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Are Stamkos and Tavares both locks for Team Canada?

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BlueBaron said:
I think it's a game of inches thing. I could counter with JT's insane faceoff percentage.
You are now basically presenting a new case,so now it's because he's right handed and more of a goal scorer? That might work out but considering the huge number of factors they will have to take into consideration it could go several ways. I'm not going to add up all the right handed shots but if you figure that and Stamkos's extra goal this year will be all the difference I won't argue with you, but it doesn't sound very decisive to me.
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Career average of 52.3% is considered insane? Or are you just using recency bias? By comparison Crosby's career average is 52%, Stamkos 49.8%, ROR 55.7%, Bergeron 57.5%

So JT is about on par with Sid, slightly ahead of Stamkos...but behind ROR and Bergeron. So does he make team Canada? I think he definitely does, but it's not because of his "insane faceoff percentage"
 
Stamkos is looking likely right now because his power play expertise.

Tavares is hard to say, I don't really see him as bringing much unique to the team and his lack of foot speed could work against him. I think some GM's would have him on the team and some won't.
 
Stamkos is def gonna make it.

Tavares should make it as a depth forward. Tavares is not a lock to start and a chance he does not even make it. He def is not a top 4 Canadian center.
 
RSPens said:
Career average of 52.3% is considered insane? Or are you just using recency bias? By comparison Crosby's career average is 52%, Stamkos 49.8%, ROR 55.7%, Bergeron 57.5%

So JT is about on par with Sid, slightly ahead of Stamkos...but behind ROR and Bergeron. So does he make team Canada? I think he definitely does, but it's not because of his "insane faceoff percentage"
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"Recency bias" is not really a thing with something like faceoff percentage that players can substantially improve over time. How Tavares did as a kid means nothing for his current faceoff prowess. His numbers since joining the Leafs have been consistently good.

Not saying that means anything for his chances at being selected though.
 
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RSPens said:
Career average of 52.3% is considered insane? Or are you just using recency bias? By comparison Crosby's career average is 52%, Stamkos 49.8%, ROR 55.7%, Bergeron 57.5%

So JT is about on par with Sid, slightly ahead of Stamkos...but behind ROR and Bergeron. So does he make team Canada? I think he definitely does, but it's not because of his "insane faceoff percentage"
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Tavares wasnt great on faceoffs earlier in his career but worked hard on them and has become one of the better faceoff guys in the league.

2017-2018: 52.9%
2018-2019: 54.5%
2019-2020: 55.3%
2020-2021: 55.3%
Current season so far: 60%

No need to throw a negative spin on it. Tavares is a beast on faceoffs.
 
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Most points by Canadian players this year:

1. McDavid
2. Kadri
3. Stamkos
4. Huberdeau
5. Tavares
 
TheDoldrums said:
"Recency bias" is not really a thing with something like faceoff percentage that players can substantially improve over time. How Tavares did as a kid means nothing for his current faceoff prowess.

Not saying that means anything for his chances at being selected though.
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Sure about that? 2010/11 he was 52.54% Didn't get above 52% again until 2014/15, down to 50.61% in 2016/17. Last year he was 55.28% which admittedly looks like his new average. I guarantee that his current 60% is not sustainable. So yes he can be one of the best or he can be average. Tavares is not going to make team Canada because of his FO%. If he makes the team it's because he has other qualities that the management is looking for. If Canada just takes their best 13/14 forwards, then JT is a lock. But Canada always likes to "big brain" things and bring role players at times. Heck, Kunitz played for team Canada simply because he was Sid's line mate in the NHL.
 
Kadri and Barzal make Team Canada ahead of Marner and Tavares.

Hockey Canada are very big on Barzal and Kadri is playing out of his mind this year. One will be the 13th forward while the other plays a shutdown role.
 
SeanMoneyHands said:
Kadri and Barzal make Team Canada ahead of Marner and Tavares.

Hockey Canada are very big on Barzal and Kadri is playing out of his mind this year. One will be the 13th forward while the other plays a shutdown role.
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Cringiest attention seeking comment I have seen in this thread.
 
I would have them both on. I wouldn't have been as confident in that statement before the year, but both have played at an extremely high level and have earned spots.

Stamkos in particular provides a much needed skill to the team, which is that PP one-timer. Canada has a lot of playmakers and I think Stamkos is needed on PP1. Tavares being a net front guy on the PP helps his odds too.
 
Menzinger said:
Look no further than Pronger during the Turin Olympics. So many unnecessary penalties
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There may have been many bad selections in 2006 - Bettuzzi, Redden, McCabe, Draper, Smyth, Foote - but Chris Pronger will never be considered one of them.

2006 was just a strange year.
 
lbj23 said:
Seems to be a debate going on currently on tsn where the guys are saying it could come down to Stamkos or Tavares making the team? I think they are both making it, what says you guys?
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Nope.

I don't think the NHLPA will go there.

The 3 week quarantine rule will make most players shy away. Imagine heading into the last week of the Olympics, testing "positive" then being told you can not leave for 3 weeks?

No way, no how will players surrender their freedoms.
 
Both should be on the team. JT was already on in 2014 when NHLers last went to the Olympics so I wonder if some familiarity would be there to give him an inside edge. Stamkos' performance so far should also get him in.
 
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