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Around the League '15-'16: The Coaches Are WRONG Edition

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Raccoon Jesus said:
I just don't understand the thinking--and it's not just for Karlsson--that scoring a metric buttload of points is great even if you're letting even more in. Karlsson in particular is on the ice for the most goals for 5v5--but also the most against by a significant margin.

I think the argument sort of makes sense to an extent--that finding offensive players is more valuable than defense because, well, anyone in the NHL can play D but not everyone can just 'score more.' I think that's oversimplified, but ok--i'll concede that. But when the chances you take lead to chances against...

It's also frustrating because Karlsson CAN play good defense. It's just not his focus. I just don't like that he gets the benefit of the doubt--"Wow, what great offensive numbers' when talking about his offense and 'poor karlsson, asked to carry the team, of course he'll make mistakes' on D. No other d-man gets that bailout.
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Imagine if LA had drafted him too in 2007? Crawford would've ripped him apart, and made the angry rants at JMFJ seem like a quite conversation.
 
Could give a **** about the Norris, all I care about are cups and I'm sure Doughty would agree.
 
SettlementRichie10 said:
I don't have a huge issue with Sens fans saying Karlsson is better. Who knows, he may be. Doughty has been absolutely intregal in bringing the Kings championships, and I wouldn't trade him for anyone in the league.

I will say, though, that last year's Norris was a total fleecing. Doughty deserved it considering the load he was forced to carry here with the Voynov situation.
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I don't have a problem with anyone saying that if they can make a case that isn't simply "POINTS!!1!" I do have a problem with people saying "and it's not even close," shouting down any criticism, and cheapening anyone else's abilities ("if Drew wins it this year it's just because he's Canadian and they're itching to give it to him").

I actually have no issue with Karlsson winning it last year as he was the guy with the LEAST warts of all d-men, but it certainly wasn't a runaway, he had his issues too (first third of the season he was awful), and I think a VERY fair argument can be made that it was Giordano's to lose...and he got hurt.

I more have an issue with HOW Drew lost it as it illustrated the PWHA's glaring ignorance as a group.
 
SettlementRichie10 said:
I don't have a huge issue with Sens fans saying Karlsson is better. Who knows, he may be. Doughty has been absolutely intregal in bringing the Kings championships, and I wouldn't trade him for anyone in the league.

I will say, though, that last year's Norris was a total fleecing. Doughty deserved it considering the load he was forced to carry here with the Voynov situation.
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I don't either, Karlsson is a great player. My problem is the "Karlsson and AINEC" crap. They would literally say you must know nothing about hockey to even suggest anyone else is even on Karlsson's level. That's just pure garbage
 
ScoreZeGoals said:
I don't either, Karlsson is a great player. My problem is the "Karlsson and AINEC" crap. They would literally say you must know nothing about hockey to even suggest anyone else is even on Karlsson's level. That's just pure garbage
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Some even suggest he should be the MVP because he's putting all those points for a defenseman, discarding what Kane and Holtby are doing.

Right now, it's Kane's to lose.
 
ScoreZeGoals said:
Weal backed to being scratched
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Yeesh.

I didn't see his game but it doesn't seem like he was a liability or anything.

Guy just isn't going to stick, it seems. Unfortunate, because from all indications he has the right attitude, it just isn't working.
 
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I've noticed that some teams have their own local broadcast even when it's an NBCSN game. But it never happens for the Kings. Is it FSW being cheap? "Hey Kings fans, NBCSN has the game so let us have the night off."
 
Finally guess I pissed someone off, by all things because of calling out Varlamov haha. I woke up to the below private message.

"It's funny you refer to Varlamov as a piece of ****, yet cheer for a team that employed Voynov, the guy who was ACTUALLY guilty of his crimes.


You're a ****ing loser, just like your Kings fan base."

made me chuckle
 
YP44 said:
Finally guess I pissed someone off, by all things because of calling out Varlamov haha. I woke up to the below private message.

"It's funny you refer to Varlamov as a piece of ****, yet cheer for a team that employed Voynov, the guy who was ACTUALLY guilty of his crimes.


You're a ****ing loser, just like your Kings fan base."

made me chuckle
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IF VV didn't get caught we could still cheer for him I guess.
 
I think we post like the Kings play hockey. We can't draw any calls because we play the game hard, no quarter given or asked for.
 
Wideman says that he was keeled over and didn't see him until it was too late. He's a ****ing liar. I hope the league goes to the library and throws every goddamn book they can find at him.
 
Old Man Willie said:
Wideman says that he was keeled over and didn't see him until it was too late. He's a ****ing liar. I hope the league goes to the library and throws every goddamn book they can find at him.
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disagree. When i saw it last night i thought people were making too big of a deal about it. He saw the linesman at the last minute...that is all.
He apologized the next shift.
If it was intentional I agree, but I truly do not think it was. I do not think he is that stupid.
 
YP44 said:
disagree. When i saw it last night i thought people were making too big of a deal about it. He saw the linesman at the last minute...that is all.
He apologized the next shift.
If it was intentional I agree, but I truly do not think it was. I do not think he is that stupid.
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I can't see any way that it wasn't intentional. He definitely wasn't keeled over. I can't tell exactly where he's looking because the camera was behind him. The way his head was positioned he's either looking at the bench or the linesman. I don't really buy the "he's not that stupid" defense.
 
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