GDT: Apr. 27, 7:00pm: The BWO proudly presents "The Leafs vs TB - It's Game 5 Baby!" - The Opposite Edition

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Last season, after 5 games, Vasi posted an .878 & 3.65.
Facing elimination in game 6 & 7: .939% & 1.66

I fully expect a stellar Vasi from now on until the series is over.

I expect the scoring to get lower and the checking tighter but Leafs seem to have Vas number. particularly this year and what previously felt like an unmovable wall now seems to have its cracks.
 
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My first flat screen 16:9 TV came in a year after 2005. Watched a HD Jays game on it and thought "holyshit this is the best thing ever."
 

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I thought game 1 was pretty even (despite the score), game 2 we dominated, game 3 and 4 though, Tampa really controlled the play, and we were very lucky to win. Keefe's opinion is "stick with what's working", but ... I dunno, getting dominated but having some puck luck and miraculous comebacks, I wouldn't consider that an approach we can keep replicating.

Don't get me wrong, I've been having a blast watching the games, very proud of the boys for these amazing comebacks, but I do think we need to realize there's lots of luck in hockey. Coaching/lineup decisions should try to block out the noise, focus on what's most likely to make us win. It's nice that the luck has been turning our way, compared to past playoffs where we've often lost despite outplaying the competition, but we shouldn't be counting on luck, it's too random.

IMO:

- We get DOMINATED at ES with Holl out there, he's our biggest ES liability by far. The problem is primarily breakouts, Tampa's forwards pressure him and he just forces bad passes up ice, which constantly leads to Tampa getting the puck right back. This is a major issue, it means we spend most of Holl's shifts without the puck, in our own end. The #1 thing we can do to start controlling the play more at ES is take out our biggest ES liability (Holl), and replace him with a very strong ES player (Lily). Holl is better on the PK, but Gio/Brodie/McCabe/Schenn are all on par with Holl on the PK, they can take his minutes​
- Bunting is simply better than ZAR and Lafferty, should be in over one of them. The 4th line has been our #2 ES weakness, after Holl, worth a shot. Of course it is expected that 4th lines get kinda dominated, but will probably be less the case if we put Bunts on it​

Based on that, I'd go with:

Jarnkrok - Matthews - Nylander
Knies - JT - Marner
Acciari - ROR - Kerfoot
Bunting - Kampf - Lafferty

Rielly - Schenn
McCabe - Brodie
Gio - Lily

Sammy
Woll

Also, for those who disagree with Holl getting dominated at ES these playoffs, here's our 5v5 on/off ice playoff stats so far (from NHL Player Statistics -Advanced Stats):
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Holl with atrocious stats, and the eye test has been just as bad. Gio's stats are bad too, but that's because he's playing with Holl IMO, he's consistently done great with Lily all year.

FWIW, Holl's PK stats are also the worst on the team, although him and Brodie do go up against Tampa's PP1, so this is less of a fair comp. But at the very least, the PK hasn't been particularly good with Holl.
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My first flat screen 16:9 TV came in a year after 2005. Watched a HD Jays game on it and thought "holyshit this is the best thing ever."

I got mine in 2005, too. It was a CRT set and it was big and clunky. Great picture, though.

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In the present discourse, I shall elucidate the rationale underpinning the supposition that the Toronto Maple Leafs shall emerge triumphant over the Tampa Bay Lightning in the forthcoming Game 5 of their current competitive engagement. This assertion is predicated upon a multifarious analysis, incorporating both quantitative and qualitative variables pertinent to the performance of each respective athletic collective.

Foremost, an examination of the Leafs' strategic deployment of personnel, as evidenced by their synergistic utilization of lines and defensive pairings, indicates a predilection for adaptability, responsiveness, and tactical acuity. This, in conjunction with their proclivity for employing an aggressive forecheck and proficient puck possession, facilitates the cultivation of scoring opportunities and attenuates the likelihood of conceding goals.

Additionally, the Leafs' roster boasts a cadre of elite-level talents, encompassing both offensive and defensive specialists. The confluence of their individual aptitudes for scoring, playmaking, and defensive prowess coalesces to engender an overarching competitive advantage over their adversaries. Furthermore, the Leafs' netminder has demonstrated exceptional proficiency in the execution of his duties, yielding a formidable bulwark against the Lightning's offensive advances.

