot. LOL.

 

[ru4reals]

I haven't rooted for a Canadian team to win the Cup since the 07 Sens and that's because I had to. This time, I don't mind the Jets winning it.

SO long as Pens, Bruins, and Sharks don't win it's a happy Stanley for me.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

SJ has proven to be a better team than the Kings by basically smashing them every time since 2014 and especially since the 2016 season.

Now, I know the Kings beat ANA in 2014 even though they seemingly lost to them in the regular season all the time as well, but this Kings team isn't the 2014 version.

I still liked the Vegas match up and we saw them hold Vegas to only 7 goals. Kings offense is basically #11 with an assist from #8. They were shut down by a team I wouldn't consider great defensively: that is a big problem. The power play needed to produce and fell completely flat. It is a favorite pastime of mine to criticize San Jose as a PP-only team but, in the end, those goals count the same so they have performed better than LA did.

SJ plays faster than the Kings which is why I have them winning this series against Vegas. I said I would not jump to conclusions after Game 1 and now here we are with a SJ win in Game 2 and then an OT loss in Game 3. Game 1 was an apparition while the last two are more indicative of the match-up.

We can all argue about this but the one thing we shouldn't be able to argue is that the Kings do not seem to be on par with the level of hockey that is being played by the remaining 8 teams. The creativity on offense, the clean break outs, cross ice passes etc...are just not there for the Kings.

I read a post that said the Kings are still "learning" how to play that way. That's fine. What that also means is that they are simply not good enough at the moment to compete with the teams that are teaching how to play that way. Quick playing at an elite level and Doughty eating 30 minutes can help make things look competitive to the point where you can try to hang your hat (it will fall on the floor) on "bounces", but it really looks like a team that brought a knife to a gunfight when you watch the hockey that is currently being played.

Bolded the issue I have, Vegas is criminally under rated defensively, they were one of the top in the league

 

[KINGS17]

That hit by Wilson was really borderline. I know he is trying to explode through the other players body when delivery the hit, but it would have been an equally effective play had he glided into the hit. I think, given the concussion situation the NHL is trying to address, it's the kind of hit the NHL is trying to eliminate.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

That hit by Wilson was really borderline. I know he is trying to explode through the other players body when delivery the hit, but it would have been an equally effective play had he glided into the hit. I think, given the concussion situation the NHL is trying to address, it's the kind of hit the NHL is trying to eliminate.

Maybe, but man that was a great hit....

 

[kingsholygrail]

The issue is they basically said "he didn't mean to do it" which wasn't an adequate excuse for Doughty for some reason.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The issue is they basically said "he didn't mean to do it" which wasn't an adequate excuse for Doughty for some reason.

Not if you watch the video they provided, it was all about the head snap....

 

[KINGS17]

Maybe, but man that was a great hit....

Borderline illegal though and the Dept of Player Safety will definitely have a look at it.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Borderline illegal though and the Dept of Player Safety will definitely have a look at it.

Nothing borderline illegal about it, no raised arm/elbow, skates on the ice til contact, eligible to be hit, he went through him....

 

[kingsfan28]

I want the Pens to lose just so we don't have to he that damn horn every 5 min . Honk-honk-honk...lets go Pens!

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Dynamic offense. That's how you score on an odd-man rush.

 

[KINGS17]

Nothing borderline illegal about it, no raised arm/elbow, skates on the ice til contact, eligible to be hit, he went through him....

Uh, the replay showed Wilson's skates came off the ice, and if they don't maybe it's shoulder to chest instead of shoulder to chin. No need to explode into the opposing player on that hit. Wilson had him lined up and could have finished the check without his blades coming off the ice.

 

[Herby]

This is what happens when the crappy teams all lose in the 1st round. The upsets are fun and part of what makes the playoffs great but it’s actually nice to see elite teams square off.

 

[Scottkmlps]

Preds are coming unglued.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Bolded the issue I have, Vegas is criminally under rated defensively, they were one of the top in the league

Not even just that, I think they've demonstrated how versatile they are. Need to play a suffocating defensive game? They can do that. Need to collapse for a bit and just get some rush chances? Ok, let's do that. Need to forecheck the other team into oblivion, full-court-press style? Sure.

The issue is they basically said "he didn't mean to do it" which wasn't an adequate excuse for Doughty for some reason.

Hahahahahah awesome. Between that and the "non hockey play headshot" stuff they've just completely lost their shit.

