Player Discussion Anton Forsberg

[bert]

Im not convinced. He's been bad.

Well he was way better than Korpisalo or Forsberg have ever been last year. He's technically sound and he was better than both of them when he is here. He is also alot younger, with better pedigree and is frankly much more talented.

 

[Kegu]

Well he was way better than Korpisalo or Forsberg have ever been last year. He's technically sound and he was better than both of them when he is here. He is also alot younger, with better pedigree and is frankly much more talented.

Korpisalo was way better than Korpisalo or Forsberg have ever been last year. I agree he's a better goalie, but I don't think anyone is coming here and lighting it up with how the team has played in front of their goalies.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Korpisalo was way better than Korpisalo or Forsberg have ever been last year. I agree he's a better goalie, but I don't think anyone is coming here and lighting it up with how the team has played in front of their goalies.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Gus is atrocious this year.

I know... but think of the last time we had a real dependable goalie

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I know... but think of the last time we had a real dependable goalie

It wasn’t gus lol. He was bad the year before we traded him.

 

[bert]

Edit. Wrong thread

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

It wasn’t gus lol. He was bad the year before we traded him.

I know it wasn't gus. we need someone that plays like ulmark tonight... everynight

 

[JD1]

Talbot is 3rd in the league in save %age. Wish we could find a guy like that

 

[Boud]

I know it wasn't gus. we need someone that plays like ulmark tonight... everynight

Who was the best goalie we had since then? Probably Nilsson?

 

[Kegu]

@Golden_Jet
I'm aware of what I said. Korpisalo last year was leaps and bounds better than he has ever been previously. Forsbergs best is closer but still worse. Point is, the expectation that Gus would come in and put up respectable numbers because he had a good year last year is crazy.

 

[Xspyrit]

Mm no not a good trade. And even worse contract. But def better than korpisalo who might legit me the worst goalie to have played a game in the NHL this year

I was talking about the trade to dump him to Toronto... a 3rd + 7th for dumping 75% of that terrible contract was good but again, Dorion created that situation himself... so the cost was 2nd + 3rd + 7th + Gruden for 2 years of Murray at an overpriced cap hit and constant injuries

Korpisalo was way better than Korpisalo or Forsberg have ever been last year. I agree he's a better goalie, but I don't think anyone is coming here and lighting it up with how the team has played in front of their goalies.

Agreed. K0rpisal0 was better than Korpi5alo

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Forsberg has to go.

Not NHL capable... trade... waive... ?

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[Alex1234]

Vasi and Forsberg kept it close for Tampa
Good stuff...

 

[Big Muddy]

Forsberg has to go.

Not NHL capable... trade... waive... ?

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If a player has a Cap Hit greater than the Buried Threshold, if they are sent to AHL the team's Cap Hit is the player Cap Hit - Buried Threshold. The Buried Threshold is as follows:

2024-25: $775,000 + $375,000 = $1,150,000

Forsberg salary 2,750,000 - 1,150,000 = $1,600,000 cap hit.

BUT, the Senators currently only have $911,230 of cap space.

 

[Xspyrit]

As bad as the talk has been, I don't think he's responsible for many of the 10 goals against, we are still very easy to score against.

Edit : 10 goals as I forgot to include the NJ game.

 

[Boud]

As bad as the talk has been, I don't think he's responsible for many of the 7 goals against, we are still very easy to score against.

I would argue he’s been below average personally.

He’s letting in softies and we’re lucky we won the LA game and the Tampa game. The team has played relatively good and if we had just average to good goaltending, these games would not have been close.

We don’t have anyone else who could play though so my hope is that Ullmark can stay healthy and Forsberg plays better in a sheltered role against bottom feeders.

The Chaffee goal and the Guentzel goal should have been saves. The Guentzel goal was unacceptable. I get it this can happen here and there but it shouldn’t happen once every game.

If he keeps playing this way we should go get a backup before christmas.

 

[Xspyrit]

I would argue he’s been below average personally.

He’s letting in softies and we’re lucky we won the LA game and the Tampa game. The team has played relatively good and if we had just average to good goaltending, these games would not have been close.

We don’t have anyone else who could play though so my hope is that Ullmark can stay healthy and Forsberg plays better in a sheltered role against bottom feeders.

Which goals were "softies"? Just to be sure because I have seen people blame him for the first goal vs NJ for example when it was a double deflection. People's "analysis" ability is really all over the place.

My intention is not to defend him at all costs, his play has unfortunately regressed since his injuries but I think there is a need to be fair.

 

[Boud]

Which goals were "softies"? Just to be sure because I have seen people blame him for the first goal vs NJ for example when it was a double deflection. People's "analysis" ability is really all over the place.

My intention is not to defend him at all costs, his play has unfortunately regressed since his injuries but I think there is a need to be fair.

I just mentioned in the post above the Guentzel goal which was an obvious one to me.

I don’t want to go back and look at the LA highlights to find a bad goal but it’s out there that he didn’t play well that game. When players admit that, it’s because they know he didn’t play well, and Forsberg knows himself.

When you’ve been playing well below .900 for your past *60* starts, you know there’s not much to be said to know that it’s not good enough.

 

[Xspyrit]

I just mentioned in the post above the Guentzel goal which was an obvious one to me.

Yeah, I wanted to mention the Guentzel goal but forgot. You didn't finish your edit when I quoted you so not all the post was there.

And how is the Chafee goal a softie? A re-direction from right in front. You're aware that the puck could be re-directed in every part of the net, right? That goal was more on Amadio and Stutzle for really poor coverage

I don’t want to go back and look at the LA highlights to find a bad goal but it’s out there that he didn’t play well that game. When players admit that, it’s because they know he didn’t play well, and Forsberg knows himself.