The Tampa Bay Lightning, while indubitably formidable in their own right, have exhibited certain vulnerabilities, particularly in the realms of special teams and defensive zone coverage. The Leafs' capacity to exploit these susceptibilities, as manifest in their power play efficiency and prowess in generating high-danger scoring chances, shall prove instrumental in the realization of their anticipated victory.

In summation, it is posited that the Toronto Maple Leafs' amalgamation of strategic mastery, roster depth, and superlative individual performances will coalesce to yield a favorable outcome in tonight's contest, thus vanquishing the Tampa Bay Lightning in Game 5.
 
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I thought game 1 was pretty even (despite the score), game 2 we dominated, game 3 and 4 though, Tampa really controlled the play, and we were very lucky to win. Keefe's opinion is "stick with what's working", but ... I dunno, getting dominated but having some puck luck and miraculous comebacks, I wouldn't consider that an approach we can keep replicating.

Don't get me wrong, I've been having a blast watching the games, very proud of the boys for these amazing comebacks, but I do think we need to realize there's lots of luck in hockey. Coaching/lineup decisions should try to block out the noise, focus on what's most likely to make us win. It's nice that the luck has been turning our way, compared to past playoffs where we've often lost despite outplaying the competition, but we shouldn't be counting on luck, it's too random.

IMO:

- We get DOMINATED at ES with Holl out there, he's our biggest ES liability by far. The problem is primarily breakouts, Tampa's forwards pressure him and he just forces bad passes up ice, which constantly leads to Tampa getting the puck right back. This is a major issue, it means we spend most of Holl's shifts without the puck, in our own end. The #1 thing we can do to start controlling the play more at ES is take out our biggest ES liability (Holl), and replace him with a very strong ES player (Lily). Holl is better on the PK, but Gio/Brodie/McCabe/Schenn are all on par with Holl on the PK, they can take his minutes​
- Bunting is simply better than ZAR and Lafferty, should be in over one of them. The 4th line has been our #2 ES weakness, after Holl, worth a shot. Of course it is expected that 4th lines get kinda dominated, but will probably be less the case if we put Bunts on it​

Based on that, I'd go with:

Jarnkrok - Matthews - Nylander
Knies - JT - Marner
Acciari - ROR - Kerfoot
Bunting - Kampf - Lafferty

Rielly - Schenn
McCabe - Brodie
Gio - Lily

Sammy
Woll

Also, for those who disagree with Holl getting dominated at ES these playoffs, here's our 5v5 on/off ice playoff stats so far (from NHL Player Statistics -Advanced Stats):
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Holl with atrocious stats, and the eye test has been just as bad. Gio's stats are bad too, but that's because he's playing with Holl IMO, he's consistently done great with Lily all year.
I mean game 4 is certainly not an approach I would want to replicate for my own health but I straight up do not think we got dominated in that game. Game 3 and 4 were entirely different things all together. Tampa dominated us in the 1st period and parts of the 2nd. We ran their asses out of the building in the 3rd and OT. That wasn't hanging on for life and hoping to steal a win we went and got that.
 
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Ref looking right at the play too. The amount of dirty stuff Tampa get's away with and then we get called for light taps or a push in a scrum or a crosscheck while on the boards, it's been crazy.

The ref couldn't wait to get his hands up right away when Nylander touched Stamkos earlier in the game, or when McCabe crosschecked a Tampa player shooting the puck after the whistle though.
 
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Too early to start drinking to calm my nerves?

No?

Thanks.

I knew you guys would understand.
I have to go in to the office tomorrow for the first time in ages so taking it easy tonight so feel free to take a sip for me. :)
 

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The last time they won a series, I didn’t even get to watch. I’d moved to the Netherlands a year and a half earlier, there were no online video streams like now, but there was online radio. I got up in the middle of the night (6 hours ahead here) to listen to Joe Bowen’s call of game 7 against Ottawa.
Get it done tonight boys, fix bayonets!
 

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Ref looking right at the play too. The amount of dirty stuff Tampa get's away with and then we get called for light taps or a push in a scrum or a crosscheck while on the boards, it's been crazy.

The ref couldn't wait to get his hands up right away when Nylander touched Stamkos earlier in the game, or when McCabe crosschecked a Tampa player after shooting the puck after the whistle though.

He's a certified piece of crap. That's why I'm thinking a closer game is better than a blowout win. It might keep the cheapshotting down a bit.
 
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