I thought Parros, given his education as well as his unique player perspective, was the right man for the job but it's as stupid as ever.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Uh, the replay showed Wilson's skates came off the ice, and if they don't maybe it's shoulder to chest instead of shoulder to chin. No need to explode into the opposing player on that hit. Wilson had him lined up and could have finished the check without his blades coming off the ice.

Watch again, his left skate is clearly on the ice when contact is made,

You may be right in that the NHL wants to get rid of this type of hit, but the hit he made currently is good in the rulebook.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Uh, the replay showed Wilson's skates came off the ice, and if they don't maybe it's shoulder to chest instead of shoulder to chin. No need to explode into the opposing player on that hit. Wilson had him lined up and could have finished the check without his blades coming off the ice.

I actually want to see a different angle of it now that I watched it again, the two angles in the thread on the playoff board, don't give enough, I didn't think there was any snapping to the head based on those angles, but I want to see another clearer angle if there is one out there....

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

 

[kingsfan28]

Not even just that, I think they've demonstrated how versatile they are. Need to play a suffocating defensive game? They can do that. Need to collapse for a bit and just get some rush chances? Ok, let's do that. Need to forecheck the other team into oblivion, full-court-press style? Sure.




Hahahahahah awesome. Between that and the "non hockey play headshot" stuff they've just completely lost their ****.

I thought Parros, given his education as well as his unique player perspective, was the right man for the job but it's as stupid as ever.

Did you see the video they released trying to explain the difference between what is or isn't? So f***ing lame.

 

[kingsfan28]

I actually want to see a different angle of it now that I watched it again, the two angles in the thread on the playoff board, don't give enough, I didn't think there was any snapping to the head based on those angles, but I want to see another clearer angle if there is one out there....

One of the problems is that the best view is blocked by a player skating into the frame.

 

[YP44]

It was close because of Quick...no other reason. LA was outplayed from the first minute of the first game.

especially true for game 2, but game three MAF stole for Vegas IMO. Game 4 was fairly even.

 

[KINGS17]

Watch again, his left skate is clearly on the ice when contact is made,

You may be right in that the NHL wants to get rid of this type of hit, but the hit he made currently is good in the rulebook.

Oh, his left skate is barely touching the ice? I guess it's okay then that Wilson used his left leg to jump into the hit with his right skate being completely off the ice, driving his shoulder into his opponent's face, and breaking Aston-Reese's jaw. You're right, no harm, no foul.

It's a dangerous and stupid play. Now compare it to Brown's hit on Sedin. See how Brown is gliding all the way?

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Oh, his left skate is barely touching the ice? I guess it's okay then that Wilson used his left leg to jump into the hit with his right skate being completely off the ice, driving his shoulder into his opponent's face, and breaking Aston-Reese's jaw. You're right, no harm, no foul.

It's a dangerous and stupid play. Now compare it to Brown's hit on Sedin. See how Brown is gliding all the way?

No, his left skate was pretty flush....and yes, it's absolutely fine that Wilso used his left leg to propel himself up into the hit...I don't know about you, but that's how you are taught to hit, all the power from a hit comes from the lower body, not the upper.

I like how you try to compare the two hits as if they are similar etc.

And again, you maybe right, DOPS may want to get rid of this type of hit, but to do so, they have to change the rules, as it stands, there is no rule against making a devastating hit by going through your opponent, he didn't pick the head, he went through his shoulder and crushed him.

 

[KINGS17]

No, his left skate was pretty flush....and yes, it's absolutely fine that Wilso used his left leg to propel himself up into the hit...I don't know about you, but that's how you are taught to hit, all the power from a hit comes from the lower body, not the upper.

I like how you try to compare the two hits as if they are similar etc.

And again, you maybe right, DOPS may want to get rid of this type of hit, but to do so, they have to change the rules, as it stands, there is no rule against making a devastating hit by going through your opponent, he didn't pick the head, he went through his shoulder and crushed him.

The two hits aren't similar, and that's the point. One is legal and one is a player coming off his skates and driving his shoulder into the opponent's chin.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

The two hits aren't similar, and that's the point. One is legal and one is a player coming off his skates and driving his shoulder into the opponent's chin.

Didn't come off his skates first of all, and second, he didn't drive his shoulder into his chin, it was shoulder to shoulder contact, and he went through him, you make it sound like he picked the head, that's not what happened.

Though I believe I saw somewhere where they have a hearing, maybe they have a better angle that shows that, the two angles I saw, did not.