Around the League '15-'16: The Coaches Are WRONG Edition

[deeshamrock]

To be fair no D in the last 10 years has panned out in Edmonton.
And you have to wonder how bad they screwed him up.

Agree. He's still young enough with a good system, good coach and some structure to reclaim what his promise appeared to be.

 

[Omni Owl]

**** the ****ing Oilers for squandering away so much good talent.

 

[deeshamrock]

**** the ****ing Oilers for squandering away so much good talent.

It almost defies logic...yet it's the one thing they are very good at...

 

[deeshamrock]

The NHL should really get rid of players like Reeves. Even the dumbest hockey player knows you don't hit a player in the numbers when they are against the boards.

He lives to maim another day....just not until next week.


NHL Player Safety ‏@NHLPlayerSafety · 55m55 minutes ago

St. Louis’ Ryan Reaves suspended three games for boarding San Jose’s Matt Tennyson. Video: http://******/YIt5s

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Three is good, wish it were more.

I think Reaves gets a bit of a bum rap, he's mostly a clean, just vicious, hitter, but when a guy like that whose only purpose is to hit starts skirting the edges, he draws (rightfully, imo) more ire than most because he can't do anything else. But in a physical game, he's bringing an RPG to a knife fight, only other guy in his world is Big Buff.

 

[tsanuri]

**** the ****ing Oilers for squandering away so much good talent.

They have actually be cursed by as it were too much luck on picking first. The wisdom is always take the best pick at the spot. Well at a young age forwards are better than D in most cases. So if they take the best pick they end up with a forward.
If they are honest about trying to do things differently they will trade the number 1 pick if they get it again this year. So they can draft a D at whatever pick they get.

 

[Reclamation Project]

The Oilers need to rebuild the rebuild of their rebuild.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

They have actually be cursed by as it were too much luck on picking first. The wisdom is always take the best pick at the spot. Well at a young age forwards are better than D in most cases. So if they take the best pick they end up with a forward.
If they are honest about trying to do things differently they will trade the number 1 pick if they get it again this year. So they can draft a D at whatever pick they get.

I agree. NOt that I feel bad for them in this way, but it's sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. How stupid do they look trading away the Taylor Hall pick, for example? What teams are lining up to give away, say, an OEL/Seth Jones/Ekblad type for a #1 pick, because anything less would be poor value for the Oilers, as well...it's a tough scenario to be in but I think Chiarelli is better prepared/experienced to handle it than the others. I hate to say 'give it some time' but they weren't going to work one year miracles with a new staff, especially with some of the old attitudes. Now they know what they have, what their personalities are, and what they need, so I'd expect some MAJOR player slinging to happen and next year's Oilers (I know, I know) to be a playoff team.

 

[tsanuri]

I agree. NOt that I feel bad for them in this way, but it's sort of a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. How stupid do they look trading away the Taylor Hall pick, for example? What teams are lining up to give away, say, an OEL/Seth Jones/Ekblad type for a #1 pick, because anything less would be poor value for the Oilers, as well...it's a tough scenario to be in but I think Chiarelli is better prepared/experienced to handle it than the others. I hate to say 'give it some time' but they weren't going to work one year miracles with a new staff, especially with some of the old attitudes. Now they know what they have, what their personalities are, and what they need, so I'd expect some MAJOR player slinging to happen and next year's Oilers (I know, I know) to be a playoff team.

I just don't understand how they didn't get Jones when Nashville was willing to trade him. They had to have the pieces to make the move to get him. Unless Pole just didn't want to trade him within the conference and made the price too high.

 

[Steve Zissou]

Three is good, wish it were more.

I think Reaves gets a bit of a bum rap, he's mostly a clean, just vicious, hitter, but when a guy like that whose only purpose is to hit starts skirting the edges, he draws (rightfully, imo) more ire than most because he can't do anything else. But in a physical game, he's bringing an RPG to a knife fight, only other guy in his world is Big Buff.

That's what I thought... until he saw Kopitar coming around the net and speared him with a butt end straight to the jaw. That's some dirty **** right there to an unsuspecting star player.

**** Reaves.

 

[YP44]

I just don't understand how they didn't get Jones when Nashville was willing to trade him. They had to have the pieces to make the move to get him. Unless Pole just didn't want to trade him within the conference and made the price too high.

I think I read that nashville held out for Johansen. Was rumored Edmonton offered RNH but nashville valued the size of Johansen over the skill of RNH.

If I am Edmonton I agree with you. I add what I need to on RNH to get Jones.

 

[YP44]

Sutter, on plus-minus as a statistic:
It goes through your team. I think if your team is all pluses, and somebody’s a real bad minus, that shows up, and if your team is all right in the middle or a minus, and somebody’s a really high plus, that shows up. That’s where it does make a difference. …

I liked this on nhlinsider.com. I agree when it comes to +/- it is a team stat except for the outliers on the team. I immediately thought of JMFJ

 

[kingsholygrail]

Sutter, on plus-minus as a statistic:
It goes through your team. I think if your team is all pluses, and somebody’s a real bad minus, that shows up, and if your team is all right in the middle or a minus, and somebody’s a really high plus, that shows up. That’s where it does make a difference. …

I liked this on nhlinsider.com. I agree when it comes to +/- it is a team stat except for the outliers on the team. I immediately thought of JMFJ

Yup. The stat has its uses.

 

[Stimpythecat]

Yup yup. Outliers are something to note.

 

[DocWest]

Oilers fans love draft parties more than Playoff runs. Management is just giving them what they want.

 

[TonySCV]

Dear Sharks and Ducks, please lose to Buffalo and Colo... LOL who am I kidding.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Impressive save.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Benning just acquired a 26 year old defenseman from the Oilers, lmao. For his next move, he's gonna acquire a 32 year old goaltender from the Stars.

Impressive save.

Richards getting it on net is basically a goal.

 

[KingsKnight]

That new main board Karlsson thread makes me want to give Sens fans the Norris for being so defensive.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Journal Entry 2/24/16 - Erik Karlsson is NOT a 4th forward

Dear diary, as you know, NOTHING irritates me more than people calling Karlsson a fourth forward: it is plainly inaccurate to anyone who watches him play on more than an occasional basis.

Over and out.​

 

[Stimpythecat]

Impressive save.

Nifty.

Reminds me of that behind the back SO save by Quick.

 

[kingsholygrail]

Anaheim will never lose another game again.

 

[kingskring]

Anaheim will never lose another game again.

unless its the kings

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

unless its the kings

Or it's a playoff game.

 

[onlyalad]

Anaheim will never lose another game again.

they could still lose tonight
Sabers are playing horrid and are only down by one.
One icing play that hits a board funny
one clearing pass that hits a skate
one stupid over the glass penalty with 2 minutes left
one number one overall draft pick making a good pass to another number one overall draft pick