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Not arguing any of this, but I would also add the fact that Fedotov was handed the NHL job, while Kolosov didn't even play once he was assigned to the AHL.
Prospect Info: April 2: Alexei Kolosov has joined AHL Phantoms (Goalie, 2021 draft pick); played April 13
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Flyers probably didn't know if Fedotov was coming over until it was a done deal, it's not like you can count on anyone leaving Russia these days, and he was a very delicate situation b/c of the politics.
But I doubt they promised Kolosov a NHL job, I'm sure they seem him as 2-3 years from the NHL. It's not like he's an elite KHL goalie who is a high probability to immediately succeed in the NHL. He performed very well for his age, which makes him a solid prospect, but KHL is still a "minor league" (and probably closer to AHL these days) and Kolosov did not dominate. Heck he hardly outplayed his backups.
What they probably told him was they expected him to be the starter for LHV (but he'd have to perform to keep his job, same as the KHL) and if he played well would be the first call up in case of injury. With Fedotov on a 2 year deal and Ersson unproven, there was a pathway to the NHL if he earned it.
What does he earn playing for Minsk? Obviously if the money is similar, he's prefer to play in his hometown where he's a "local hero." And if he burns off his ELC, can negotiate for real money in his RFA years.
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Given Flyers/Phantoms track record developing players, I say let him go back for another year. They obviously don't have plans for him this year, he'll get more playing time.
But I guess now that they puffed out their chest, they're kinda stuck.........
But I guess now that they puffed out their chest, they're kinda stuck.........
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I call BS on that as at the least they knew what the chances were as they were probably talking for a long time. To think otherwise is foolish. They knew it was a possibility.
Kolosov needs to grow a set and put in the work. The big questions for me what was communicated to Kolosov. What if anything was promised. To many open questions and the Flyers do not get any benefit of the doubt at this time.
Funny how your putting Kolosov done. If he was in camp you probably have him pegged as starter in 2026.
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I'm not putting him down, he performed well for his age group in the KHL. But he didn't perform at a level that said he's NHL ready.
The problem is if the Flyers loan him to Minsk, Kolosov will probably make the same demand next season, burning through his ELC. Then you have to offer him a NHL job as a RFA or lose him.
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You are just looking at raw numbers. That isnt how it works, at least to me when it comes to a goalie. There is much more to it and unless you are there very hard to say what he will or won't be.
I have zero issue with the Flyers wanting him here. They paid him last year and he should 100% be at camp. At least on the surface. Come show what you can do. The opportunity is there imo.
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Fedotov was in the US like the day they announced it. They knew he was coming.
That was like three days after the Kolosov noise.
That was like three days after the Kolosov noise.
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No see if Fedotov showed up unannounced at Danny's door with a blank contract in hand, you can delude yourself into thinking the Flyers aren't at fault here!
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Fedotov was in the US days before he signed... they definitely knew it was a done deal when Kolosov was over. If he was not informed about it before news was released? Hmmm...
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There's no reason for Kolosov not to be here playing in the AHL this season. If the Phantoms played him regularly, he could probably make his NHL debut this season when inevitably fedotov shits the bed or ersson gets hurt or something. Obviously the Flyers are morons, but for Kolosov if he just played a few NHL games and performed well this season, many teams would be open to trading for him and he'd have a real NHL career either way. This is self-destructive behavior.
with what we have on the NHL club..he should be here...he has a good a chance as any other goalie in the org to take the reigns and win the starting job..but I also do not blame him for not wanting to be a part of this shit show
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I will break down the Flyers managerial processes, simply and succinctly:
"Does it involve a depth player vital to The Culture?" ----> PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE
"Does it involve literally anyone else?" ----> PATH OF MOST RESISTANCE
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What a bizarre situation.
His failure to report to camp basically sealed the need for Makiniemi, and now there's no room in the AHL. I don't see how he makes the NHL, so he's almost definitely returning to the KHL.
Did the Flyers capitulate and find a way to kind of save face by having him come over but also letting him go back to the KHL?
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You do kind of need three goalies in the AHL. One of them usually gets hurt.
Petersen can ride the pine and collect his cash if necessary. One would hope GMDB would be telling Lappy who to play.
Petersen can ride the pine and collect his cash if necessary. One would hope GMDB would be telling Lappy who to play.
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Based on the tweet, though, it doesn't sound like AHL is a real option. It sounds more like "yeah, I'll play a few games there but I'm going home if I'm not on the Flyers."
Honestly, at this point, considering how up in the air out goaltending is, why not run with a 3 headed monster in net for the Flyers? See who takes the starting job.
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I think it's less about saving face than getting a first hand look and being able to evaluate his progress. Looking at KHL video is not the same as seeing and working with him first hand.
Bjarnason's clock starts next season when he goes to the AHL, Zavragin probably comes over in 2027-28 (3 year KHL deal). Ersson and Fedotov are in the NHL.
If you play out Kolosov's deal in Minsk, you won't be able to have him work with your goalie coaches (a strength of the organization) and have to make a decision in 2026-27 when he's a RFA with less information than you'd like.
We lost Stolarz b/c a knee injury meant he wasn't ready for NHL when they had to make a decision.
It's not just about Kolosov, it's also about the decision to extend Ersson and/or Fedotov.
Bjarnason's clock starts next season when he goes to the AHL, Zavragin probably comes over in 2027-28 (3 year KHL deal). Ersson and Fedotov are in the NHL.
If you play out Kolosov's deal in Minsk, you won't be able to have him work with your goalie coaches (a strength of the organization) and have to make a decision in 2026-27 when he's a RFA with less information than you'd like.
We lost Stolarz b/c a knee injury meant he wasn't ready for NHL when they had to make a decision.
It's not just about Kolosov, it's also about the decision to extend Ersson and/or Fedotov.
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Have you watched Peterson play?
Kolosov, IF he's for real (he thinks he is, but self-delusion is pretty common) would quickly be the #1 and get most of the games.
