Speculation: Armchair GM Thread

braindead

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Let's cut to the chase, if you still don't think Trotz has completely lost it just let me know now....
I don’t. Even with this dumpster fire of a season- easily the worst since Bruno scored that first franchise goal, and I’ve seen them all- this thing needs time to judge. Drafts need to be assessed. A team made in his image needs to be seen. He’s much more aggressive than Poile and I expect we will indeed wind up way one side or the other of the mush middle but I’m not ready to say it will be the wrong side.
 

glenngineer

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If we're going into a full-on rebuild (which you're describing, and which Trotz has specifically said he won't, by the way), RoR is one of the last guys one should give up. Not until he's a pending UFA at the earliest. The same sorts of middle-of-the-roster aging experienced vets that folks love for playoff renals are exactly the same sorts of guys you need to make sure kids are developing in a healthy environment. Don't let Bruno's dumbassery lead you to the misapprehension that we somehow have to get rid of them so the kids have room to thrive. That problem is solved by getting rid of the coach, not the vets.
He’s toast. He was slow last year. This year he looks like he’s skating thru molasses. The impact he had was on a guy like Vange last year was noticeable. I don’t see it this year.
 

NoNecksCurse

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Trading for Cozens will be a massive mistake. Put it in the pot of old takes that are bang on. You guys are about as bad at GM-ing as NoNeck at this point. We are the worst team in the league. You think a 2C at 7 million is what this organization needs after this past summer? The same group hating on Saros’ contract, now want Cozens? Seriously. We’re in the shit right now. No way around it. The only guy on this roster above the age of 28 I would care to keep is Forsberg. We have the worst team in the league while continually getting older. We have to get rid of these old, “core” guys that clearly will never get us where we want to be. It is a shame NoNeck gave out the contracts he did this past summer. He set us back 2-3 years even if we didn’t know it at the time. It is also a damn shame we have given away/squandered young guys that had promise or value at one point.
 

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Cozens is only 23 and we're getting a top 5 pick as well (barring anything tragically stupid). Stamkos' contract will be up before he's 26. Cozens, Hagens, ROR isn't the worst center depth to build with going forward, assuming the return isn't enormous
 

NoNecksCurse

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Cozens is only 23 and we're getting a top 5 pick as well (barring anything tragically stupid). Stamkos' contract will be up before he's 26. Cozens, Hagens, ROR isn't the worst center depth to build with going forward, assuming the return isn't enormous
You can’t bank on a top 3 pick. Assume that is where a C like Hagens goes? Have you seen how the past lottery odds have shaken out? This team is a long way from a top 3 pick, a 2C, and ROR who is getting slower by the month from being a contender imo. It’s going to take patience and we aren’t in a position to give up any decent assets for what gives me flashbacks to turris except Cozens has already been paid.
 

Bringer of Jollity

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Cozens is only 23 and we're getting a top 5 pick as well (barring anything tragically stupid). Stamkos' contract will be up before he's 26. Cozens, Hagens, ROR isn't the worst center depth to build with going forward, assuming the return isn't enormous
It seems silly to say considering the progress this far, but I'll actually be shocked if we end up drafting in the top 5. Even with our ramshackle defense and offensive inconsistency, some of these teams are really, really bad and are going to sink further as they offload talent that we are NMC'd into keeping. The catalog of #1 centers in the #8-12 range is probably going to be a bit thinner than we'd like.
 

Viqsi

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It seems silly to say considering the progress this far, but I'll actually be shocked if we end up drafting in the top 5. Even with our ramshackle defense and offensive inconsistency, some of these teams are really, really bad and are going to sink further as they offload talent that we are NMC'd into keeping. The catalog of #1 centers in the #8-12 range is probably going to be a bit thinner than we'd like.
That and as it becomes clearer and clearer that your team isn't good, opposing teams don't trot out their best against you, making it easier to get results. You start seeing more and more backup goaltenders, for example.
 
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“Tonight we made it too easy on them.

I wish I knew.” “Roll of the dice.”

LAUNCH THIS GUY INTO THE SUN. WHY IS HE STILL EMPLOYED, BARRY? LOSERS OF 7 OUT OF 8 OTs. HAVEN'T EVEN MADE IT TO A SHOOTOUT. WTF???

"Tonight we made it too easy on them," Predators coach Andrew Brunette said. "An elongated shift and then we turned it over three times. I know we're tired, but you wish you could get that back."

Overtime was not a major issue last season for the Predators − they finished 6-5 in the extra period and 3-0 in shootouts. This season they are 1-7 and have yet to participate in a shootout.

When asked for an explanation for this season's struggles, Brunette seemed to chalk it up to bad luck.

"I wish I knew," Brunette said. "If you look at all those games, we've had a chance to put the game away early ... but we don't and then they come down and score. If you looked at all our games last year, it was probably pretty similar, where they had a chance and then we got it back and scored. It's kind of a roll of the dice."
 

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