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Prospect Info: Andersson, Chytil, Pionk, Shestyorkin named to WC rosters

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Wooren said:
Bulletproof arguments right there. You persuaded me.

A mid-tier Extraliga team would beat this year's Czech WJC team. Some awful prospect overrating going on here.
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It was an hyperbole, relax. Anyway, Chytil and Zadina looked better than the rest of the players in the 3 games that I watched in these pre WHC tournaments.
 
why would I argue with you? the other guy is right add necas to chytil kaut and zadina and those would be your 4 best players. I'm sorry that a first line with roman horak centering it doesn't elicit much doubt in my belief here.
 
To think that Nečas, Chytil, Zadina and Kaut would be the best forwards on the Czech team is utterly ridiculous. Are they the most talented/promising guys ? Sure. But in no way they are the cornerstoness of that squad.

Nečas has fantastic wheels, he's a great PP QB and possesses superb stickhandling but Worlds are not some beer league competition, he won't be able to pull these off every shift. This was evident in Extraliga final this year. His play suffered once there was no time and space to pull fancy stuff off. He needs some time to adjust to this imo.

Kaut is an amazing all-around player for his age, he's a perfect fit for a bottom 6 role + useful on both PP and PK.

Zadina showed flashes of brilliance in those games, he tried really hard but you could se he was often lost during board battles against bigger guys and his D-zone play wasn't good either which could really hurt the team when you look at that defense ..

Chytil is the best player from this group at the moment. He's probably the only one who is really 100% to make some serious impact on the big stage.
 
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Voodoozz said:
To think that Nečas, Chytil, Zadina and Kaut would be the best forwards on the Czech team is utterly ridiculous. Are they the most talented/promising guys ? Sure. But in no way they are the cornerstoness of that squad.

Nečas has fantastic wheels, he's a great PP QB and possesses superb stickhandling but Worlds are not some beer league competition, he won't be able to pull these off every shift. This was evident in Extraliga final this year. His play suffered once there was no time and space to pull fancy stuff off. He needs some time to adjust to this imo.

Kaut is an amazing all-around player for his age, he's a perfect fit for a bottom 6 role + useful on both PP and PK.

Zadina showed flashes of brilliance in those games, he tried really hard but you could se he was often lost during board battles against bigger guys and his D-zone play wasn't good either which could really hurt the team when you look at that defense ..

Chytil is the best player from this group at the moment. He's probably the only one who is really 100% to make some serious impact on the big stage.
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@Kovalev27 is known to use some extreme hyperbole around here but I think his point stands. Czech's haven't had such a talented crop of forwards in awhile so they should be doing their best to start building their team around them right now, and live through the growing pains because as someone put it - the team is closer to Slovak level than Finnish, Swedish or Russian in Euro hierarchy.

Now there might be alternative reasons for not having Zadina in this tournament but it should not be because he's 18 and this is a "World Championship"
 
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kovazub94 said:
@Kovalev27 is known to use some extreme hyperbole around here but I think his point stands. Czech's haven't had such a talented crop of forwards in awhile so they should be doing their best to start building their team around them right now, and live through the growing pains because as someone put it - the team is closer to Slovak level than Finnish, Swedish or Russian in Euro hierarchy.

Now there might be alternative reasons for not having Zadina in this tournament but it should not be because he's 18 and this is a "World Championship"
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I wasn't arguing that. I listed some things which might be the reasons why Z was cut to prove that he's far from being the 'best player' on that squad. I wouldn't mind him there but he wouldn't make the team much better. This team looks bad on paper mainly because a lot of guys have been injured or said they're not coming, especially. The average age is around 25, 3 guys are 19 and younger. Could be worse. The defense looks pretty bad but "losing" 4 key D's to the NHL in the last 2 years doesn't help. There's a chance they might invite Hronek if the GR get eliminated.
 
Voodoozz said:
To think that Nečas, Chytil, Zadina and Kaut would be the best forwards on the Czech team is utterly ridiculous. Are they the most talented/promising guys ? Sure. But in no way they are the cornerstoness of that squad.

