Speculation: Another year of this Bluc **** (The 2024-25 season thread)

Bandit

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I guess in some ways Byfield reminds me of Frolov... big set of tools - but not a lot of consistency making use of them - which makes everyone want more out of him. Obviously Byfield isnt even close to Frolov yet, but thats the kind of guy I think he is and will be... if you could transplant Lizottes motor, you'd have a top 5 player in the league. Its still guesswork, there is a chance he could find that consistency as he is still young... but the odds of it keep going down.
Frolov’s sweater game was unmatched, not unlike his wraparound game. Byfield has neither.
 

King'sPawn

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Here is the split.

Some fans
I want to win the Stanley cup.

Other fans
-I want to right the wrongs of the world.
-I want to make sure everyone is a hockey fan.
-I want our team to be an example to the world that minorities can be superior to slavers in the sport of hockey.
-LGBT issues are real and hockey is going to solve them.
-the players that won us a cup 10 years ago are the key to our future success.
-winning the Stanley cup is cool but how you do it is more important.
OR some people have the mental capacity to love the sport and want the team to win, but also care about societal issues and about people (friends and strangers) affected by bad things that are happening.

Why is it the "stick to sports" advocates are the ones that love to take political and societal jabs the most? Just want to bait people into responding before the posts get removed?
 

Bandit

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Here is the split.

Some fans
I want to win the Stanley cup.

Other fans
-I want to right the wrongs of the world.
-I want to make sure everyone is a hockey fan.
-I want our team to be an example to the world that minorities can be superior to slavers in the sport of hockey.
-LGBT issues are real and hockey is going to solve them.
-the players that won us a cup 10 years ago are the key to our future success.
-winning the Stanley cup is cool but how you do it is more important.
You forgot the 3rd category:

Some people aren’t obnoxious assholes. Some people are just regular assholes.
 
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SaltyElkHunter

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OR some people have the mental capacity to love the sport and want the team to win, but also care about societal issues and about people (friends and strangers) affected by bad things that are happening.

Why is it the "stick to sports" advocates are the ones that love to take political and societal jabs the most? Just want to bait people into responding before the posts get removed?
Or we are not making political posts at all we are just saying that trying to accomplish 7 things simultaneously vs just 1 specific goal is a distraction and you accomplish none of them. I just gave exact examples?

So let’s say you accomplish everything on that list except winning the Stanley cup. Isn’t the LA Kings a hockey team? Philanthropy is great and I support all of those issues but if it is distracting the LA Kings hockey team from winning the Stanley cup isn’t it in the wrong context?

Me and my wife sponsor 6 children in countries with zero infrastructure or what you and I would call basic life resources and I personally donated over 40k in meals to kids from South American countries here on athlete visas training Jiu Jitsu in the inland empire and greater salt lake area. So don’t come at me with any homer than thou or high horse bullshit because I would bet another 40k you haven’t done the work!
 
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Or we are not making political posts at all we are just saying that trying to accomplish 7 things simultaneously vs just 1 specific goal is a distraction and you accomplish none of them. I just gave exact examples?

So let’s say you accomplish everything on that list except winning the Stanley cup. Isn’t the LA Kings a hockey team? Philanthropy is great and I support all of those issues but if it is distracting the LA Kings hockey team from winning the Stanley cup isn’t it in the wrong context?

Me and my wife sponsor 6 children in countries with zero infrastructure or what you and I would call basic life resources and I personally donated over 40k in meals to kids from South American countries here on athlete visas training Jiu Jitsu in the inland empire and greater salt lake area. So don’t come at me with any homer than thou or high horse bullshit because I would bet another 40k you haven’t done the work!
Dude. I promise you that everything you listed is a distant 3,827th behind the actual problems that are keeping the Kings from being a serious contender:

Our dumbass president and GM.
 

SaltyElkHunter

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Dude. I promise you that everything you listed is a distant 3,827th behind the actual problems that are keeping the Kings from being a serious contender:

Our dumbass president and GM.
They can’t chew gum and walk at the same time is my point.

I just take great exception to KingsPawn who can be a very nice guy at times wining and saying shit is political or making accusations that I’m some sort of bigot when I can guarantee he hasn’t done a quarter for “the world” that I have done. Sometimes people do shit and don’t ask for publicity out of it or try to market it. I don’t even write it off on my taxes to be 100% transparent about it. So being labeled as some sort of bigot when the truth is completely contrary really strikes a nerve!
 

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The team playing well without Doughty just proves he doesn't need to play a half hour per night.

I said the same thing in the 21/22 season.

20min TOI is fine. God forbid he has a game where he only plays 19min.

You would hope they've seen the results with Kopitar playing the least ice time he has in his career

Plus he'll be coming off a major leg injury

Let's hope.
 

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They can’t chew gum and walk at the same time is my point.

I just take great exception to KingsPawn who can be a very nice guy at times wining and saying shit is political or making accusations that I’m some sort of bigot when I can guarantee he hasn’t done a quarter for “the world” that I have done. Sometimes people do shit and don’t ask for publicity out of it or try to market it. I don’t even write it off on my taxes to be 100% transparent about it. So being labeled as some sort of bigot when the truth is completely contrary really strikes a nerve!
Well maybe you shouldn't bring up things like minorities, slaves, and LGBT when you are trying to discuss hockey? Weird...
 