He said he didn't play well himself? That sounds like over-zealous intentional modesty because :

1st GA : Fiala one-timer on the PP from the hash marks, that was a hard stop to make
2nd GA : deflection off Lewis body just in front, basically impossible to stop
3rd GA : Kempe's bullet top shelf one-timer on the PP, another very hard to stop

When you’ve been playing well below .900 for your past *60* starts, you know there’s not much to be said to know that it’s not good enough.

I clearly haven't argued that, specifically mentioned it again

 

[Knave]

Which goals were "softies"? Just to be sure because I have seen people blame him for the first goal vs NJ for example when it was a double deflection. People's "analysis" ability is really all over the place.

My intention is not to defend him at all costs, his play has unfortunately regressed since his injuries but I think there is a need to be fair.

Forsberg hasn't played well. Are they super soft goals? No.

But lets put some context in here - 65 goalies have played in the NHL so far.

The 0-5 Nashville Predators and 1-4 Colorado Avalanche are the only two teams with a worse cumulative save percentage than our team.

Forsberg has been our 'starter' given Ullmark's injury. Soogard played part of one game.

And we haven't played a bad defensive game. All statistics suggest we're top 10 or close to it. We aren't Pittsburgh or Montreal or New Jersey. We're closer to Carolina than those 3. And yet we give up goals like we're New Jersey or Montreal despite being way more structured.

When all the stats from the chances you give up, the quality of those chances, the goalies and their save percentages both regular and advanced statistics... when all of it says "hey you're a good defensive team but you're letting in way more goals than you should be"... it should be obvious.

Now Forsberg isn't the guy we planned to be our starter. But again - 65 goalies have played in the NHL so far this year. And Forsberg is 50th in save percentage. His advanced stats would push him down closer to 65th. He's a lower tier backup right down their with Korpisalo so far on the Bruins.

We need to survive games with him and hope like hell Ullmark can be healthy and give us 50 games.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

That goal is utterly inexcusable. The one whoever it was that scored from very difficult angle just batting it in lol.

I will not applause a guy who has a good game but still lets in absolute stinker just because he saved 2-3 great saves which a good NHL goalie should be capable of a couple times a game.

 

[Micklebot]

As bad as the talk has been, I don't think he's responsible for many of the 7 goals against, we are still very easy to score against.

He's got the 11th worst goals saved above expected per 60 out of 65 goalies on Money puck

The team meanwhile has the 2nd best 5v5 and 5th best all situations xGA/60 on NST.

He really hasn't been good. there is no sugar coating it, every shot makes you nervous when he's in net, that's not because the team makes it too easy to score, it's because he makes it too easy to score.

 

[Xspyrit]

Forsberg hasn't played well. Are they super soft goals? No.

But lets put some context in here - 65 goalies have played in the NHL so far.

The 0-5 Nashville Predators and 1-4 Colorado Avalanche are the only two teams with a worse cumulative save percentage than our team.

Forsberg has been our 'starter' given Ullmark's injury. Soogard played part of one game.

And we haven't played a bad defensive game. All statistics suggest we're top 10 or close to it. We aren't Pittsburgh or Montreal or New Jersey. We're closer to Carolina than those 3. And yet we give up goals like we're New Jersey or Montreal despite being way more structured.

When all the stats from the chances you give up, the quality of those chances, the goalies and their save percentages both regular and advanced statistics... when all of it says "hey you're a good defensive team but you're letting in way more goals than you should be"... it should be obvious.

Now Forsberg isn't the guy we planned to be our starter. But again - 65 goalies have played in the NHL so far this year. And Forsberg is 50th in save percentage. His advanced stats would push him down closer to 65th. He's a lower tier backup right down their with Korpisalo so far on the Bruins.

We need to survive games with him and hope like hell Ullmark can be healthy and give us 50 games.

He's got the 11th worst goals saved above expected per 60 out of 65 goalies on Money puck
He really hasn't been good. there is no sugar coating it, every shot makes you nervous when he's in net, that's not because the team makes it too easy to score, it's because he makes it too easy to score.

I appreciate the responses, but I thought I had this all covered already by saying :

"My intention is not to defend him at all costs, his play has unfortunately regressed since his injuries"

Plus, I already mentioned in several other posts that our depth (including back up goaltending) was problematic

That said, I am actually more interested in facts, fairness, exactitude and it would be the same for whoever the player is, whichever the situation. My initial point was and still is :

"I don't think he's responsible for many of the 10 goals against, we are still very easy to score against."

I see the Guentzel goal as the obvious one that should have been saved, but it wasn't a "just batting it in" goal like RKL said, Guentzel made a really slick play to regain possession and fired a quick shot that caught the goalie off guard.

The team meanwhile has the 2nd best 5v5 and 5th best all situations xGA/60 on NST.

I see :

17th lowest CA/60 at ES
14th lowest SA/60 at ES
2nd lowest xGA/60 at ES (which is excellent!)
14th lowest SCA/60 at ES
17th lowest HDCA/60 at ES

Not sure why our xGA is so low despite all the other metrics being average though

 

[OD99]

Seems like a really good guy, but his play has slipped, big time, since we signed him.

The knee issues aside, he hasn't been able to put a solid game together, and we need to hope he can find a way to get back on track.

Those short side goals that just find a way in are back breakers for the team. If we swapped a couple goals for some saves yesterday, the vibe would be different. Save those 2 cheapies and let in 2 of the one-time blasts and the optics are so much better.

It's a weird thing, but we just need saves!