Nečas has fantastic wheels, he's a great PP QB and possesses superb stickhandling but Worlds are not some beer league competition, he won't be able to pull these off every shift. This was evident in Extraliga final this year. His play suffered once there was no time and space to pull fancy stuff off. He needs some time to adjust to this imo.

Kaut is an amazing all-around player for his age, he's a perfect fit for a bottom 6 role + useful on both PP and PK.

Zadina showed flashes of brilliance in those games, he tried really hard but you could se he was often lost during board battles against bigger guys and his D-zone play wasn't good either which could really hurt the team when you look at that defense ..

Chytil is the best player from this group at the moment. He's probably the only one who is really 100% to make some serious impact on the big stage.
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I'm just happy that you said that Chytil is the best at the moment so I will not disagree about the rest with you sir.
 
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Voodoozz said:
To think that Nečas, Chytil, Zadina and Kaut would be the best forwards on the Czech team is utterly ridiculous. Are they the most talented/promising guys ? Sure. But in no way they are the cornerstoness of that squad.

Nečas has fantastic wheels, he's a great PP QB and possesses superb stickhandling but Worlds are not some beer league competition, he won't be able to pull these off every shift. This was evident in Extraliga final this year. His play suffered once there was no time and space to pull fancy stuff off. He needs some time to adjust to this imo.

Kaut is an amazing all-around player for his age, he's a perfect fit for a bottom 6 role + useful on both PP and PK.

Zadina showed flashes of brilliance in those games, he tried really hard but you could se he was often lost during board battles against bigger guys and his D-zone play wasn't good either which could really hurt the team when you look at that defense ..

Chytil is the best player from this group at the moment. He's probably the only one who is really 100% to make some serious impact on the big stage.
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I’m sorry so I said they’re the best players which you say is ridiculous but your next sentence is that they’re the most talented lol. Play your most talented players because outside of these kids your most talented player is 45 years old (jagr)

Not sure why so upset these kids are still Czech I didn’t say you didn’t have Any talented players at all
 
Kovalev27 said:
I’m sorry so I said they’re the best players which you say is ridiculous but your next sentence is that they’re the most talented lol. Play your most talented players because outside of these kids your most talented player is 45 years old (jagr)

Not sure why so upset these kids are still Czech I didn’t say you didn’t have Any talented players at all
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You are missing his point. Kaut, Zadina, Necas and Chytil are potentially elite players. They have the potential to be their best players. But they are not the best players at the moment.

I think the biggest issue with Zadina is the jump from juniors to playing against professionals when on the national team. He is insanely talented, but in the recent games for his national team, he just didn't impress. I saw him play in Pardubice, and I honestly can't remember a single moment where he stood out. Kaut and Chytil did. Take away the draft buzz surrounding Zadina, and dropping him makes a lot of sense.
 
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So, what are the odds that the IIHF panel was all-Canadian? The only people I saw whining about it were Canadians
 
UnSandvich said:
So, what are the odds that the IIHF panel was all-Canadian? The only people I saw getting upset about it were Canadians
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If you read the article, the players/coaches who were suspended were all suspended because they took off their silver medals immediately after being presented with them. There are actually rules in place that state they have to be worn for the duration of the ceremony. Apparently, players were even warned about it, but took them off anyway. Lias got 4 games instead of 2 for throwing his into the stands.

I don't think there's any bias here and it's something Lias shouldn't have done. I'm all for passion, but there are better ways to show it.
 
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GAGLine said:
If you read the article, the players/coaches who were suspended were all suspended because they took off their silver medals immediately after being presented with them. There are actually rules in place that state they have to be worn for the duration of the ceremony. Apparently, players were even warned about it, but took them off anyway. Lias got 4 games instead of 2 for throwing his into the stands.

I don't think there's any bias here and it's something Lias shouldn't have done. I'm all for passion, but there are better ways to show it.
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What a stupid rule.
 
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