Are the Leafs a better TEAM without Matthews?

[Evilhomer]

I mean he was posting that New Jersey was taking all perimeter shots in the first period, when posters were showing that the shots were indeed high danger shots, and still could not admit he was wrong lol

I was saying that Jersey's shots were really not all that dangerous regardless of the number or where they were from, and then others pointed out today that on re-watching the game they noticed that the Leafs did a good job of collapsing down low and not really allowing prime chances in close. That is part of Berube's system. Of course Stolartz also did his job, but both things can be true at the same time. Jersey did very little in the dirty areas of the ice, which is to be expected because that is not the type of team they have.

 

[LeafEgo]

In carreer outside of habs series so in 47 of his 54 playoff game, Nylander had 1 5v5 goal against any opposite top 6 line and it was a bad angle shot who never should goes in.... and like 3 to 5 assist.

If that's true, the parameters keep changing, I don't think it matters much if it was the second or third line on the ice when he got the game winner in the third period against Boston or what should have been the game winner in the third period in game 7 a few months ago.

He was just the guy we could put over the boards to win us the game.

 

[Apex Predator]

positive regression is coming soon. he's not going to keep shooting around 10-11 % all season. he will bounce back. patience is key and it seems many on these broads dont have it.

To be fair I think a lot of people have been more than patient with the leafs. After 8 years of playoff failure patience runs a bit thin.

 

[Dekes For Days]

I was saying that Jersey's shots were really not all that dangerous regardless of the number or where they were from, and then others pointed out today that on re-watching the game they noticed that the Leafs did a good job of collapsing down low and not really allowing prime chances in close. That is part of Berube's system. Of course Stolartz also did his job, but both things can be true at the same time. Jersey did very little in the dirty areas of the ice, which is to be expected because that is not the type of team they have.

But their shots were dangerous. They did get prime chances in close. They did quite a bit in the dirty areas of the ice. They were not perimeter. You said that you didn't even watch most of it, and you seem to be basing your position on your flawed perception of what New Jersey (the team with the most high danger shots in the league, by far) is, instead of what actually happened.

 

[Racer88]

To be fair I think a lot of people have been more than patient with the leafs. After 8 years of playoff failure patience runs a bit thin.

I wish I could like this post 10 times

 

[thusk]

If that's true, the parameters keep changing, I don't think it matters much if it was the second or third line on the ice when he got the game winner in the third period against Boston or what should have been the game winner in the third period in game 7 a few months ago.

He was just the guy we could put over the boards to win us the game.

1- Top 6 including first and second line

2-Yes i'm agree he scored important goal a but actually 4 of his last 5 goal was more luck than something he really created ( so his last 2 series). But yeah he scored those goal.

3-If you get a 11,5M who can't playing against a top 6 line, that's put a lot of pressure of everyone else on the roster and you're better to have a pretty solid 3 and 4th line. Also mean he can't play in a line with matthews because those player will plsy a lot vs opp top 6 and so making you pretty linited with your option

4-Like i said everybody need to be better

 

[notbias]

They're not, but it's no question there's a fck ton of bad habits surrounding this team when Matthews plays.

Part of me wonders if it's because Matthews is more limited than most superstars. He reminds of of Anthony Davis in that regard.

He's got a great shot, but he's not like Drai or Ovi, who have a signature spot.

He's more limited because he is more versatile in how he scores?

Can you expand on this?

I'd say Matthews is one of the most complete stars in the game, he does everything well.

 

[arso40]

1- Top 6 including first and second line

2-Yes i'm agree he scored important goal a but actually 4 of his last 5 goal was more luck than something he really created ( so his last 2 series)

3-If you get a 11,5M who can't playing against a top 6 line, that's put a lot of pressure of everyone else on the roster and you're better to have a pretty solid 3 and 4th line

4-Like i said everybody need to be better

I guess he’s had a clover in the playoffs and I don’t see how he can’t play against top 6 players he’s been doing that since a rookie and yes everyone needs to be better especially him