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unicornBLOOD said:
it was an UGLY win, but 2 points is 2 points.
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I survived the double decade of darkness (Czechs and oilers legitmately sucked for 15 years at the same time.lol) and I gotta tell you.. I remember those Oiler's West Coast swings and you guys, LA and SJ would all play to 50% while we killed ourselves only to lose constantly. So I'll take all these ugly half assed wins because I was the victim of them for so long.lol Czechs were no different.. they'd hustle and hustle and hustle and lose to nations just kind of putting in enough to put us away. I even wrote an article on how many backups the OIlers faced (and lost) too.lol We were the team you pull out your backup for.haha

Nonetheless,



Hope Gibson's okay. Noticed he didn't finish last night.
 
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Feel free to laugh but I'm not sure I do Skinner for Gibson straight up at this point.

If we can't do better than Gibson, then we can dream of getting a better goalie on another season.
 
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russ99 said:
Why are we dumping a good prospect in Akey just for a lateral move at best?
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"Lateral move at best" infers a zero percent chance that Gibson could provide steadier goaltending than Skinner, which is an indefensible stance IMO.

Not saying OP's offer makes sense, nor am I making any guarantees about how Gibson would fare in Edmonton - but the odds of him being better than Skinner are greater than zero.
 
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WhatTheDuck said:
"Lateral move at best" infers a zero percent chance that Gibson could provide steadier goaltending than Skinner, which is an indefensible stance IMO.

Not saying OP's offer makes sense, nor am I making any guarantees about how Gibson would fare in Edmonton - but the odds of him being better than Skinner are greater than zero.
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Maybe greater than zero but Oilers fans are paranoid about Skinner, and don't realize what they have. Gibson could be just as streaky being similarly hung out to dry by a lack of skater focus without the puck and Skinner could go on a tear on a new team with a greater focus on team defensive responsibility.

Oilers fans expect another goalie to come in on a sub $5M contract and make all the tough saves on wide open looks that our team gives up, which is not realistically possible.
 
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russ99 said:
Maybe greater than zero but Oilers fans are paranoid about Skinner, and don't realize what they have. Gibson could be just as streaky being similarly hung out to dry by a lack of skater focus without the puck and Skinner could go on a tear on a new team with a greater focus on team defensive responsibility.

Oilers fans expect another goalie to come in on a sub $5M contract and make all the tough saves on wide open looks that our team gives up, which is not realistically possible.
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Yeah it seems like it takes very little track record of success in order for a goalie to get paid these days. Just not realistic to expect good + consistent + cheap/risk free all in one goalie, a concession would have to be made on one of those.


Czechboy said:
I survived the double decade of darkness (Czechs and oilers legitmately sucked for 15 years at the same time.lol) and I gotta tell you.. I remember those Oiler's West Coast swings and you guys, LA and SJ would all play to 50% while we killed ourselves only to lose constantly. So I'll take all these ugly half assed wins because I was the victim of them for so long.lol Czechs were no different.. they'd hustle and hustle and hustle and lose to nations just kind of putting in enough to put us away. I even wrote an article on how many backups the OIlers faced (and lost) too.lol We were the team you pull out your backup for.haha

Nonetheless,



Hope Gibson's okay. Noticed he didn't finish last night.
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Gibson is practicing today
 
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Reality Czech said:
Their defense is top 5 or their offense is just really good at keeping the puck in the attacking zone? The Oilers D corps isn't that great
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I mean, they're effectively the same thing.

russ99 said:
Maybe greater than zero but Oilers fans are paranoid about Skinner, and don't realize what they have. