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Players, especially the top guys, will always be in the driver's seat when it comes to contracts. That's why they wanted free agency. It's easy to say walk away, but then fans will complain about signing a guy on the cheap. Like with Cammalleri. Damned if you do or don't. If a team doesn't have a bad contract or two today, they most likely will tomorrow. If not, they're signing guys on the cheap, and aren't taken seriously.
 
KINGS17 said:
This is true. Now when are GMs going to figure out you can't tie up 30% to 40% of your cap space in 3 or 4 players?
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Having a bunch of your cap tied up in a few players may be the new norm. We'll have to see how it plays out.

If I was the Oilers it wouldn't be the McDavid contract that would concern me. He's a generational talent so it's a unique situation.

It's the guys like Draisaitl that are more concerning. He's a great young player, but he's not special like McDavid. His point totals are somewhat inflated because of playing with McDavid. 9M on a second deal seems like an awful lot for him.
 
johnjm22 said:
Having a bunch of your cap tied up in a few players may be the new norm. We'll have to see how it plays out.

If I was the Oilers it wouldn't be the McDavid contract that would concern me. He's a generational talent so it's a unique situation.

It's the guys like Draisaitl that are more concerning. He's a great young player, but he's not special like McDavid. His point totals are somewhat inflated because of playing with McDavid. 9M on a second deal seems like an awful lot for him.
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I personally don't see how it could be the new norm. This isn't the NBA where it only takes three players to win a championship.

Agree with you on Draisaitl, but I would rather have him at $8M, and a #2 like Carter at $5M than McDavid at $13M.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
Players, especially the top guys, will always be in the driver's seat when it comes to contracts. That's why they wanted free agency. It's easy to say walk away, but then fans will complain about signing a guy on the cheap. Like with Cammalleri. Damned if you do or don't. If a team doesn't have a bad contract or two today, they most likely will tomorrow. If not, they're signing guys on the cheap, and aren't taken seriously.
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Not if players can be cut. I hope it's coming after the next CBA.

I want to watch the best performances, and I want the players providing them to receive the most money.
 
McDavid+Draisaitl are worth the gamble though.

Both are Centers, both will be signing ALL of their prime production years away (Eight year deals)

That's worth the Gamble.
 
30 year old Lucic and Sekera taking up 15% of the cap would concern me most, especially after the average season Lucic had.
 
Put it this way.

If Kopitar was 19-21 years old right now coming off a 75-80 point season, would anyone blink at a 9-10.5 million a year cap hit ?

Nope.
 
We haven't seen the best of McDavid and he's already hit 100 points. He struggled in the playoffs, but that's ok, he's only 20.
 
It's when a player is 29 years old and the majority of his contract is going to be played on the wrong side 30+ is when you should take some pause.

Not saying (Don't sign him), but you should put more thought into it.
 
damacles1156 said:
McDavid+Draisaitl are worth the gamble though.

Both are Centers, both will be signing ALL of their prime production years away (Eight year deals)

That's worth the Gamble.
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I agree on McDavid. How often does a franchise get a chance to have a player like him? Almost never. Don't **** around. Lock him up.
 
KINGS17 said:
Not if players can be cut. I hope it's coming after the next CBA.

I want to watch the best performances, and I want the players providing them to receive the most money.
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If players could be cut, free and clear or at some smaller cap number, that's a game changer. It also won't happen without a fight. NFL rosters are large, their PA hasn't flexed its muscles too much, and they have so much money in the signing bonuses, that the contracts almost don't matter. The NHL doesn't have quite the same money to play with. If NHL guys could be cut, and/or length of contract is shortened, that would give some more leverage to GM's and teams.
 
Reclamation Project said:
We haven't seen the best of McDavid and he's already hit 100 points. He struggled in the playoffs, but that's ok, he's only 20.
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Even McDavid is going to need help.

What's Gretzky without Kurri and Messier? Lemieux without Jagr? Crosby without Malkin? Kopitar without Carter, and lots of other help?

