Value of: arber xhekaj to nj

[Canadienna]

The thread will turn into a trade value debate but really it's just the premise that makes no sense.

Xhekaj's value is kind of irrelevant because there's no reason for Montreal to move him.

If you're trying to replace Severson with a Dman with sand it makes sense but I would look elsewhere.

 

[SML2]

If you're going to lose alot of games, you need to have some tough players. You can get beat or you can get beat up. If you do both, people stop coming to the games.

 

[Xirik]

Massive yikes!

As a Devils fan I'd say absolutely where do I sign?
Montreal doesn't even consider if for a second.

For Montreal to even think about it, they'd want players like, L Hughes, Nemec or Mercer

Bit of an exaggeration? a 3rd pairing D that plays with snarl and grit for one of those guys?

is Montreal giving Florida's pick to NJ as well?

Highest I would go would be Mukhamadullin +2nd

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Bit of an exaggeration? a 3rd pairing D that plays with snarl and grit for those guys?

is Montreal giving Florida's pick to NJ as well?

Don't get it twisted, I didn't say NJ should offer any of these players nor did I say they should pay that price.
Considering Montreal is in a rebuild for them to trade a good young player, they're going to want a really good young player for him.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Probably going to get flammed for this but here it goes:

Severson for Xhekaj

Devils need snarl (not geertsen)…two devils scouts at the game last night…WiFi is on a team friendly deal for one more year and will be an RFA…severson walks this off-season with current cap & pipeline

Montreal added some wiggle room with LTIR money with injury announcement and gives them a too Dman

Thoughts?

Xekaj would be a 1st rounder right now in a redraft.
first in goals among rookie D..
first in hits among rookie D.
second in the NHL in fighting majors.
second in the NHL in penalty minutes.

21 Y.O, 6'4, 240 who can actually skate and is a legit heavyweight in the NHL.
He's a unicorn if he continues to develop like this.
He's become an untouchable, and offering a 28 y.o UFA-to-be
for him is a ridiculous proposal.

Habs are trying to trade their older D like Edmundson and maybe Savard

Why not trade a 6th round pick for a face puncher??

here come the insecure troll posts

 

[Baksfamous112]

jersey is soft as butter and he's exactly what nj needs he just doesn't have a whole lot of value

What do you mean not a whole lot of value? 21 years old 6’4, robust, fast, fight like a bull, has an underrated first pass and on pace for 25 points isn’t a whole lot of value? If he was a top 5 pick everyone would be in la la land for him

 

[Xirik]

Xekaj would be a 1st rounder right now in a redraft.
first in goals among rookie..
first in hits among rookie D.
second in the NHL in fighting majors.
second in the NHL in penalty minutes.

21 Y.O, 6'4, 240 who can actually skate and is a legit heavyweight in the NHL.
He's a unicorn if he continues to develop like this.
He's become an untouchable, and offering a 28 y.o UFA-to-be
for him is ridiculous proposal.

Habs are trying to trade their older D like Edmundson and maybe Savard

1. Among rookie Defensemen
2. That's a good thing?

 

[HuGo Sham]

Bit of an exaggeration? a 3rd pairing D that plays with snarl and grit for one of those guys?

is Montreal giving Florida's pick to NJ as well?

Highest I would go would be Mukhamadullin +2nd

Cmon man, this is such a slanted take for a rookie. He also plays PP and PK --does that count in your cherry picking?

1. Among rookie Defensemen
2. That's a good thing?

he fights.
fights = 5 min penalties.

facts

 

[dirtydanglez]

What do you mean not a whole lot of value? 21 years old 6’4, robust, fast, fight like a bull, has an underrated first pass and on pace for 25 points isn’t a whole lot of value? If he was a top 5 pick everyone would be in la la land for him

in the end he's a depth defenseman. teams will only pay soo much for that.

 

[ReimanSum1908]

Get a time machine - go back 3 years and sign him before Montreal does - or better yet draft him in the 7th round!

I do think he is overrated by a portion of the Habs fan base though - but as a rebuilding team you don’t trade a young player for a pending UFA.

He's absolutely overrated for a player who "looks" good each night because of his physicality; he'll stand out an blind you with his heavy style of game, but isn't actually helping his team when he's on the ice at this very early stage of his career, save for his absurdly high luck.

That said, he has a uniquely coveted set of physical tools.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

here come the insecure troll posts

Cmon man, this is such a slanted take for a rookie. He also plays PP and PK --does that count in your cherry picking?

I don't know if you're intentionally misunderstanding what literally everyone is saying or if it's happening naturally

First guy is clearly saying the Devils could acquire a goon for a draft pick, not about Wifi at all.

Second guy is saying he'd be a third pairing D on the Devils, because he would be behind Marino and Hamilton.

 

[Xirik]

he fights.
fights = 5 min penalties.

facts

Which can be a good thing IF!
1. He doesn't get the instigator penalty
2. Him being out for five minutes doesn't harm the teams defense. Right now sadly Xhekaj is probably one of the better Defensemen they have as they have old/Injury prone/6th D in their lineup.

Once the Habs get a better D core then 2 doesn't matter as much.
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Anyway Devils already have a Better defensive version of Xhekaj in Siegenthaler. He might not have snarl and grit but you can get that cheaper with 3rd and 4th line guys.

 

[MXD]

I don't know if you're intentionally misunderstanding what literally everyone is saying or if it's happening naturally

First guy is clearly saying the Devils could acquire a goon for a draft pick, not about Wifi at all.

Second guy is saying he'd be a third pairing D on the Devils, because he would be behind Marino and Hamilton.

The issue with this is, rookie 21 years old 3rd pairing players with 6 further seasons of team control who are his size and who brings his physicality usually aren't traded.

