Around the League '16-'17 Other Teams' Free Agent Frenzy

[CowMix]

My problem with the Kings isn't their size, speed or transition. When they're on it, they're as good as anyone other team in the league. It's their whole offensive mindset, which is cycle cycle cycle and shoot at someone's body. And when the shot happens, people outside the building walking by can see it coming. If the Kings are gonna do that, at least make the shots Chara bombs.

Best part about this was reading some Leafs posters on the main board saying that Chara intentionally shot at Rielly

 

[KINGS17]

I feel nothing for them.

There is probably only one team from Canada I can support at this point, and it's Winnipeg.

It would be a nice story for them to win a cup after losing their team and getting one back.

 

[bouncesonly]

Because not ALL goals are scored that way,

They weren't crappy at it, they were mediocre, 17th in Regular season, 9 goals from being 14th etc, keep in mind, without a goal scoring 2nd line C most of the way.

Mediocre only cause two players had career years. Takeaway Brown and Kopi's 50+ goals, it's crap.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Mediocre only cause two players had career years. Takeaway Brown and Kopi's 50+ goals, it's crap.

Well hell you can say that about every freaking team,

Are you serious?

Tampa Bay - You take away Kucherov's 39 and Brayden Point's 32, (Point???) and they fall
Winnipeg - Laine and Conner, take those away
Toronto - JVR, Matthews etc,

That's an absolute piss poor argument, yea, take away Kopitar and Brown and it's crappy....well...duh

 

[Kingsfan1]

I am all for Amadio getting 50 points next season. Let's see it.

Now where is our Pastrnak, DeBrusk, McAvoy, Carlo, and Donato.

Before 2014 they were drafting terrible like we have been the last few years . Players who sniff the NHL then are out immediately. Since then They are drafting unbelievably amazing . They changed their philosophy on how to draft and what to look for .

Pasta,Debrusk,Heinen,Mcavoy,Carlo,Donato ,Bjork, have all been drafted in the last 4 years and are a big part of the team now . Since 2014 only Kempe and Amadio have played in the NHL and it was this year .

I don't believe our window is closed for one second . If we draft for speed and skill and sign depth for the bottom 6 I think we can contend once again .

 

[Reaper45]

If you watch, the entire league is like that, cycle, get pucks low to high, and get the shots through, EVERY team does either that, or some variation of that....

While that is true when have you ever seen the Kings try those diagonal passes that Vegas used to slaughter them? There are things other teams in the league do that the Kings do not, or are not very good at.

 

[bouncesonly]

Well hell you can say that about every freaking team,

Are you serious?

Tampa Bay - You take away Kucherov's 39 and Brayden Point's 32, (Point???) and they fall
Winnipeg - Laine and Conner, take those away
Toronto - JVR, Matthews etc,

That's an absolute piss poor argument, yea, take away Kopitar and Brown and it's crappy....well...duh

Kings GF with career years from Kopi/Brown: 237
Tampa Bay minus Kuch/Point: 218
Winnipeg minus Laine/Conner: 198
Toronto minus JVR/Matthews: 200

All 3 teams slightly worse than the Kings with Kopi and Brown's best. Are YOU serious? Kings offense is crap, but I'll gladly eat crow if Kopi and Brown keep up career year performances to the end of their contracts.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Kings GF with career years from Kopi/Brown: 237
Tampa Bay minus Kuch/Point: 218
Winnipeg minus Laine/Conner: 198
Toronto minus JVR/Matthews: 200

All 3 teams slightly worse than the Kings with Kopi and Brown's best. Are YOU serious? Kings offense is crap, but I'll gladly eat crow if Kopi and Brown keep up career year performances to the end of their contracts.

Now let's add Carter's what, career average, let's call it 30, sounds fair right? So, 267, that actually puts them top 10 last year,

But if you think Brayden Point is a perennial 30 goal scorer? More power to you.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

While that is true when have you ever seen the Kings try those diagonal passes that Vegas used to slaughter them? There are things other teams in the league do that the Kings do not, or are not very good at.

Honestly, don't remember Vegas making diagonal passes in the offensive zone, not many teams will do that because the defensive coverage is such that, unless it's a blown coverage, that pass isn't getting through,

The things that teams do more than LA, is attack the net, for some reason LA doesn't do it, but other teams do.

 

[bouncesonly]

Now let's add Carter's what, career average, let's call it 30, sounds fair right? So, 267, that actually puts them top 10 last year,

But if you think Brayden Point is a perennial 30 goal scorer? More power to you.

Carter and the career bros were pretty much shutdown, 4 times against Vegas. Your argument is to ride on the backs of career performances and say our offense is just ok? If that's how things are for the Kings, can't wait to see them get swept again next playoffs....if they make it that far!

