Post-Game Talk: Another Shit Effort, Another Predictable Loss, Rinse, Repeat

[pspot]

Missing the playoffs is the best case scenario if you're hoping for major changes to the roster and/or management. I'm hoping they do.

Major changes? All your top assets are tied up in nmc . The only option is to wait , throw something against the wall and see if it sticks

 

[AllHeartNoSkill]

Wow lots of great excuses here. They are just not a very good team, poorly constructed, cannot rise to the occasion when needed. basically just a very mediocre team.

A part of me feels like they players are also getting tired of running it back.

 

[Racer88]

A part of me feels like they players are also getting tired of running it back.

You are probably right. We absolutely have to get rid of 2 of the core 4 to build a proper team. The only ones that are not locked up are Marner and Tavares but we can’t trade them only let them walk. It’s going to be a long and painful process

 

[weems]

A coaching change might not make a difference but at the same time coaches do sometimes lose the room or their message becomes stale.

Through 40 games this current roster/coaching staff is clearly not the answer, so we're literally drawing to a coaching change or some huge homerun trade which is extremely hard to make.

I would love to see this core play under a no nonsense disciplinarian coach. Their shelf life is usually pretty short but maybe its the exact thing that is needed to push this group to the next level.

 

[AllHeartNoSkill]

I would love to see this core play under a no nonsense disciplinarian coach. Their shelf life is usually pretty short but maybe its the exact thing that is needed to push this group to the next level.

If the goal is getting NMC’s waived, not such a bad idea.

 

[Orfieus]

Fire Keefe and Shamascam yesterday (I know I'm screaming pointlessly into the void).

There is a 0% chance Tre is going to fire Keefe mid season, people forget giving Keefe a contract extension was the first thing he did as a Leafs GM

Shanahan should be fired for hiring Tre tho

 

[weems]

If the goal is getting NMC’s waived, not such a bad idea.

Yep that is true which is also quite sad at the same time.

 

[Jojalu]

This is going to be a tough 6 games heading into the Allstar break.

They had better get something figured out or they could enter the break on the outside looking in.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

me I love to watch the playoffs man. I bristle at all the sportsnet shift clock line-change play-by-play all year and then in the playoffs it all kind of makes sense

I think you misunderstood.

I wasn't implying they would be better off missing the playoffs. But rather if they are gonna make them, only to go out early every year, they would be better off squeaking in so they get a better pick. Coming in tops of the league in the regular season is meaningless outside of bragger's rights.

Home ice advantage hasn't been much of an advantage for this team.

 

[Nineteen67]

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It is absolutely unbelievable how much he’s regressed in the last 2-3 years.

What happened to the guy in the Covid divison realignment year who was paired with Holl and shutdown McDavid in nearly 3 straight games???? for 2 games and 59 and a half minutes to be exact.


It is absolutely unbelievable how much he’s regressed in the last 2-3 years.

What happened to the guy in the Covid divison realignment year who was paired with Holl and shutdown McDavid in nearly 3 straight games???? for 2 games and 59 and a half minutes to be exact.


Edit: Why was this posted twice? Lol.

He got injured last year and it seems they played too much after he returned. I don’t know if that’s the reason, but and he lost it late last year and was awful in the playoffs.

When they didn’t trade him in the summer I assumed the thinking was he was playing hurt against Tampa and Florida and that he rehabilitated in the off-season.

 

[Gary Nylund]

If they keep losing games in hand, you are right that I may have to adjust my prediction. How do you lose to Detroit at home?

You didn't predict, you guaranteed it would happen.

As of today, the Leafs are tied for14-17th overall in regulation PTS%. I said many times that they're better than this but maybe I'm wrong, maybe this is what they are - a bubble team, 1st round fodder.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

is every team bipolar?
Or just us?

I’ve longed for a team that consistently plays to their ability. By no means does that mean winning every game , or not ever laying an egg.

I just haven’t seen a team that im confident will be able to put their foot on the throat of a team in the playoffs.

We aren’t a team that has the ability to sweep anyone, and that’s concerning. Not that you have to sweep teams to win, but we’re the same rollercoaster team that losses to Boston, Columbus and Montreal.

And I’m confident we’d allow everyone (maybe not the sharks) a chance to get back in the series, if we were matched up.

 

[shaner8989]

Guanratee we won’t be in a playoff spot come the all star break. Perfect time to blow this shit up. Fire coach, Shanahan, major trade. Something.

 

[Nineteen67]

Weird all around.

Not a Dubas fan and I am 100% certain either MM or Willie would had been traded to SJ for EK if he stayed. But I am also 100% certain he would not had traded Lafferty and re-sign Schenn. Would be a coin flip between Acciari and Kampf but might be either as there is Lafferty. Not sure would ROR resigns as I think ROR didn't want to resign but then don't think a lot of teams was jumping to sign him either and thats why he began to warm the idea of resigning with the Leafs and then jumped at Preds' offer.