Of course he's a 3rd paring player. He may top as a #5 for all we know. His value just isn't in line with your average 3rd pairing player that you sometimes see traded at the TDL because they don't tend be, well, this.

Which can be a good thing IF!
1. He doesn't get the instigator penalty
2. Him being out for five minutes doesn't harm the teams defense. Right now sadly Xhekaj is probably one of the better Defensemen they have as they have old/Injury prone/6th D in their lineup.

Once the Habs get a better D core then 2 doesn't matter as much.

If anything, he'S a bit better offensively than defensively. Mostly due to his tools and his lack of experience. Also played quite a bit on the wrong side, and, as a RD, he's not an quite NHL'er (this said, many LHD also aren't NHL'er on their off side)

 

[MardyBum]

Xekaj would be a 1st rounder right now in a redraft.
first in goals among rookie D..
first in hits among rookie D.
second in the NHL in fighting majors.
second in the NHL in penalty minutes.

21 Y.O, 6'4, 240 who can actually skate and is a legit heavyweight in the NHL.
He's a unicorn if he continues to develop like this.
He's become an untouchable, and offering a 28 y.o UFA-to-be
for him is a ridiculous proposal.

Habs are trying to trade their older D like Edmundson and maybe Savard


here come the insecure troll posts

He's just a guy. Not the god king of hockey. The Devils can get a rental dman who's just as physical, and who is better, and it would cost less for them. Montreal can keep their HoF unicorn so he can develop into a 60 fight a year dman. Take a breath. It's okay. I don't think it'd be smart for the Habs to trade him either. Why waste the asset hoping you draft a guy who may one day be where he is. Keep him.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

The issue with this is, rookie 21 years old 3rd pairing players with 6 further seasons of team control who are his size and who brings his physicality usually aren't traded.

Of course he's a 3rd paring player. He may top as a #5 for all we know. His value just isn't in line with your average 3rd pairing player that you sometimes see traded at the TDL because they don't tend be, well, this.


If anything, he'S a bit better offensively than defensively. Mostly due to his tools and his lack of experience. Also played quite a bit on the wrong side, and, as a RD, he's not an quite NHL'er (this said, many LHD also aren't NHL'er on their off side)

I have zero idea what you're quoting me for? He was called a 3rd pairing D, which he would be and someone else got salty about it. Same dude, is consistently misunderstanding what people are saying and twisting it into something to be mad about. I simply pointed out what he was doing.

Never once said the Canadiens would, should or will trade him, in fact if you read the thread I pretty clearly give my opinion on this trade and his value

 

[Zubrus Coffee Maker]

Lock this up, makes no sense for Montreal

 

[Homesick]

NJ doesn't want him. He's part of the reason why Edmundson has been so bad this year

 

[koyvoo]

Probably going to get flammed for this but here it goes:

Severson for Xhekaj

Devils need snarl (not geertsen)…two devils scouts at the game last night…WiFi is on a team friendly deal for one more year and will be an RFA…severson walks this off-season with current cap & pipeline

Montreal added some wiggle room with LTIR money with injury announcement and gives them a too Dman

Thoughts?

Burner account

 

[David Suzuki]

Xhekaj for Xhekaj Hughes.

 

[MXD]

I have zero idea what you're quoting me for? He was called a 3rd pairing D, which he would be and someone else got salty about it. Same dude, is consistently misunderstanding what people are saying and twisting it into something to be mad about. I simply pointed out what he was doing.

Never once said the Canadiens would, should or will trade him, in fact if you read the thread I pretty clearly give my opinion on this trade and his value

... Come to think of it, I don't quite know why I quoted you either

 

[Xirik]

I hope Barabosha makes it on the Devils just so he and Xhekaj can fight. Xhekaj is a beast of a fighter and Barabosha is a former Boxer.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

The issue with this is, rookie 21 years old 3rd pairing players with 6 further seasons of team control who are his size and who brings his physicality usually aren't traded.

Of course he's a 3rd paring player. He may top as a #5 for all we know. His value just isn't in line with your average 3rd pairing player that you sometimes see traded at the TDL because they don't tend be, well, this.


If anything, he'S a bit better offensively than defensively. Mostly due to his tools and his lack of experience. Also played quite a bit on the wrong side, and, as a RD, he's not an quite NHL'er (this said, many LHD also aren't NHL'er on their off side)

He’s definitely better offensively than defensively - still has work to do on the defensive end, and also has decision making issues on both ends of the ice.

He’s big, and hits and is an intimidating pressence but his stick positioning and gaps can still improve, where I find he is caught off guard by speed through transition frequently enough where it is something I have taken note of. He also doesn’t pick the best times to hit. A hit is great - but he at times does it to the detriment to his team and odd man rushes happen as a result. He’s learning though and all of this should get better with more reps. I see him becoming a similar player to what Radko Gudas is.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

NJ doesn't want him. He's part of the reason why Edmundson has been so bad this year

That is idiotic. He doesn’t play with Ed. He has been paired with Wideman. Educate yourself son.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I don't know if you're intentionally misunderstanding what literally everyone is saying or if it's happening naturally

First guy is clearly saying the Devils could acquire a goon for a draft pick, not about Wifi at all.

Second guy is saying he'd be a third pairing D on the Devils, because he would be behind Marino and Hamilton.

if I'm mistaken then I apologize. First post read like he was referring to 72 & Xirik wasn't clear he'd be a 3rd pairing on Devils

 

[MasterofGrond]

Severson is a good NHL defenseman. Xhekaj might be one someday, but he isn't one right now. I'm fine with the Devils trying to add some sandpaper, but not at the cost of a significant downgrade in ability to actually play the game