Are we in Canada paranoid about 2026 or should we not be worried?

* Byfield with his 20th goal of the season. I'm looking forward to that kid breaking out.

* As for LAF... :facepalm:

Kakko has done really well since getting out of N.Y..
LAF needs to do the same. The Rangers are a mess - from top to bottom.
 
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Crosby is still so good that I’m 99% sure Suzuki would get the boot to the 2nd line with PK duties in this hypothetical scenario. That’s not a knock on Suzuki. It’s just that Crosby is still a top 10-15 player in the NHL.

Nah, he wouldn't, the Suzuki like is like the perfect Lego, why break it up? Makes no sense.

Montreal's 2nd line in terms of production in 5 v 5 is the Gallagher-Dvorak-Anderson line. This is awful, lets be honest. Crosby with Demidov and Laine is a much more potent 2nd line, and Laine doesn't work Newhook or Dach are still there.

Now I get what you are saying, someone would have to take a step back to Crosby. But that's not Suzuki, its Slafkovski on the PP, and Crosby's line would play nearly as much as the first line. That would leave less ice time to the 4th line.
 
A buddy of mine and I did a mock list of the 2026 Canadian Olympic team. I will say one thing, when Canada had 50-60% of the NHLers instead of, say, 40-45% they do in 2024 the names rolled off of your tongue a little easier. But we still put together a pretty good team for Canada in 2026:

Hyman-McDavid-Marner
Byfield-MacKinnon-Point
Reinhart-Bedard-Stamkos
Marchand-Crosby-Stone
Suzuki/Barzal

Toews-Makar
Theodore-Pietrangelo
Rielly-Bouchard
Dobson-Power

Hill
Jarry
Binnington/Skinner
(Hart, we'll see how things work out for him)


The names aren't really up for debate so much, we all do this on other threads, but it is just a bit of a base for you to see. Things can change, Lafreniere could really bust out, as could another draftee from 2020-'23 like Fantilli or so other names. To be honest there are a lot coming up the pipe right now where we are in a bit of a transition seeing some of the old guard leaving. It is hard to imagine some of them Olympians today, but in 2 years I think so.

But we both sort of felt that perhaps 10, 15, 20 years ago the names would have come easier for us to think about. You look at the defense of the 2002 team and it is incredible. 2010 had a wicked defense, 2014 did, 2016 did. Players like Letang never got on these teams. Even in net when Roy backed out in 2002 we had Brodeur, Joseph and Belfour. No problems there. Also there were legit guys like Burke, Potvin, Luongo, Theodore, Turco and even Osgood who could have easily been a legit 3rd stringer.

Now, with all of that being said, once we started comparing the Canadian roster to the ones of other countries there was a lot more optimism. Sweden, Czech and Finland all have plenty of holes in their rosters and don't have the star power or depth of Canada. Russia I personally hope is back to playing as it is not the same without them, but as usual their defense is suspect at best, and I was surprised that their forwards weren't as dangerous of a group as I thought they might be. As for goaltending, no contest for them. They beat any other country hands down with this. Vasi, Shesterkin and Bobrovsky are better than any of our best. But the team in front of them wouldn't be able to handle Canada's firepower.

That leaves the U.S. team, and a team that I will admit is closing the gap. The Americans' goalies trump ours. But our forwards are deeper and definitely have more high end to them. Imagine having McDavid, MacKinnon, Bedard and even Crosby as the lines you can roll down the middle. Imagine not finding room for Scheifele (although he could make it), Marchand (perhaps) and others. Marchand could be too old by then and not able to keep up, but there are plenty coming down the pipe that are replacing him. Even the defense, I think we have the best defense out of anyone, even the U.S. I think it relies heavily on Makar for instance and we don't have another guy like him, but who does? I like Quinn Hughes on the U.S. but I still take Makar.

Bottom line what I am saying is we as Canadians get this feeling that things are over for us. I don't know why, but we always do. And yet every other country would kill to have that roster and would freak out to be playing against that group of forwards and mobile defense on the back end. All of our goalies are good capable goalies, maybe not Vezina winners, but there won't be a shortage of at least good goalies to choose from. That's all we need.

