Proposal: Anson Carter: Marner for Rantanen

[S E P H]

During the 1st intermission of VGK/COL, Carter proposed Rantanen for Marner. Thoughts? Good value? Who says no?

Contracts:

Mikko Rantanen: 1 year - 9.25 million (UFA)
Mitch Marner: 1 year - 10.9 million (UFA)

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[OilersFanatics505]

I’ll take the cup winner over someone who hasn’t seen game 6 of Round 2

 

[Sens With Benefits]

Nah. Mitch falls apart in the playoffs.

 

[TheNumber4]

Avs could win this trade, when Marner realizes how much easier it is to perform outside Toronto.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Leafs need Marner more. He's a facilitator. Mikko doesn't create a ton on his own.

 

[TheBeard]

Miko should cost Marner and a Knies.

 

[archangel2]

During the 1st intermission of VGK/COL, Carter proposed Rantanen for Marner. Thoughts? Good value? Who says no?

Contracts:

Mikko Rantanen: 1 year - 9.25 million (UFA)
Mitch Marner: 1 year - 10.9 million (UFA)

No from AVs

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

It only makes sense if:
Rantanen insists on testing the market and wants 13+.
Marner is willing to sign for a reasonable cap hit like 10M-11M, but Toronto doesn't want him.
Colorado would pay Marner 10M-11M.
Marner would waive to sign in Colorado.

In that scenario, Colorado downgrades by they get term. Toronto upgrades, and the cost to upgrade is a sunk cost since they don't want to keep Marner anyways.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

In a vacuum the value is probably reasonably close. Maybe Rantanen carries a bit more value given playoff pedigree and the whole Goals>Assists... But its also a deal that simply isn't gonna happen either. Both guys are going to either re-sign or end up as UFAs. Neither team will trade their guy.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

What are the significant pieces that Toronto is adding?

 

[Shark Finn]

The last thread on this went so well so why not again

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

What are the significant pieces that Toronto is adding?

None because neither player will be traded. They either resign or go to UFA.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Why would the Avs even do this?

Downgrading and still getting a pending UFA

 

[Honour Over Glory]

During the 1st intermission of VGK/COL, Carter proposed Rantanen for Marner. Thoughts? Good value? Who says no?

Contracts:

Mikko Rantanen: 1 year - 9.25 million (UFA)
Mitch Marner: 1 year - 10.9 million (UFA)

Colorado would say no. MR isn't a player that isn't working out or anything of that sort, he's a huge part of the core, they'd likely want to add to him not swap him. I don't see the Avs not re-signing him either.

 

[BB88]

Leafs need Marner more. He's a facilitator. Mikko doesn't create a ton on his own.

Yeah sure

Toronto would be better off with Rantanen, he would help to change their ”culture”

 

[John Mandalorian]

Miko should cost Marner and a Knies.

Marner’s salary ask will be prohibitive even with and especially with Knies.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Everyone knows the responses in this thread but Marner is a better player. Won't be shocked when he finally delivers on what he is capable of in the playoffs in another city.

 

[elmaco]

Gross no way COL does this.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Yeah sure

Toronto would be better off with Rantanen, he would help to change their ”culture”

Rantanen is not the guy to do that.

 

[LOFIN]

Everyone knows the responses in this thread but Marner is a better player.

He plays PK but that's about the only thing he does over Rantanen. Rantanen produces more, scores more, and is more physical.

Won't be shocked when he finally delivers on what he is capable of in the playoffs in another city.

Sure. Maybe some day. As it stands however, Rantanen is top-10 all time in playoff PPG. The three other active players in the same category? McDavid, Draisaitl, MacKinnon. He actually steps up his PPG when the playoffs begin. Marner on the other hand, has drastically shrunk in the playoffs.

This trade makes no sense.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Sure. Maybe some day. As it stands however, Rantanen is top-10 all time in playoff PPG. The three other active players in the same category? McDavid, Draisaitl, MacKinnon. He actually steps up his PPG when the playoffs begin. Marner on the other hand, has drastically shrunk in the playoffs.

This trade makes no sense.

That's why I started my comment the way I did. People will ignore everything but playoffs. When total package is looked at, Marner is the better player. We all know how things have gone in Toronto. Players usually need to leave to get the respect league wide.

 

[benfranklin]

This only makes sense if both are not willing to sign extensions. In terms of a "shake up", the Avs need goaltending, not more/similar/potentially less scoring. Mikko is doing just fine and both MacFarland and Mikko have expressed no concern over contract negotiations. It will get done.

That's why I started my comment the way I did. People will ignore everything but playoffs. When total package is looked at, Marner is the better player. We all know how things have gone in Toronto. Players usually need to leave to get the respect league wide.

Please explain more...

 

[HockeyVirus]

Please explain more...

Marner is the more complete player. One of the best Pkers in the league, Selke finalist as a winger, plays all situations and key moments often being the best player on his line.

Keep in mind, we are talking about two of the leagues best superstars here. Neither is bad. We're debating the margins here. I feel Marner impacts other areas of the game more, like a Stone type winger who also is able to put up superstar offensive stats despite playing in defense first systems.

 

[StewieP19]

If Toronto want Rantanen with Marner in that trade, Toronto need to add.
But since Matthews injured Toronto got 7W - 2L.
To me Toronto can get more in Trading Matthews.
They can add what they need to be better in playoff.

 

[lionsDen]

The Ava need rants more then marner. I’ll keep rants Nikki’s goal scoring and playoff production mean more for me.