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Exactly my point. That's as stupid as the deal in the proposal.
Which is exactly my point.
Value of: arber xhekaj to nj
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So the Habs should say yes to the proposal?
The reason Habs are saying no is because Severson is a soon to be UFA that doesn't fit the rebuilding Habs needs. On top of that Xhekaj is a unique dman who is developing at a rapid pace in all facets of his game and is a rookie with many more years of service to the Habs whilst under team control. Oh and he can punch faces but that's the bonus.
Makes absolutely ZERO sense for the Habs to make this trade. If that is hilarious to you then you need to work on your sense of humor.
It’s now known in the league Xhekaj plays physical and can fight.
What is not know yet: he’s mobile, good 1st pass and hes also capable offensively.
That’s why we value him that much .
What is not know yet: he’s mobile, good 1st pass and hes also capable offensively.
That’s why we value him that much .
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These are the kinds of trades acquiring teams regret deeply more often then not. Trading for a rookie at peak value is never a good idea.
Trading for a guy before there’s expectations on him and the league has the book on him comes with quite a bit of risk.
Trading for a guy before there’s expectations on him and the league has the book on him comes with quite a bit of risk.
SupremeTeam16
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These are the kinds of trades acquiring teams regret deeply more often then not. Trading for a rookie at peak value is never a good idea.
Trading for a guy before there’s expectations on him and the league has the book on him comes with a lot of risk.
Trading for a guy before there’s expectations on him and the league has the book on him comes with a lot of risk.
Intangir
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Trading for Xhekaj right now would require pry-away value because of the rapid progression he's shown, the unique qualities he has as a player (size, snarl, skating, smarts), and the potential upside he has being very intriguing.
And in that sense, any trade for Xhekaj would be truly unpalatable for NJ, also with quite some amount of risk involved since as you've said Xhekaj has yet to play enough NHL games to really show his true standard of play.
I mean no disrespect, but where I have some issues with your post is in your use of the term "peak" when it comes to defining Wifi's value. Without getting too ahead of myself here, I personally think it is WAY too premature to outright state that Xhekaj's trade value will never grow higher than it would be in this hypothetical (and extremely unlikely) event of a trade to NJ (and yes, it could also fall much lower don't get me wrong, that's not the point I'm making).
Simply put, the future is uncertain.
Xhekaj could very well end up simply being a third-pairing/tweener guy that you put on for toughness (kind of like Luke Schenn before this year). It is also possible that he could get injured and become unable to play in the NHL after a couple years. Or, he could have a long Ed Jovanovski type of career. Maybe even take everyone by surprise, develop like crazy and end up being a modern Rob Blake. Or he could also end up dying tomorrow or another day in any kind of gruesome and senseless way.
Yes, both extremes of the spectrum are VERY unlikely, and the middle-range (as yet more or less undefined) of those various possibilites should ultimately be where Xhekaj lands pertaining to his career and value around the league as an NHLer, but stranger things have happened.
We simply don't know yet. And that's the whole beauty/chaos of it all.
In the end, we should postpone judgments either way and just keep watching Xhekaj play as he tries to establish himself in the NHL, keeping a level-head all along. We should also exhibit more restraint when responding to posters with different perspectives/favored teams since it helps us engage in more fertile discourse about prospects/teams/current players.
Anyways, that's it from me. Cheers, and have a good night.
I think every team in the league right now would want to staple Xhekaj to their third pair.
My Rangers certainly would. The price is likely 1st round pick + solid prospect. Montreal is not trading him.
My Rangers certainly would. The price is likely 1st round pick + solid prospect. Montreal is not trading him.
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dirtydanglez
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The idea that every obscure star wars character is somebody's favorite so you could make up a name and people would love them. With some 1500 NHL players under contract I have not heard this guy's name before
So is Jackeye. An enforcer who can play in your top 4 d is pretty unique. And he is the only player the Habs have in the current lineup who will protect his teammates.
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he can play in montreals top 4 but the habs have the worst blueline in the league. he'd be bottom pair on almost every team. he's a nice player to have but teams will only pay so much for depth players.
It’s not that he’s overrated. He’s a 21 year old rookie d and you’re talking about him like he’s done developing. He’s far exceeded expectations already and appears to have a much higher ceiling. he’s already providing an aspect to the lineup that’s been absent for years. There is zero reason for a young rebuilding team to move a player like him when there’s no one else providing what he does
He's a great story. He's also a long term project who has to develop virtually every area of his game. Maybe he becomes a well rounded defender when MTL rebuilds and can play with them when they are good again. They have several years to figure it out. I think his skating and skills will ultimately determine how far he goes. The hitting and fighting will help along the way but are themselves of secondary importance.
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Six pages of arguing, and very few seem to get it.
What Xhekaj's skill level or potential is - or will be - is absolutely irrelevant, because what talent there is will simply go to waste amid the garbage fire that is the Habs right now. However, he might be the most valuable piece in their organisation right now. Dead serious.
Suzuki and Caufield are nice pieces, but what good are they doing for the team? They aren't winning. Slaf? I wasn't a fan of the pick at all, but now that's irrelevant too with the injury. The rest of the roster has a few bright spots, but ultimately it is comprised of overpaid garbage that you couldn't offload for free, and ELC players that haven't exactly shown much yet. The same goes for most rebuilding teams, I suppose.
But Xhekaj? You have possibly the biggest underdog in recent memory entering the league as a rookie, immediately caving in skulls and taking shit from nobody. If you're a fan, you don't care if he fumbled a zone exit or misplayed a 2-on-1. You remember his physicality and energy, perhaps his weird surname too, and you most certainly remember how he plays with all his heart every damn game. And the fights, naturally. And there you have it: the Habs lucked out and found a player who brings more goodwill into the organisation than what anybody could reasonably offer them in a trade.
Xhekaj buys the front office time and peace. Good luck offering them enough assets to make them not only give that advantage away, but also subject themselves to the backlash from the fans.
What Xhekaj's skill level or potential is - or will be - is absolutely irrelevant, because what talent there is will simply go to waste amid the garbage fire that is the Habs right now. However, he might be the most valuable piece in their organisation right now. Dead serious.
Suzuki and Caufield are nice pieces, but what good are they doing for the team? They aren't winning. Slaf? I wasn't a fan of the pick at all, but now that's irrelevant too with the injury. The rest of the roster has a few bright spots, but ultimately it is comprised of overpaid garbage that you couldn't offload for free, and ELC players that haven't exactly shown much yet. The same goes for most rebuilding teams, I suppose.
But Xhekaj? You have possibly the biggest underdog in recent memory entering the league as a rookie, immediately caving in skulls and taking shit from nobody. If you're a fan, you don't care if he fumbled a zone exit or misplayed a 2-on-1. You remember his physicality and energy, perhaps his weird surname too, and you most certainly remember how he plays with all his heart every damn game. And the fights, naturally. And there you have it: the Habs lucked out and found a player who brings more goodwill into the organisation than what anybody could reasonably offer them in a trade.
Xhekaj buys the front office time and peace. Good luck offering them enough assets to make them not only give that advantage away, but also subject themselves to the backlash from the fans.
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Devils don’t need a 10 min / night d man. They can use some snarl, but the need someone who can play right now. Wi-Fi isn’t getting major minutes on a playoff team.
Severson has been the minutes leader on the devils recently.
Montreal is rebuilding and has no use for Severson.
Trade makes no sense for either team.
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