The 2023 draft was Canadian-laden, the 2024 draft especially in the 1st round is at least half Canadians, and the 2020-'23 drafts have been loaded with talent that will be on these teams. Players we aren't thinking about yet too.

So do we get paranoid in Canada over this stuff too much? Not that we can't improve our program or anything but do we worry about it too much? I can already name for sure at least 10 players on that Canadian team destined for the Hall of Fame.
Your Team is horrible.
 
Byfield's beauty is one of the most original goals I've seen since O.V. on his back. I have NEVER seen anything like THAT....



One handed with Wright hanging ALL over him.
 
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* Tavares with his 37th goal.

* Sid with his 36th.

* Morgan Geekie with his 30th goal.

* Matt Duchene with his 30th goal - we would have won the 4 Nations Cup if he'd been on Team Canada !!!! :(

* Nick Suzuki with a goal (28) and an assist.

* Stamkos with a pair of goals and an assist.

* Adam Fantilli with his 25th.

* Mavrik Bourque with his 11th goal - good for him.

* Fraser Minten with his 3rd goal.

* Dylan Guenther with 3 assists.

* Kent Johnson with a pair of assist.
 
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Dec. 31, 2025 deadline for roster selections per Lebrun. Not sure if that's often the standard but I do know the deadline has stretched into January before. Whatever the case it should be ~38+ games to evaluate, so can't complain. Bring on the battle!
 
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* Tom Wilson with his 33rd goal.

* Seth Jarvis with his 31st goal and a 32nd assist.

* Morgan Geekie with his 31st goal and 24 assist - not bad for a player averaging less than 17 minutes a night.

* Dylan Guenther with his 27th goal - he is not PPG but at only 17 minutes a night, it is only a matter of time.

* Jake DeBrusk with his 26th goal.

* Byfield with his 21st goal and 29th assist.

* Will Cuylle with his 19th goal and 23 assist.

* LAF with his 17th goal and 28th assist.

* Logan Stankoven with his 13th goal.

* Kevin Korchinski with his first goal.

* Josh Morrissey with his 46th and 47th assist.

* Mark Scheifele with his 47th assist.

* Connor Bedard with his 41st assist.
 
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Will Cuylle is an interesting player...

0.53 PPG playing only 15 minutes a game with next to NO power play time - only 3 PP points.

I hope he gets a chance to better himself instead of the same old players dominating time in New York.
 
Your Team is horrible.

To be fair that is a very old post of mine. Things changed with some of those players. We all assumed Bedard would make a bigger step and Stamkos was easily a bubble guy before he left Tampa. He's fallen off a cliff now, but he hadn't then. Just think, many of us have Celebrini on the 2026 team, but a year ago we had Bedard on there as well. Things can change in a year.
 
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* Byfield with a goal (22) and 2 assist.

* While LAF did not score with the Rangers, he did have 2 Shots On Goal. :facepalm:

* Seth Jarvis with a goal (32) and an assist.

* Wyatt Johnston with his 32nd goal. WHAT A BEAST !!!!! Oh, and by the way.... He's 21 !!!!

* Adam Fantilli with his 26th and 27th goal.

* Bo Horvat with his 27th goal.

* Jake DeBrusk with his 27th goal.

* Kent Johnson with a goal (23) and an assist.

* Connor Bedard with his 21st goal and an assist.

* Will Cuylle with his 20th goal.

* Carter Verhaeghe getting HOT just in time for the playoffs with his 19th goal and an assist.

* Shane Wright with his 19th goal.

* Colton Parayko with his 16th goal.

* Josh Morrisey with a pair of goals - 13th and 14th.

* Logan Stankoven with his 14th goal.

*****************************************************************************

Friday night....

* Sid with his 32nd goal and an assist.

* Kadri with his 32nd goal.

* Nick Suzuki with his 29th goal.

* Anthony Cirelli with his 27th goal and an assist.

* Drake Batherson with his 23rd goal

* Dylan Cozens with his 15th goal.

* Evan Bouchard with his 14th goal and an assist.

