Post-Game Talk: GAME 24 - WINNER WINNER FISHSTICKS DINNER - BRUINS 6 Islanders 3

Dennis Bonvie

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If we traded Coyle I think it would wake up the rest of the roster. He's the one dragging Freddy down.

I like the 4th line but sick of them being sacred cows that can't be split up. Surprised Sacco is just as stubborn about that.

Trading Coyle won't wake up anyone.

He's not dragging Freddy down.

The 4th line has been broken up several times.
 

Jorah Marshmont

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Did I hear brick right saying that was Zadorov’s first minor penalty in 6 games? He may be settling down finally.
Third period goals are always great to see. They might have something if they can get a useful third line put together.

Fun fact: with Peeke’s assist last night, Coyle is now in sole possession of 18th on the team in even strength points
 

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Did I hear brick right saying that was Zadorov’s first minor penalty in 6 games? He may be settling down finally.
Third period goals are always great to see. They might have something if they can get a useful third line put together.

Fun fact: with Peeke’s assist last night, Coyle is now in sole possession of 18th on the team in even strength points

Coyle now leads the team in takeaways with 16. With 16 giveaways, he's the only Bruin that doesn't have more giveaways than takeaways.

In 24 games, he has two even strength points.

Coyle also has 150 faceoff wins and 150 faceoff losses. Must be winning a lot of them in the neutral zone.
 
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22Brad Park

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Nice to see Marchand play like Marchand. Maybe the team isn’t as bad as we thought?

I’d still try to get Kreider if that rumor is even real. If they could make a deal involving Freddy, I do it at this point. We’ve been teased for years now by his power forward potential. He is not focused or engaged often enough. He’s the one player I didn’t even notice last night.
Kreider deal scares me but he would fit .Freddy is a ghost.
 

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Kreider deal scares me but he would fit .Freddy is a ghost.
Kreider is on the back 9 like Marchand. You gotta do a deal that moves out an unwanted salary IMO with NYR.

For all the doomsday sayers out there the Boston is currently third in the division three points behind first place Toronto two behind second place Florida with five easy games in a row coming up penguins Canadians Red wings Blackhawk flyers
We always get it together this time of year apart from the Black Friday game which can be a stinker. We can easily get the season back on track in the next week.

I just want to be able to coast to a wildcard spot. Home ice is a disservice to us in the playoffs. If we're in the 2-3 really prefer to not play Toronto and id take Florida or Tampa.
 

22Brad Park

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For all the doomsday sayers out there the Boston is currently third in the division three points behind first place Toronto two behind second place Florida with five easy games in a row coming up penguins Canadians Red wings Blackhawk flyers
No games are easy.Shittburgh put 5 in net last night vs same Canucks that shut Boston out as example.
 

Bradely

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They've stopped trying to be pretty for 60 minutes/night and are quite clearly focused on fundamental hockey.

I'm not at those practices and in that locker room, but I am finding it increasingly difficult to deny the feeling that Montgomery had at least a little bit to do with the team not adjusting to the "reality" (IMO) that they couldn't beat teams on skill as was the case a couple of years ago. Just get pucks to the net, win board battles, limit high-risk plays, etc.

I'm under no illusion that this is a team prepared for any sort of playoff run. But I am happy to see that they are showing an ability to put their collective nose to the grindstone which I wasn't sure existed through the first ~20 games of the season.

I also am aware the Islanders are far from a mammoth opponent, but it was great to see the team not revert back to old ways after they got shutout in a game the night before in which they controlled play for the vast majority of all three periods.
Edit: correction - got the wrong numbers.
 

Dennis Bonvie

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Kreider is on the back 9 like Marchand. You gotta do a deal that moves out an unwanted salary IMO with NYR.


We always get it together this time of year apart from the Black Friday game which can be a stinker. We can easily get the season back on track in the next week.

I just want to be able to coast to a wildcard spot. Home ice is a disservice to us in the playoffs. If we're in the 2-3 really prefer to not play Toronto and id take Florida or Tampa.

Last season the B's started out 14-1-3.

The season before, 17-2-0.

You must be thinking of a different team.
 

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For all the doomsday sayers out there the Boston is currently third in the division three points behind first place Toronto two behind second place Florida with five easy games in a row coming up penguins Canadians Red wings Blackhawk flyers
"So you're saying there's a chance?":D
 

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Coyle now leads the team in takeaways with 16. With 16 giveaways, he's the only Bruin that doesn't have more giveaways than takeaways.

In 24 games, he has two even strength points.

Coyle also has 150 faceoff wins and 150 faceoff losses. Must be winning a lot of them in the neutral zone.
Nice. Never went over that stats which is IMO a photo of how players protect, manage the puck preciously. Thanks for sharing. IMO Coyle IS not the problem and IS part of the solution.

I was curious and wanted to put in correlation with the best defensive forward (37) and founded this.........

 
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What exactly happened on Zaddy's empty-netter? I was wondering why it wasn't icing. The replay wasn't quite clear and the commentators didn't discuss it, but was it because the Bruins player shot the puck down the ice just before Zaddy's penalty expired? So the puck was in motion already before he stepped out of the box. If his penalty had expired and he had stepped out of the box before the player shot the puck, it would have been ruled icing, right?
 

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What exactly happened on Zaddy's empty-netter? I was wondering why it wasn't icing. The replay wasn't quite clear and the commentators didn't discuss it, but was it because the Bruins player shot the puck down the ice just before Zaddy's penalty expired? So the puck was in motion already before he stepped out of the box. If his penalty had expired and he had stepped out of the box before the player shot the puck, it would have been ruled icing, right?
He clearly beat the Islanders players to the puck, thus, not icing.

There wasn't an Islander in the area code. Icing isn't called just because it's dumped to the other end of the ice. There has to be some sort of race.
 

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I think Coyle works really hard.

He's a beast down low, he had a shift in the game tonight where he held the puck for 10 seconds and finished with a spin pass across the top of the crease but the other guys couldn't get their sticks free. He floated a pass across the crease on a 3on2 as well, but Frederic didn't bust for the far post, he just glided in late.

He busts his ass defensively too. I think he leads all NHL centers in takeaways.

I agree. If Coyle were slotted properly in the bottom six, I can’t imagine anyone would complain about him…aside from a few.

Problem is that he’s a functional second liner when things are going well for the entire top 6.

However, when the entire top 6 is struggling, and he’s a part of it, he looks worse than he is because he doesn’t have top end skill or speed.

His assets are puck possession, defensive play and working hard. Which are important complimentary aspects of the game, that stand out when there are 4-5 other guys producing.
 

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What exactly happened on Zaddy's empty-netter? I was wondering why it wasn't icing. The replay wasn't quite clear and the commentators didn't discuss it, but was it because the Bruins player shot the puck down the ice just before Zaddy's penalty expired? So the puck was in motion already before he stepped out of the box. If his penalty had expired and he had stepped out of the box before the player shot the puck, it would have been ruled icing, right?
You may be thinking of USA Hockey rules for youth hockey where it’s automatic icing regardless of who gets there.
 
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He clearly beat the Islanders players to the puck, thus, not icing.

There wasn't an Islander in the area code. Icing isn't called just because it's dumped to the other end of the ice. There has to be some sort of race.
Oh, of course! I hadn't even thought of that.

You may be thinking of USA Hockey rules for youth hockey where it’s automatic icing regardless of who gets there.
Well, no. I know nothing about USA Hockey rules, I just wasn't considering the race aspect at all - bit of an unusual situation.
 

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