another great article from the Athletic...

[Bandit]

define large point jump

bigger than a baby's arm.

 

[Lt Dan]

You have people saying that they could be a playoff team or be right there. That's not going to happen. They will have to jump several teams to get there and they don't have the horses to do that anymore. Every year, guys like Carter get older and he isn't a workout warrior either. Players like Justin Williams are rare in that they keep it up as they age. Hockey destroys bodies as they age. For the Kings to make any jump, they will need big seasons from several older players. That's asking a lot.

LOL

Read and understand the quote . He meant that feared that the surgence of a few players might make us a playoff team and endanger the rebuild not that he is already putting money in a sock to buy four rounds of playoff tickets.

The Kings can easily win 7 more games just based on not having Phaneuf on defense and a coach that other players believe in

 

[Lt Dan]

bigger than a baby's arm.

diameter or length?

 

[Crunchrulz]

Take it with a grain of salt. Only three franchises can claim two or more Stanley Cups in the last decade, and this group which is so disrespected is indeed one of them. Haters gonna hate, but we can't read their hate with a ring covering each eye.

 

[The Tikkanen]

Seeing Toffoli at the Dodger game I wouldn't expect a bounce back season. He still looks like a Kings player's teenage son.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Seeing Toffoli at the Dodger game I wouldn't expect a bounce back season. He still looks like a Kings player's teenage son.

He put up 31 goals looking like that. Not sure the fitness-in-a-tee eye test is the best way to evaluate talent.

 

[The Tikkanen]

He put up 31 goals looking like that. Not sure the fitness-in-a-tee eye test is the best way to evaluate talent.

I know. I remember seeing Gretzky with his shirt off on SNL. The horror.

 

[Sol]

What an awful article. I subscribed for this shit smh

 

[kingsfan28]

I think we can expect bounce backs from at least 3 of 5 of Kopitar, Toffoli, Quick, Doughty and Kovalchuk. Maybe even through Carter having a better season in there. So this scares me as I think it will push LA not into the playoffs but high enough to miss out on the best draft odds.

Chicago moved up 12 spots. Anything can happen, like NJ getting the top pick...AGAIN!

 

[kingsfan28]

projecting the Kings to finish with 58 points in 2020...LOL

Projecting the 2019-20 NHL standings: How does each roster...

Trash article. I expected more from that internet rag.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

Trash article. I expected more from that internet rag.

I'm frankly not sure what people think is so objectionable about that article. It's not some guy's subjective opinion being used to guess point totals. Whether you agree with the methodology or not, and whether it actually is a good methodology or not, every single team's point projection is based on a uniformly applied statistical model. It's not an arbitrary number someone came up with to try and make the Kings look bad.

There's a pretty clear qualifier and explainer at the top:

To answer this question, Shayna Goldman and I ran each writer’s expected lineup through Sean Tierney’s lineup tool to evaluate each roster against the same set of measures and calculations.

You can read more on how the lineup tool works here, but basically it evaluates a lineup in terms of combinations and the anticipated ice time based on role. Then, using wins above replacement (WAR) data from Evolving-Hockey, each team’s anticipated standings points is calculated.

There are some important limitations to know going into this analysis:

• We restricted our lineup evaluation to 12 forwards, six defensemen and two goaltenders
• For rookies and prospects outside the NHL, Tierney used Emmanuel Perry’s prospect data for his projections and, given how these players can be evaluated, their WAR values should be taken with a grain of salt
• If a rookie or prospect outside the NHL wasn’t included in our WAR data set, we used the value of a replacement level player – so there’s obviously room for improvement there
• In terms of TOI distribution across lines, pairs and goaltenders, we used the ones Tierney suggests. The only exception is when a writer specifically noted exceptions for goaltenders.
• If teams tied in standings points, we used total team WAR as a tie-breaker

There are definitely some weird results and outliers, and we’ve noted why for each, but overall this was a fun look at how things might just stack up come next season.

As they noted in the Kings' section:

Another flag we noted in this exercise is the impact of being descriptive of what has happened, and last year’s performance surely impacts this Kings prediction.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Chicago moved up 12 spots. Anything can happen, like NJ getting the top pick...AGAIN!

Yeah, the current lottery really has made tanking not as profitable as it could be. In the 4 years:

31st - 1
30th - 1
29th - 1
28th - 1
27th - 2
26th - 1
25th - 1
24th - 1
21st - 1
20th - 1
19th - 1

That's how often a team finishing in one of those spots has won the top 3 pick lottery. The 1st overall pick has gone to the 30th, 27th, 31st, and 29th overall teams, and twice to the last overall team, so it is still better to finish as low as possible, but even if you happen to win a few meaningless games, you can still benefit.

If you really want to get rid of tanking, you either have a 2005 league wide type lottery where every pick has the same chance of winning any position as every other pick, or just get rid of the draft entirely.

 

[Matt13]

Take it with a grain of salt. Only three franchises can claim two or more Stanley Cups in the last decade, and this group which is so disrespected is indeed one of them. Haters gonna hate, but we can't read their hate with a ring covering each eye.

Rings have holes where the fingers go through. You can totally see though them.

 

[King'sPawn]

Yeah, the current lottery really has made tanking not as profitable as it could be. In the 4 years:

31st - 1
30th - 1
29th - 1
28th - 1
27th - 2
26th - 1
25th - 1
24th - 1
21st - 1
20th - 1
19th - 1

That's how often a team finishing in one of those spots has won the top 3 pick lottery. The 1st overall pick has gone to the 30th, 27th, 31st, and 29th overall teams, and twice to the last overall team, so it is still better to finish as low as possible, but even if you happen to win a few meaningless games, you can still benefit.

If you really want to get rid of tanking, you either have a 2005 league wide type lottery where every pick has the same chance of winning any position as every other pick, or just get rid of the draft entirely.

Getting rid of the draft or the 2005 lottery creates a much bigger problem of giving the rich teams (either by talent or finances) get richer.

This hybrid lottery ensures a high pick for talent starved teams but tells them they aren't guaranteed a generational player to save them.

Even though both times the Kings have been pushed back in the pick (from 10th to 11th in 2017 and from 2nd to 5th in 2019), I still maintain this is the ideal system to any other been proposed so far.