GDT: Apr 24 7:30pm - BwO and the Leafs vs TB: Freaking Game 4. Baby: ROR? No, the real hero so far is Squiffy's liver

[Mike4Leafs4ever]

I wish this was the problem. They can’t even get out of our side of the red line let alone into the dirty areas lol

They can't get out because they are scared and just get rid of the puck as quickly as they can.

 

[Havoc]

Matthews Marner Nylander, what's going on boys. Total trash so far.

O'Reilly looks like he's still gassed from the long game 3 too.

Need the big 3 to take the game over and steal it.

 

[Dragao6]

Nah I aint buying that. They are not that much better to be out playing us like this. Come on bro. Something is way off

Cup finals 3 years in a row
We have zero playoff series wins in what 20 years??

 

[Gallagbi]

Nah I aint buying that. They are not that much better to be out playing us like this. Come on bro. Something is way off

We're scared, happens often with this group. They get scared to make a mistake, stop moving their feet and it causes issues

 

[pcruz]

get Nylander away from the team

Here, let me quote myself on a post where I got a ton of shit for my opinion:

Here's what I've said about Nylander over the years:

• Mar 27, 2019

Engaged Nylander is on the same offensive level as Marner. Creating and scoring goals. Carrying the puck, gaining the zone and keeping the puck from the defenders using his edges and skating ability.

We haven't yet seen that Nylander thus far this year.

• May 12, 2022

Nylander is such a great player, when he's skating.

Useless when he's floating, like on that play.

• Nov 28, 2017

Matthews' skating is definitely not his forte. Not that he's a bad or even average skater, but he's definitely not an upper echelon skater like Gardiner, Rielly, Kapanen are.
I also voted for Marleau and Nylander who is a phenomenal skater to watch.

• May 15, 2022

Nylander was great in 2 games this series.
He was also invisible in 3 games including game 7.

The reason people jumped all over Marner last year was that it looked like he wasn't trying out there.

The reason this fanbase loves players like Hyman, Tucker, Domi, Roberts, Clark, and the like is not that they are/were world beaters, it's because they never cheated us on effort.

When he's going, when he is engaged and skating hard, Nylander is a phenomenal player. We don't expect good defense from him, we don't expect him to turn into Hatcher either, but we expect him to push the other team back on their heels with his speed and great movement on the puck.

Other than the shift he was held up on going into a breakaway (a blatant missed call to be honest), Nylander didn't look interested in the play for all of game 7.

Game 1, 2, and 7 he was terrible.
Games 5 and 6 he was great.

A core player that is either great or terrible and almost never anywhere in between is hard to swallow. If the ratio of bad to great is 1:1 then I can't rely on that guy to be a core player making 7 million.

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Nylander is a fantastic player and is easily one of the big 4...on nights where he skates. The nights when he coasts and stops skating for the puck, he becomes a massive liability. I don't know how much longer it will take for him to realize that he is a fantastic player, and can be a real...

• pcruz
• Post #1,291
• May 10, 2022
• Forum: National Hockey League Talk

 

[Wendelstache]

I don't think Holl's been great but I think 4-5 of those goals against are when the Leafs were on the PP?

How about also being better on the PK???

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

Marner too

Add Matthews and JT to that list. Team is rotten to the core 4

 

[JadedLeaf]

Leafs have to use the extra day in between games 4 and 5 and work on getting through the trap. Can't just push your way through.

 

[Teeder Keon]

Willy's having a bad series. We need playoff Willy stat.

His effort has been the biggest disappointment so far

 

[fahad203]

If they want to shut down Matthews that bad then have Marner, O'Rielly, Tavares and Nylander away from Matthews so we can take advantage. Matthews can play with guys like Kerfoot and Jarnkrok if needed and still be effective. This way Cooper actually has to coach and think about line matching. We make it too easy by letting him have 1 shutdown line to shutdown both our best offensive weapons. Same thing happened in that Montreal series with Danault and for some reason Keefe wouldn't change it up.

Keefe really has to do something out of the box here. A to get Matthew going, B to inject some life into this team

I have never seen a playoff team that's so deflated

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Our D look slow as hell. I've never seen Gio and Brodie look so behind the play.

 

[SprDaVE]

Silver lining:

At least TB/Boston will be a great series

Boston can probably muster more than 1 scoring chance in a period.

 

[TheShape]

Maybe we need Bunting in the lineup.

Bunting in, Kerfoot out. But we know it's going to be the kid Knies who makes way.

 

[Notsince67]

Tavares-Nylander exposed again. Keefe will never learn.

Both Tavares and Kerfoot have been on ice for a shot on goal, without Nylander.
Nylander...a big goose egg with everyone.

 

[seventieslord]

This is barely a playoff style game. Leafs haven't even left 2nd gear yet.

It hasn't been their day, their week, their month.... Or even their year

 

[IPS]

Hey let’s not get too hasty, I need to see the underlying metrics first

I don't think the underlying metrics are needed when the overlying metrics tell the story plenty good enough - 4 shots on goal isn't gonna win you anything.

 

[GoonieFace]

Hopefully the refs bail the Leafs out like they did the Oilers.

Guess you didn’t watch that game. Oilers were full value for that win. They had 3 power plays all game lol, kings had 2.

 

[Torontonian]

Leafs have to use the extra day in between games 4 and 5 and work on getting through the trap. Can't just push your way through.

Attempting to adapt mid game would be a good start, Keefe and Nylander non existent play right now are sabotaging the team.

 

[fahad203]

I must say I like this pizza pizza commercial

 

[Nineteen67]

Nah I aint buying that. They are not that much better to be out playing us like this. Come on bro. Something is way off

They don’t allow zone entries and the Leafshave no forechecking system. And they forecheck like heck causing havoc on Leafs breakout.

Same thing all over again, Tampa determines how wins , not the Leafs.

 

[robertmac43]

Bunting in, Kerfoot out. But we know it's going to be the kid Knies who makes way.

I really hope Knies gets to stay in. Man oh man.

 

[Stephen]

He should have recognized many deficiencies last game and from game 1

What has Kerfoot done ?
What has Kampf done ?
Holl ? Other than last game ?
What has Laff done ?
Also we have been getting hammered at every touch !

No adjustments
Just happy and content to have won the last game and obviously this continues
If you really think about this without our Blue shades ..
Other than the 2nd game we’ve been dominated and of it wasn’t for Bunts getting the boot
He wouldn’t have made any changes

He’s out of his league in the big leagues
GLG
Let’s do it boys
Cmon

Well, if last game we had issues with puck movement, why are Gustafsson and Liljegren still on the sidelines when Gio has been a fossil?

 

[Contenderorpretender]

I just know they'll tie it up and everyone here will change their tune. Knies with his first and o'reilly.

 

[thewave]

I bet Willy wishes he was at the worlds right now.

No point is singling him out when this team is run by a literal Muppet meme coach. This team is not even in the game, hasn't been in 3 games of this series. They are playing like trash.

 

[GoonieFace]

I don't think the underlying metrics are needed when the overlying metrics tell the story plenty good enough - 4 shots on goal isn't gonna win you anything.

Yeah but the expected goals for……and such