The guys in this video are already saying how the McDavid deal will set a standard for guys like Auston Matthews, Eichel, etc.

Is Jack Eichel worth $10M on his second deal? This is how sports agents work. One of the commentators did mention he thinks the next CBA will limit contracts to a max length of five years.
 
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Okay so here is a good one regarding the Price contract.
MaxTheWhite said:
This is like the worst (or top 5 easy) worst sign ever ! **** its good for the rest of the league, but as a Habs fan I feel devastated... We should have traded him for a center ffs...

Now we're freaking doomed for the next 8 years with the most overrarted player of all time. In post-season, difference between Price and other goalie are marginal, ill go with a 3.5 million goalie and 7 million for more attack any freaking time...

When was the last time a overpaid goalie won a cup ?? Can you tell me the averge salarie of the last 8 cup stanley goalie ?? WTH ?!?! Guy didn't prove **** in po and we pay like he has won us 3 stanley cup ffs, give us at least one final in 10 years...

F u M-Bergevin, worst GM in this league right now.
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The problem with salaries is the likes of Russell, who are severely limited in what they offer, earning $4M+. They're not worth it. See Orpik in Washington. Montreal will regret that Alzner contract in the near future as well.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
The problem with salaries is the likes of Russell, who are severely limited in what they offer, earning $4M+. They're not worth it. See Orpik in Washington. Montreal will regret that Alzner contract in the near future as well.
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You're going to have a tough time convincing the rank and file members of the NHLPA a star is worth 10 times what they are getting.

As I said, this isn't the NBA. The stars in the NHL need a deep roster in order to not only win, but to be protected.

More directly to your point. Another reason guaranteed contracts need to be eliminated is guys like Russell should be cut loose if a rookie can do their job for less money.
 
kovacro said:
Good luck having the NHLPA buy in to non guaranteed contracts.
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Yeah, they said the same thing about the salary cap, and then they said it about the 50/50 revenue split.

How did those turn out?
 
Dallas went on a full blow shopping spree this summer. Radulov gets 5 Years/31.25 with a $6.25M AAV. Is there a cap in Dallas?
 
KINGS17 said:
Yeah, they said the same thing about the salary cap, and then they said it about the 50/50 revenue split.

How did those turn out?
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I don't see what's in it for the PA to get rid of guaranteed contracts?

Veteran players losing their jobs to cheaper younger kids. Don't think a fair majority of guys would be to happy about that. Especially guys that want to maximize their time in the league to collect a nice NHL pension. I'm sure pension was a pretty important component in the last CBA.

The PA is going to do everything they can to ensure veteran established players are protected.
 
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Marcus Kruger to Carolina isn't done yet but talks pretty far along on this front. @BrianHedger first to report Vegas flipping Kruger.


Good shutdown center, has great numbers for defensive zone starts , so I guess he'd be a good fit on their 4th line. He's one of the toughest shutdown guys in the NHL and I guess on a young team on the rise, that kind of presence will go a long way.
 
KINGS17 said:
Okay so here is a good one regarding the Price contract.
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He's like your twin or something.

What teams are out there that are in need of a #1 goalie, have the assets to attempt such a trade, and then have the cap space to sign him? Its easy to say we should trade Stamkos or Price or Kopitar because the return would be massive, but in reality there is no team that would be willing to gut their franchise for one player especially for a goalie.

I agree that Price's contract is ridiculous because Price doesn't play every game. And especially because he hasn't done squat in the playoffs. But at the end of the day, are the Habs better with or without Price? Their collapse when he was out injured makes it pretty clear. And I mentioned it earlier with McDavid and Draisaitl, the agent doesn't give a rat's ass about the team and only cares about his client and in this case, like McDavid and Draisaitl, Price holds all the cards. These kind of deals will be 100% brought up in the CBA, but that's a long way off and GM's just have to deal with it.
 
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