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BigKing said:
Never happen. Better chance for shorter contracts before non-guaranteed, in my opinion.

They are like nuclear bombs: you wish they were never invented but it's too late.
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Depends on the owners' view of the situation. I think as more of them are paying players a lot of money to be ineffective, or sit on LTIR, the more of them will want to eliminate the guaranteed contracts. I could live with max contract length being 5 years.

When push comes to shove, the owners always win.
 
KINGS17 said:
Man, not sure what video review people were looking at, but the NBC feed clearly shows the puck over the goal line by a small fraction of an inch. Hornqvist saw it over the line, and he was right.
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More like what were you watching...the NBC feed never showed an replay with the puck clearly over the line.
 
KINGS17 said:
They had a freeze frame where the puck was clearly over the line, and they showed it multiple times.
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being on angle like that is NOT conclusive....geezus, how many times have we seen that situation...if it's not overhead, it don't mean dick
 
Axl Rhoadz said:
being on angle like that is NOT conclusive....geezus, how many times have we seen that situation...if it's not overhead, it don't mean dick
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Pretty easy for me to see the red goal line, a little sliver of white ice, and then the black puck. No need to see it from another angle, because if it is over the line, it is over the line.

Just like this one...
 
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KINGS17 said:
Depends on the owners' view of the situation. I think as more of them are paying players a lot of money to be ineffective, or sit on LTIR, the more of them will want to eliminate the guaranteed contracts. I could live with max contract length being 5 years.

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The GM's have wanted shorter contracts in the last two CBA negotiations. At some point the GM's will win out.
 
Nice blast by Arvidsson from the right face off dot.

Nice job by Stastny giving Suban exactly the same tough crosscheck Suban had just dished out to a defenseless Laine.

Winnipeg looking like they may be the team to beat in the West.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Depends on the owners' view of the situation. I think as more of them are paying players a lot of money to be ineffective, or sit on LTIR, the more of them will want to eliminate the guaranteed contracts. I could live with max contract length being 5 years.

When push comes to shove, the owners always win.
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Or we lose an entire year of hockey, in which no one wins.

The guaranteed contract is a hill the PA is willing to die upon, as they should. I’m fairly centrist when it comes to unions and union power, but a contract is a contract. You can’t pretend it doesn’t exist due to buyer’s remorse.

Unless the PA is willing to allow performance clauses into contracts, which would permit termination, guaranteed contracts are here to stay. No one in the PA is willing to give up contracted financial security to do the BOG a favor here.

If the BOG demands for the removal of guaranteed contracts, prepare yourselves for another long, long lockout. The PA would sooner allow shorter contract lengths and a decreased revenue split than give up guaranteed contracts.
 
SettlementRichie10 said:
Or we lose an entire year of hockey, in which no one wins.

The guaranteed contract is a hill the PA is willing to die upon, as they should. I’m fairly centrist when it comes to unions and union power, but a contract is a contract. You can’t pretend it doesn’t exist due to buyer’s remorse.

Unless the PA is willing to allow performance clauses into contracts, which would permit termination, guaranteed contracts are here to stay. No one in the PA is willing to give up contracted financial security to do the BOG a favor here.

If the BOG demands for the removal of guaranteed contracts, prepare yourselves for another long, long lockout. The PA would sooner allow shorter contract lengths and a decreased revenue split than give up guaranteed contracts.
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The owners have already demonstrated their willingness to sit out an entire season. I am sure the owners will have to make some concessions and they won't get everything they want. It's always tougher on the players though, because time is not on their side.
 
I don't believe the angles being used to justify goals on the ice unless there from above and this is why it's called parallax view. In photography, the apparent displacement of the position of an object in relation to a reference point, due to a change in the point of observation.

 
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They had a freeze frame where the puck was clearly over the line, and they showed it multiple times.
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I guess if you assume with the snow blocking the line of sight of the redline and ignore the possibility of parallel view it could be in.Personally that angle and possibly parallel view with the ice piled up, is not conclusive to be a goal.
 
deaderhead28 said:
I don't believe the angles being used to justify goals on the ice unless there from above and this is why it's called parallax view. In photography, the apparent displacement of the position of an object in relation to a reference point, due to a change in the point of observation.

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Paging Kings17....
 
deaderhead28 said:
I don't believe the angles being used to justify goals on the ice unless there from above and this is why it's called parallax view. In photography, the apparent displacement of the position of an object in relation to a reference point, due to a change in the point of observation.

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Okay, fair enough.
 
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KINGS17 said:
Depends on the owners' view of the situation. I think as more of them are paying players a lot of money to be ineffective, or sit on LTIR, the more of them will want to eliminate the guaranteed contracts. I could live with max contract length being 5 years.

When push comes to shove, the owners always win.
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damacles1156 said:
I was thinking the same 4/5 would be perfect.
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Long term guaranteed contracts don't always cost owners more money. Sometimes they save owners money.

Carter's contract has saved owners quite a bit precisely because it's an 11 year guaranteed deal. If you move towards something similar to the NFL model where contracts aren't fully guaranteed, Carter could have also renegotiated his deal which would have been more expensive.

Long term guaranteed deals allow you to negotiate down the yearly cost in exchange for giving the player stability.

If McDavid could only sign 5 years, then you're probably going to have to pay him a lot more than 12.5M/year to resign after the deal is up.
 
Why not make all years after 5 non guaranteed? If you're not gonna do that the buy outs need to be easier for teams to use. If a guy has a couple of horrible years teams should be able to walk away with no damage since the player is no longer producing. I think the NHL is concerned with injury lawsuits and PED use but it seems like the non superstar players in the NHL will have shorter and shorter great years ahead of them in this current speed only NHL.
 
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I'd want cap hits to follow actual salaries paid out. If that messes too much with the cap for everyone, then grandfather old contracts in under the current treatment or let the teams pick a couple contracts to grandfather in.

I'd also want a player to be able to retire due to injury and not have a LTIR situation.
 
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