Speculation: Any interest in Liljegren for a mid round pick?

Deadly Dogma · 2024-10-05T11:49:59-0400

Looking at the current cap situation and D depth chart its looking like Liljegren is the most likely to be dealt.
Any teams take him for a 4th or 5th?

RomanianLeafs · 2024-10-05T11:51:11-0400

Lol u are drunk bro...

Deadly Dogma · 2024-10-05T11:54:48-0400

RomanianLeafs said:
Lol u are drunk bro...

no, he is getting 3 mil per yr and looking like a 7th D man, I have a feeling no one is going to pay much for a bottom pair guy making 3 mil

TS Quint · 2024-10-05T11:55:07-0400

Timmy would be a good fit on a bad team. He has a couple tools but overall isn't good.

Sticktape · 2024-10-05T11:56:30-0400

7D? Has Rifai leapfrogged him?

Deadly Dogma · 2024-10-05T11:59:06-0400

Sticktape said:
7D? Has Rifai leapfrogged him?

not really, its IMO
Rielly
Tanev
McCabe
OEL
Benoit
Hakanpaa
Lilj/Timmins/Rifai

Mrfenn92 · 2024-10-05T12:00:58-0400

No reason to trade tim. Tanev and hakanpaa tend to be injured

Deadly Dogma · 2024-10-05T12:01:06-0400

TS Quint said:
Timmy would be a good fit on a bad team. He has a couple tools but overall isn't good.

The goal/plan was he should be a top 4 guy but he just isn't taking that next step. He would be a good option on a team lacking D depth

kevsh · 2024-10-05T12:02:22-0400

I don't know the return but it's delusional to think there aren't teams that would take a chance on him.

A 25 year-old RD with a few years of NHL experience and 2 years on his deal @ 3M? That's a low risk gamble with potentially a decent (but modest) upside for a GM that needs help on the (right side) blueline.

Deadly Dogma · 2024-10-05T12:03:24-0400

Mrfenn92 said:
No reason to trade tim. Tanev and hakanpaa tend to be injured

Issue is we need to sign Patches and Lorentz, we're 1 mil over the cap and I suspect about 875-1m each for Patches and Lorentz meaning dropping Lilj's 3 mil makes everything work.
Unless they just sign 1 of the 2 and move Jarnkrok but IMO that's the worse move.

Mrfenn92 · 2024-10-05T12:04:08-0400

Deadly Dogma said:
Issue is we need to sign Patches and Lorentz, we're 1 mil over the cap and I suspect about 875-1m each for Patches and Lorentz meaning dropping Lilj's 3 mil makes everything work.
Unless they just sign 1 of the 2 and move Jarnkrok but IMO that's the worse move.

Understood

Legion34 · 2024-10-05T12:06:14-0400

kevsh said:
I don't know the return but it's delusional to think there aren't teams that would take a chance on him.

A 25 year-old RD with a few years of NHL experience and 2 years on his deal @ 3M? That's a low risk gamble with potentially a decent (but modest) upside for a GM that needs help on the (right side) blueline.

And he is only owed 3.6 in real dollars.

I would hope for a competent low end c in return. Just someone who can in the middle not a world beater. I suggested frost way back when he was on the outs in Philly but I think he turned it around.

Breakers · 2024-10-05T12:06:42-0400

25 year old right shot d-man with multiple seasons of NHL experience for a 4th round pick?

Every GM in the league would do this

Deadly Dogma · 2024-10-05T12:11:14-0400

Breakers said:
25 year old right shot d-man with multiple seasons of NHL experience for a 4th round pick?

Every GM in the league would do this

In a vacuum for sure but its the start of the season and most teams may not have the flexibility to take on 3mil with 0 cap going the other way

Roo · 2024-10-05T12:24:37-0400

They are not trading him right now. Maybe if Timmins cements himself as a regular.

WarriorofTime · 2024-10-05T12:26:21-0400

If the leafs dealt him it would likely be a pure cap dump. If they can fit him in without issue, they should probably just do that.

DJJones · 2024-10-05T13:10:57-0400

Ya I can't imagine we would have signed Barrie if we could have gotten him for a 4th

Cap is meaningless to Calgary

Rare Jewel · 2024-10-05T13:26:17-0400

kevsh said:
I don't know the return but it's delusional to think there aren't teams that would take a chance on him.

A 25 year-old RD with a few years of NHL experience and 2 years on his deal @ 3M? That's a low risk gamble with potentially a decent (but modest) upside for a GM that needs help on the (right side) blueline.