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Or we are not making political posts at all we are just saying that trying to accomplish 7 things simultaneously vs just 1 specific goal is a distraction and you accomplish none of them. I just gave exact examples?

So let’s say you accomplish everything on that list except winning the Stanley cup. Isn’t the LA Kings a hockey team? Philanthropy is great and I support all of those issues but if it is distracting the LA Kings hockey team from winning the Stanley cup isn’t it in the wrong context?

Me and my wife sponsor 6 children in countries with zero infrastructure or what you and I would call basic life resources and I personally donated over 40k in meals to kids from South American countries here on athlete visas training Jiu Jitsu in the inland empire and greater salt lake area. So don’t come at me with any homer than thou or high horse bullshit because I would bet another 40k you haven’t done the work!

Matthew Chapter 6:

1) Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

2Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

3)But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:

4That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
 

Raccoon Jesus

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I thought it was Doctor??? What the f*** dude, stop downgrading yourself.


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King'sPawn

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They can’t chew gum and walk at the same time is my point.

I just take great exception to KingsPawn who can be a very nice guy at times wining and saying shit is political or making accusations that I’m some sort of bigot when I can guarantee he hasn’t done a quarter for “the world” that I have done. Sometimes people do shit and don’t ask for publicity out of it or try to market it. I don’t even write it off on my taxes to be 100% transparent about it. So being labeled as some sort of bigot when the truth is completely contrary really strikes a nerve!
I'm sorry I struck a nerve. I obviously don't know you well enough to call you a bigot.

But you have expressed viewpoints on topics that are red flags and, unfortunately, are either contributory or emblematic of viewpoints that hurt others (even if not expressed by you). And for some reason, despite attempts to contextualize these sociopolitical issues, there are flippant responses to dismiss the concern these topics.

You contribute more financially to those in need than I do or can. I'm thankful you do that. But generous people can be unaware of their biases or how their attitudes can be harmful to others.
 

Peter James Bond III

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Here’s a hot take.

Byfield turns into RNH if we are lucky!
You know full well it’s coming:

Byfield averages 15 goals, 35 assists years 1-4 of his 5 year deal. Year 5, he finally peaks with 45 goals, 55 assist year. Then his 6.25 deal, in which he played 4.25 hockey….will garner a 11.5, 8 year deal.

(11.5 the going rate by 2029-30 or whatever yr this is)
 
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SaltyElkHunter

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I'm sorry I struck a nerve. I obviously don't know you well enough to call you a bigot.

But you have expressed viewpoints on topics that are red flags and, unfortunately, are either contributory or emblematic of viewpoints that hurt others (even if not expressed by you). And for some reason, despite attempts to contextualize these sociopolitical issues, there are flippant responses to dismiss the concern these topics.

You contribute more financially to those in need than I do or can. I'm thankful you do that. But generous people can be unaware of their biases or how their attitudes can be harmful to others.
Financial contributions? WOW that’s patronizing as f***. Just stop dude. I don’t needed to be lectured about what “I’m really doing”. You can paint me as the bad guy if it makes your little world go around at an acceptable speed and we can just leave it at that.

I still stand by the fact that the Kings can’t save the world and win the Stanley cup at the same time. Pick one! Feel free to save the world in the offseason!

Soccer Mom Test:
Drives a Minivan or a Subaru? Check...
Has a kid? Check...
Kind of annoying at times? Dammit, Check...
*looks down at crotch
"Saved by a penis!"
This is my favorite reply in months. Your awesome dude!
 

King'sPawn

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Financial contributions? WOW that’s patronizing as f***. Just stop dude. I don’t needed to be lectured about what “I’m really doing”. You can paint me as the bad guy if it makes your little world go around at an acceptable speed and we can just leave it at that.

I still stand by the fact that the Kings can’t save the world and win the Stanley cup at the same time. Pick one! Feel free to save the world in the offseason!!
First, you put a financial value on your contributions, and said it's more than I do. I said you're right. I don't know how that's patronizing. I also recognized you're a generous person with what you give. So I don't know how that means I'm painting you as the bad guy.

I'm sorry if I upset or offended you, but it feels like you're trying to pick a fight at this point. Seems like it was your intention of this whole line of posts, so joke's on me for indulging you.
 
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SaltyElkHunter

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First, you put a financial value on your contributions, and said it's more than I do. I said you're right. I don't know how that's patronizing. I also recognized you're a generous person with what you give. So I don't know how that means I'm painting you as the bad guy.

I'm sorry if I upset or offended you, but it feels like you're trying to pick a fight at this point. Seems like it was your intention of this whole line of posts, so joke's on me for indulging you.
Yeah I’m not interested in getting gas lit anymore I’m good, go ahead and keep making the world a better place by telling people they said something not nice. Us real mother f***ers will be feeding people and making changes in the material world. Maybe go write an article that will change the world. Best of luck dude! Hahahaha
 

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