In hindsight, I think the team might actually be better with either MM or Willie gone and have EK(think he would have a better season if he is with the Leafs). TJ will also be traded to make room too.

Team might have look like this

Domi-AM-MM/Willie
Bert-JT-Calle
Knies-ROR(Klingberg's caphit)-Toffoli(used the TJ's caphit) if MM is the one going to SJ /Robbie(if Willie is the one going to SJ)
Gregor/McMann-Holmberg-Lafferty

Reilly-Schenn
McCabe-EK
Gio/Benoit-Lilly

Sammy and Woll

Gawd, you're right he probably would have traded for EK.

And Benoit likely wouldn't have been signed.

is every team bipolar?
Or just us?

I’ve longed for a team that consistently plays to their ability. By no means does that mean winning every game , or not ever laying an egg.

I just haven’t seen a team that im confident will be able to put their foot on the throat of a team in the playoffs.

We aren’t a team that has the ability to sweep anyone, and that’s concerning. Not that you have to sweep teams to win, but we’re the same rollercoaster team that losses to Boston, Columbus and Montreal.

And I’m confident we’d allow everyone (maybe not the sharks) a chance to get back in the series, if we were matched up.

But they are playing to their abilities.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Shanahan should be fired for basically ruining the best chance this team has had at a Stanley Cup in two decades

Fixed

 

[Evilhomer]

Feels like there are too many fundamental problems at multiple positions to expect a couple of D way on the wrong side of 30 to bring this group back to pseudo contender status. They look like a team where the wheels are going to fall off and just tumble down the standings.

I think their offensive players are so good that they will continue to win the team games on their own. Whether that is a good thing or not is a fair debate, but I think it's the reality.

 

[leafs in five]

And Benoit likely wouldn't have been signed.

the horror

 

[Nineteen67]

Guanratee we won’t be in a playoff spot come the all star break. Perfect time to blow this shit up. Fire coach, Shanahan, major trade. Something.

Tough to trade right now.

Do any of the teams that are out have much to offer that that fits the long term? The teams on the bubble don’t want to make a mistake and the Leafs don’t have a lot to offer that would push them over.
I know Nashville stills needs scoring and have lots of draft picks, but other than Marner, who could the Leafs offer?

 

[leafs in five]

I think you misunderstood.

I wasn't implying they would be better off missing the playoffs. But rather if they are gonna make them, only to go out early every year, they would be better off squeaking in so they get a better pick. Coming in tops of the league in the regular season is meaningless outside of bragger's rights.

Home ice advantage hasn't been much of an advantage for this team.

ah ok, got it. I suppose that makes sense.

 

[Nineteen67]

the horror

Actually Benoit has been a good signing. I’d rather worry about signing or trading him than waiting for EK‘s contract to slide off the books.

 

[Evilhomer]

I wouldn't object to a coaching change, but this isn't the old days of Lou making a coaching change with 5 games left in the season. I think if you reach 45-50 games a team would be hesitant to make a change that late into the season. The reality is that the Leafs are unlikely to go on a 6 or 7 game losing streak because they will likely win one of the Edmonton or Calgary games, which I think will keep Keefe safe.

A coaching change might not make a difference but at the same time coaches do sometimes lose the room or their message becomes stale.

Through 40 games this current roster/coaching staff is clearly not the answer, so we're literally drawing to a coaching change or some huge homerun trade which is extremely hard to make.

I would love to see this core play under a no nonsense disciplinarian coach. Their shelf life is usually pretty short but maybe its the exact thing that is needed to push this group to the next level.

 

[BallardEra]

If this was a month or so earlier I would fire Keefe, but at this stage I'm not sure how many suitable candidates there are, and I just don't like the idea of firing a coach this far into the season for a team that is (likely) going to go to the playoffs.

Even then, do you expect Keefe to out coach anyone in the playoffs?

 

[hoglund]

Guanratee we won’t be in a playoff spot come the all star break. Perfect time to blow this shit up. Fire coach, Shanahan, major trade. Something.

I think that's irrational thinking and a total overreation.

 

[BallardEra]

Tough to trade right now.

Do any of the teams that are out have much to offer that that fits the long term? The teams on the bubble don’t want to make a mistake and the Leafs don’t have a lot to offer that would push them over.
I know Nashville stills needs scoring and have lots of draft picks, but other than Marner, who could the Leafs offer?

Problem is that it's such a parity league that so many teams feel/think they still have a shot at making the playoffs this season.

Not that many teams looking to sell off any goods.

 

[bobber]

They Keefe'd another game away.

Do Leaf fans drink O'Keefes?