You would think so, but the coaching staff seemed to him placed as the 7-8th D.

I wouldn't move him, particularly given how the D is composed now, but I think they may. I would rather they get a player, either another D or a C, in a similar spot in need of a change of scenery than a mid-round pick.

HockeyVirus · 2024-10-05T14:20:48-0400

kevsh said:
I don't know the return but it's delusional to think there aren't teams that would take a chance on him.

A 25 year-old RD with a few years of NHL experience and 2 years on his deal @ 3M? That's a low risk gamble with potentially a decent (but modest) upside for a GM that needs help on the (right side) blueline.

Feels like a team like the Sharks would be all over it. Take the cap hit and get him for basically free.

Lilly needs more minutes but the org simply doesn't want to give them to him

matt trick · 2024-10-05T14:26:42-0400

HockeyVirus said:
Feels like a team like the Sharks would be all over it. Take the cap hit and get him for basically free.

Lilly needs more minutes but the org simply doesn't want to give them to him

Ceci, Rutta, and Benning have underwhelmed. Vlasic is next up playing his offside. I’d be in favor of a 4th or 5th for Liljegren. Best case he can play at a 2nd pair level, but I’d take a solid third pair RHD who is young.

We have Dickinson and Muk, but no promising youth at RHD.

HockeyVirus · 2024-10-05T14:41:03-0400

matt trick said:
Ceci, Rutta, and Benning have underwhelmed. Vlasic is next up playing his offside. I’d be in favor of a 4th or 5th for Liljegren. Best case he can play at a 2nd pair level, but I’d take a solid third pair RHD who is young.

We have Dickinson and Muk, but no promising youth at RHD.

Worst case he is a bottom pairing dman who doesn't do much aside from have a good first pass and be ok defensively (and be right handed).

But he was drafted as an offensive D, and then never given the chance outside of small sample sizes. And then it seems when he gets chances due to injuries he is wildly successful. Like last year when Rielly got suspended and he played top pairing minutes and PP1 time. Our PP was 50% in that stretch.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1760689158375576001

https://x.com/i/web/status/1758482166655172644

I don't get it. Seems like he is easily worth a pick to take a chance on. I am on record thinking Liljegren is the next Stralman

Deadly Dogma · 2024-10-05T14:46:11-0400

HockeyVirus said:
Worst case he is a bottom pairing dman who doesn't do much aside from have a good first pass and be ok defensively (and be right handed).

But he was drafted as an offensive D, and then never given the chance outside of small sample sizes. And then it seems when he gets chances due to injuries he is wildly successful. Like last year when Rielly got suspended and he played top pairing minutes and PP1 time. Our PP was 50% in that stretch.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1760689158375576001

https://x.com/i/web/status/1758482166655172644

I don't get it. Seems like he is easily worth a pick to take a chance on. I am on record thinking Liljegren is the next Stralman

I can see it but for some reason we are not giving him the chance he needs and if he can do that for someone else then fine. Sure it sucks to sell low but moving him solves many issues and the recent play of Rafai and Timmins makes it less risky of a move.

Juxtaposer · 2024-10-05T15:05:26-0400

To be honest, I've been keeping a close eye on the Liljegren situation throughout camp because I think he's the perfect player for the Sharks to target right now.

Right-handed, fairly young, can handle the puck well. I know Leafs fans have been critical of his playoff performance but that, uh, is not a problem for the Sharks right now.

I'd be happy to take him off your hands at full salary for a third rounder. We desperately need someone other than Jake Walman who doesn't handle the puck like a grenade. It's downright funny how much better Walman looks than any other defenseman we have.

Deadly Dogma · 2024-10-05T15:07:51-0400

Juxtaposer said:
To be honest, I've been keeping a close eye on the Liljegren situation throughout camp because I think he's the perfect player for the Sharks to target right now.

Right-handed, fairly young, can handle the puck well. I know Leafs fans have been critical of his playoff performance but that, uh, is not a problem for the Sharks right now.

I'd be happy to take him off your hands at full salary for a third rounder.

A SJ 3rd is a pretty good offer IMO, sure we are selling low but based on what it looks like Berube is looking for, Lilj isn't going to get a real chance to preform (outside of multiple D injuries)

Juxtaposer · 2024-10-05T15:14:11-0400

Deadly Dogma said:
A SJ 3rd is a pretty good offer IMO, sure we are selling low but based on what it looks like Berube is looking for, Lilj isn't going to get a real chance to preform (outside of multiple D injuries)

Well, it would be Edmonton or Colorado's 3rd (we don't have our own).

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