 

[yankeeking]

Honestly, don't remember Vegas making diagonal passes in the offensive zone, not many teams will do that because the defensive coverage is such that, unless it's a blown coverage, that pass isn't getting through,

The things that teams do more than LA, is attack the net, for some reason LA doesn't do it, but other teams do.

the reason is the minute a puck is 50-50 one forward drops back into coverage and we get out numbered down low , when we get it set up with someone in front we move the puck low to high and if the shot rebounds to the corner opposite our centers they peel off to get back for d coverage ,its the way we still are able to give up the least amount of GA and get swept at the same time , until we change to the flashy new way and get 3 forwards low to out number the dmen its one or two shots and done ,of course the GA will go up and the geniuses will really get on quick then lol................it is the price of success and it happens in all works of life , think a saleman from just a few years ago can sell things the same as now when a prospective client can google say lawn furniture and it shows up the next day from amazon , well if he can probably sell to some (blackhole ) but not nearly the same as even 5 years ago , it took the penguins 9 years to win again even with the 2 best forwards in the game , took the bruins 7 years to be good again and they haven't won anything yet in a a much easier conf. , Blake is moving in a better direction with the signings he has made but it still will take a little time

 

[KINGS17]

Before 2014 they were drafting terrible like we have been the last few years . Players who sniff the NHL then are out immediately. Since then They are drafting unbelievably amazing . They changed their philosophy on how to draft and what to look for .

Pasta,Debrusk,Heinen,Mcavoy,Carlo,Donato ,Bjork, have all been drafted in the last 4 years and are a big part of the team now . Since 2014 only Kempe and Amadio have played in the NHL and it was this year .

I don't believe our window is closed for one second . If we draft for speed and skill and sign depth for the bottom 6 I think we can contend once again .

Thanks for the reply, and I understand where you are coming from. The point I have been trying to make is all of the Bruins youngsters have arrived, and their core really has no one in it older than 31-32 years of age other than Chara.

Now when you look at the Kings, and assuming they are 4 years away from getting the same kind of young talent incorporated into the lineup, you are looking at a core where Kopitar is 34, Carter is 37, Quick is 36, and Doughty is 33. So, I am asking, why are we hanging on to Jeff Carter? Alec Martinez, Jake Muzzin, maybe even Quick and Doughty?

Why be a black hole team for the next 4 years? Isn't the idea to get higher picks and trade off depreciating assets for assets which will appreciate in value over the next 4-5 years.

I'm sorry, but I think the window is closed for this core group of players. The Kings simply don't have the assets on the farm to make the huge strides necessary to be contenders again when the core is still young enough to be major contributors. Now is the time to sell high and buy low.

How many of you here really wouldn't do Doughty for Marner, Liljegren, Kapanen/Dermott, and a 1st? I may be over estimating Doughty's value, but I think I am pretty close. Put it this way Drew Doughty would erase a lot of Jake Gardiner's mistakes.

 

[LAKings88]

I don’t think you get that package from Toronto for Doughty.

 

[Sol]

Pens getting pounded so far. Murray keeping it tied.

Man speed is crazy. No wonder our forecheck sucks. None of them throw hard hits with speed.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Hey I don't know where else to post this but I'll give it a shot here. It's about NHL 18. I don't know if you guys have noticed, but it seems to me that Staples Center is the only NHL arena in that game that has EA and NHLPA as the on-ice ads. The other arena have Tim Horton's and Honda.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Here at TMobile for the start of round two between Vegas and SJ.

Going deep undercover wish me luck boys

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

I don’t think you get that package from Toronto for Doughty.

I doubt it unless Toronto is really, really, really desperate AND Doughty signs agrees to an extension before the trade. Nylander + Gardiner + 2 firsts is what I'd imagine they would offer.

Have to remember that Doughty isn't the only good d-man UFA next season. Karlsson, Ellis, OEL, Myers, McDonagh. Obviously Doughty and Karlsson are a league ahead of the others but you don't necessarily need a stud d-man as some teams are proving.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Rooting for the Caps in this series. This league needs the Caps to finally beat their so-called rivals. And Ovechkin really does deserve to win a Cup.

 

[Vamos Rafa]

Goddamn it Caps

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Carter and the career bros were pretty much shutdown, 4 times against Vegas. Your argument is to ride on the backs of career performances and say our offense is just ok? If that's how things are for the Kings, can't wait to see them get swept again next playoffs....if they make it that far!

LOL yes, 4 games, huge sample size.....right?

 

[WHOneedsSOX]

Goddamn it Caps

What happened?? I turned it to the draft at 2-0 and 5 minutes later it's 3-2 Pens.

 

[Sol]

Caps should trade for Quick if they want to win the cup. Holtby is such a mental midget. What a disgrace.

 

[Sol]

What happened?? I turned it to the draft at 2-0 and 5 minutes later it's 3-2 Pens.

Holtby happened.

 

[ru4reals]

LOL Caps again. Pathetic.

 

[Sausages]

Holtby sucks.