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I'm going to disagree. Listening to Shanahan explain the incident the hit seemed legal and to me reminiscent of the Steven's hit on Lindros.
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I'm going to disagree. Listening to Shanahan explain the incident the hit seemed legal and to me reminiscent of the Steven's hit on Lindros.
Interesting, your description is different than Shanny's. That isn't to say that I doubt you, that isn't unusual that what we see is different than his.
Now I will have to take a look.
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Hit is borderline late, but not egregious. His skates leave the ice surface, but only after contact is made, which happens quite a bit. Not exactly the same as launching. First contact is to the head, so I don't know what to make of that. Elbow doesn't come up or out.
I want to be appalled/outraged, believe me. I am no fan of Jordan Nolan and I retain quite a bit of affection for Rusty.
I want to be appalled/outraged, believe me. I am no fan of Jordan Nolan and I retain quite a bit of affection for Rusty.
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Toronto Marlies twitter reporting that the Marlies have signed former CBJ prospect Stefan Legein to a PTO.
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42 million for RNH from the Oilers. Yes, I know Hall and Eberle set the bar but ay caramba that a lot of cash for someone still developing.
With GMs holding all the leverage in RFA situations, I don't get why the rush to sign pending RFA's early. MacT is new to this, but Howson should have learned his lesson from Mason and Brassard. Oh well, this gamble is the Oilers' issue, not ours.
With GMs holding all the leverage in RFA situations, I don't get why the rush to sign pending RFA's early. MacT is new to this, but Howson should have learned his lesson from Mason and Brassard. Oh well, this gamble is the Oilers' issue, not ours.
You hit the Nail (ha!) on the head. Clearly Howson is repeating the same mistakes he made here.
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Figure Nail is in for 6 too,as well as Justin Schultz and they'll have 5 guys at 30 mill for a long time. If the cap rises (like the sun it always does) and if they all live up to potential they could be in good shape. RNH & Hall seem to have a bit of the injury bug so that could be a problem. It will be interesting.
As for Howson repeating the mistakes, I look forward to the comments from the pro-Scott crowd.
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Never underestimate the intelligence and creativity of a hockey enforcer
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/19/fight-no-helmets/related/
And here's another example of a seemingly over-reaction suspension to Adam Erne
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/19/nhl-suspends-bolts-erne-three-preseason-games/
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/19/fight-no-helmets/related/
And here's another example of a seemingly over-reaction suspension to Adam Erne
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/09/19/nhl-suspends-bolts-erne-three-preseason-games/
And why did we bring up Howson's name? He's not the boss over there.
The market is screwed on RFA's. There is little point in complaining about it now. There isn't a lot of benefit to your players beyond the ELC anymore.
We have no right to complain, we signed Bob to that idiotic contract. It least it was only two years and he has a Vezina - even if should have an asterisk next to it's name because of the severely shortened season.
They clearly paid RHN for year one and not year two, well that and he was a #1 pick. He is pretty poor taking faceoffs. On top of that we signed Horton for 5.3 million. He's not really a goal scorer to his point. He's not even in the same realm of Stamkos yet.
I would wish them luck, but I don't really like the Oilers.
We've to Johansen coming up. I'd like to see him improve to around a 4.5 million contract, but not up to the 6+ area yet. We the league leaves all those big contracts out to players that haven't earned them yet, it's hard to keep your own players under control.
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I'd like to see Joey perform to a 4.5 level this year but no way should he get 4.5 nextcontract. IF he has a 50 pt season to me that would make him comparable (on the lower end) to Duchesne, Kadri & Stepan - 2yr bridge 3 mill or so, tops.
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Yeah, there is a disconnect from what I wrote to what you replied. I don't really care to debate it further. I will say read my post, closely this time. Specifically that second sentence.
What I will say is that the only name in your list that is remotely relevant to this point is Kadri. Stepan might be, but he's on the sideline right now and we won't know for sure until he signs and we see what Johansen does. However, if you want to J/K to play hardball and risk holdouts; I'm ok with that.
Let's not pretend there is much difference, in context, between "3 million, tops" and 4.5 million.
There are many things to consider, including term. I didn't even say that I wanted a bridge contract.
Figure Nail is in for 6 too,as well as Justin Schultz and they'll have 5 guys at 30 mill for a long time. If the cap rises (like the sun it always does) and if they all live up to potential they could be in good shape. RNH & Hall seem to have a bit of the injury bug so that could be a problem. It will be interesting.
As for Howson repeating the mistakes, I look forward to the comments from the pro-Scott crowd.
Oh that's me! I think its a good gamble by the Oilers. They could have gotten away with paying RNH a much lower amount of money by using bridge contracts, but the real risk they're trying to avoid is having these guys go on the UFA market during the championship window. When you are contending for the cup you would feel like an idiot if you lost Nuge because he was playing like Sakic and you couldn't afford to pay him $9 million a year. There's risk on the other side that Nuge won't be that great, of course, but they have enough talent that I think they should be focused on maximizing their chances of winning the cup.
Eh, I do think there is a big difference between those numbers, and I don't even think Johansen will deserve $3 million.
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Better go back and re-read the original post.You'll see where you're wrong. I did.
As Sr. Vice President of Hockey Operations, you'd better believe he had more than a small say in the matter.
Better go back and re-read the original post.You'll see where you're wrong. I did.
Can someone just kindly explain to me what I'm missing here?
but a smaller say than at least a couple other guys. Attributing any bad contracts signed in EDM to Howson and his "past mistakes" is a considerable stretch. And let me guess, any good contracts there would not get the benefit of that association, right?
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http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/09/21/pens-g-vokoun-out-following-blood-clot-procedure/
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/09/21/pens-g-vokoun-out-following-blood-clot-procedure/
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See, now you're catching on to how a hivemind works. Love the current CBJ team? Ignore the guy who acquired every single player on the ice except for Marian Gaborik; it must be other people who deserve credit.
Just watch. In two more years, the only draft pick Howson will get credit for is Nikita Filatov, while everyone else (who may or may not have been around at the time) will get the credit for Jenner, Atkinson, Johansen, and everyone else. The only trade anyone will remember is Carter and Klesla, while everyone else will be fondly remembered for the time that they acquired Bobrovsky.
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