* Ridley Greig with his 13th goal and an assist.

* McDavid with 4 assists.
 
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Byfield has passed LAF. Cuylle has passed LAF, too. Some will say, "Everyone from the 2020 draft has passed LAF".
Maybe they're right. :(

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When Fantilli gets more consistent, he will be unstoppable - when he's on, he's just GREAT!

At what point do we question whether Fantilli has passed (or will be better long term than) Connor Bedard?
 
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Adam Fantilli with another TWO goals tonight for a total of 29. WOW!
And Fantilli (20) makes Wyatt Johnston (about to turn 22) look like an OLD man!!!

And, BTW, Fantilli only averaging 17 minutes a night.

Does Fantilli get a sniff of the Olympic team on the Left side?
 
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Adam Fantilli with another TWO goals tonight for a total of 29. WOW!
And Fantilli (20) makes Wyatt Johnston (about to turn 22) look like an OLD man!!!

And, BTW, Fantilli only averaging 17 minutes a night.

Does Fantilli get a sniff of the Olympic team on the Left side?
Fantilli is the bull that Team Canada needs. I’ve been a HUGE fan of his since his Chicago Steel Days.

He’s shown great progression from his rookie season. If he’s PPG or above by December. I find it hard for Team Canada to leave him off. Checks all the boxes of youth, skill, speed and size.
 
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I am so sick of the Sabres ruining young Canadian forwards...

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Adam Fantilli with another TWO goals tonight for a total of 29. WOW!
And Fantilli (20) makes Wyatt Johnston (about to turn 22) look like an OLD man!!!

And, BTW, Fantilli only averaging 17 minutes a night.

Does Fantilli get a sniff of the Olympic team on the Left side?
He’s the prototype Canada was desperatley lacking at the 4 nations ; even if his point totals aren’t as gaudy as some other candidates, he would be at the front the queue for me because of his ability to play with size, speed and physicality. When he’s on his game, like the game yesterday or the hat trick against the rangers, he looks like a new version of Malkin out there
 
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* Sam Reinhart with his 38th and 39th goal.

* Wyatt Johnson with his 33 goal.

* Jake DeBrusk with his 28th goal.

* Celebrini with his 25th goal.

* Byfield with his 23rd goal.

* Bedard with his 43rd assist.

* Matthew Wood with his FIRST assist.
 
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UPDATED Forwards for the Olympic Roster heading into playoffs:

Fantilli-McDavid-Marner
Crosby-MacKinnon-Point
Hagel-Cirelli-Thomas
Bennett-Celebrini-Wilson
Johnston-Suzuki

MUCH bigger team. You’ve taken out Marchand and Konecny for Fantilli and Wilson. Fantilli on the 1st line may be bold, but it shouldn’t be a problem when playing with those 2 guys. He also has the speed to play with McDavid, something I think Reinhart lacked at 4-Nations (ultimately replaced by Point).

Jarvis could easily be here. In my opinion, it’s better to give other youth a chance. He’ll be a Team Canada staple in future tournaments.
 
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UPDATED Forwards for the Olympic Roster heading into playoffs:

Fantilli-McDavid-Marner
Crosby-MacKinnon-Point
Hagel-Cirelli-Thomas
Bennett-Celebrini-Wilson
Johnston-Suzuki

MUCH bigger team. You’ve taken out Marchand and Konecny for Fantilli and Wilson. Fantilli on the 1st line may be bold, but it shouldn’t be a problem when playing with those 2 guys. He also has the speed to play with McDavid, something I think Reinhart lacked at 4-Nations (ultimately replaced by Point).

Jarvis could easily be here. In my opinion, it’s better to give other youth a chance. He’ll be a Team Canada staple in future tournaments.
GREAT team but why Cirelli? IIRC, he disappointed at the 4NC.

I'd dump Cirelli, bump Celebrini to the third line center position and put Jarvis on the 4th line - Jarvis is on fire and playing GREAT.
 

Only in Canada...​

NDP leader calls to reschedule tomorrow’s election debate because it conflicts with the Habs game​

 
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