Speculation: Armchair GM Thread

[Kat Predator]

It is a farce, the Stamkos, Marchessault, and Saros contracts already proved that. It was simply a line he used to take a poke at Duchene, a guy he didn't like.

There is a sick irony to that.

I believe Duchene and his family really like the area and still live in/near Nashville. So they were planning to "retire" here, put down roots, and be ambassadors to and a part of the community as a whole. That's why what Trotz did was so gut wrenching to his entire family.

But the irony is Duchene, with whatever gifts and defects you want to list, is still a player that wants to come to the rink, works hard, and wants to win. He chose Dallas since it was close to the place he wanted as his forever home.

The more you look at it, it's hard not to see it as a petty, wee dick move.

 

[Armourboy]

There is a sick irony to that.

I believe Duchene and his family really like the area and still live in/near Nashville. So they were planning to "retire" here, put down roots, and be ambassadors to and a part of the community as a whole. That's why what Trotz did was so gut wrenching to his entire family.

But the irony is Duchene, with whatever gifts and defects you want to list, is still a player that wants to come to the rink, works hard, and wants to win. He chose Dallas since it was close to the place he wanted as his forever home.

The more you look at it, it's hard not to see it as a petty, wee dick move.

Oh no doubt and since Trotz had never coached him it looks even more petty. It would be different if there was history there, like him and Radulov, but there is nothing.

I've also heard the ROR excuse, but frankly if that was the case that just makes me think less of ROR than anything else.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Oh no doubt and since Trotz had never coached him it looks even more petty. It would be different if there was history there, like him and Radulov, but there is nothing.

I've also heard the ROR excuse, but frankly if that was the case that just makes me think less of ROR than anything else.

My guess is since Duchene was filmed during the taxi incident of bad mouthing the coach trotz wouldn't take kindly to his kind here. Trotz is a coach roleplaying a general manager.

 

[Kat Predator]

My guess is since Duchene was filmed during the taxi incident of bad mouthing the coach trotz wouldn't take kindly to his kind here. Trotz is a coach roleplaying a general manager.

That's a thought.

If that was the real reason, it actually makes me think even less of Trotz.

 

[beardawg]

There is a sick irony to that.

I believe Duchene and his family really like the area and still live in/near Nashville. So they were planning to "retire" here, put down roots, and be ambassadors to and a part of the community as a whole. That's why what Trotz did was so gut wrenching to his entire family.

But the irony is Duchene, with whatever gifts and defects you want to list, is still a player that wants to come to the rink, works hard, and wants to win. He chose Dallas since it was close to the place he wanted as his forever home.

The more you look at it, it's hard not to see it as a petty, wee dick move.

It's obviously possible that there's a negative vibe/personality trait thing that Duchene gives off that maybe Trotz didn't feel he wanted in the locker room, but it truly was hard to hear Duchene's telling of events on how things unfolded. There's probably never been a free agent as high profile as him that truly wanted to come to Nashville to be in Nashville. It's a total bummer and should be absolutely be a question mark on GMBT's judgement

 

[Roman Yoshi]

Two sides to be very story but the way Duch said it makes you wonder. If you have a guy that wants to stay here and make a difference.... Makes a guy think.

 

[Kat Predator]

Two sides to be very story but the way Duch said it makes you wonder. If you have a guy that wants to stay here and make a difference.... Makes a guy think.

Well, you get a call one day. A friendly check-in. "How's it going? You ready?" "Hell, yes. Let's go," sort of thing. The next day you find out you've been bought out.

I think Trotz just wanted a piece of that contract back to go shopping for his cereal winners. If Duchene was a locker room cancer, it didn't show. I mean, he wasn't clearly coasting and getting healthy scratched like Turris was.

 

[hockey diva]

My guess is since Duchene was filmed during the taxi incident of bad mouthing the coach trotz wouldn't take kindly to his kind here. Trotz is a coach roleplaying a general manager.

And currently he is rolling all 1s

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[wmupreds]

Some rumours on ROR:

This is absolutely ridiculous. If you want to treat a guy like he has an NMC then give him an NMC and get a frigging cap hit discount. Otherwise the lack of protection is in itself telling the player he can be moved at any time.

Maybe more frustrating, is that this whole idea that these guys provide valuable leadership is getting us jack in terms of on ice results. If we actually let young guys play and be "mentored" there might be an argument, but otherwise this is stupid. If Trotz isn't learning from this season that the team needs talent and not more old high intangible guys, it's hopeless. ROR hasn't even been that good this year.

 

[NoNecksCurse]

Going back to the previous 9 NHL drafts, we had exactly 3 guys in last night's lineup from those drafts that we picked and developed. L'Heureux, Svechkov, and Stastney. If you go back 10 NHL drafts, you can add Novak to make it 4 guys.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

This is absolutely ridiculous. If you want to treat a guy like he has an NMC then give him an NMC and get a frigging cap hit discount. Otherwise the lack of protection is in itself telling the player he can be moved at any time.

Maybe more frustrating, is that this whole idea that these guys provide valuable leadership is getting us jack in terms of on ice results. If we actually let young guys play and be "mentored" there might be an argument, but otherwise this is stupid. If Trotz isn't learning from this season that the team needs talent and not more old high intangible guys, it's hopeless. ROR hasn't even been that good this year.

I'm sure O'Reilly will get that NMC on his upcoming extension. I wonder what that deal will look like? If Stamkos is worth 4x$8M...

 

[101st_fan]

One of Trotz's glaring problems is rushing to make moves that he doesn't have to. He had nine months until a TDL, almost 12 full months until Saros's contract expired ... but extended him at first opportunity. There was no need for Wedge with Askarov in the pipeline .... but he rushed again and pushed Askarov out. He inexplicably extended Fabbro last March when he was a routine scratch ... just to see him scratched this season .... then waived. From the outside there is no indication that he's letting things play out according to a plan. Knee jerk after knee jerk isn't a way to manage a roster.

 

[herzausstein]

I hope we get wrecked by all the other bottom feeders of the league. Maybe then itll wake trotz up as to what this team and coach actually are. Real change is needed. The core needs to be broken apart

 

[Viqsi]

Going back to the previous 9 NHL drafts, we had exactly 3 guys in last night's lineup from those drafts that we picked and developed. L'Heureux, Svechkov, and Stastney. If you go back 10 NHL drafts, you can add Novak to make it 4 guys.

Yikes. I knew it was bad but I didn't realize it was that bad.

By contrast, the Jackets' lineup the other night had 11 such guys. Plus two more if you count folks signed as undrafted free agents...

 

[Kat Predator]

Yikes. I knew it was bad but I didn't realize it was that bad.

By contrast, the Jackets' lineup the other night had 11 such guys. Plus two more if you count folks signed as undrafted free agents...

I think we have about 10-ish draft picks in the NHL for that draft range. Of course, most of them now play for other teams.

 

[Kat Predator]

Add: we have 0 NHL games played for any draft pick in the last 3 years. (Which is a good indication of just how unlikely it is to do a "quick tank" and unsink the ship in 3 years.)

The 2022 class looks like a complete washout, except possibly Kemell, who is the only one under contract. But Kemell looks like his stock has dropped like a rock in the AHL.

2023, we have Molendyk, Lind, and Roest signed and finishing out in the CHL. So they'll be the doughy kids stuck in the AHL oven for a while to overcook. Molendyk might not need to cook all the long, but we have a glut of LHD.

2024 will be a few more years of development.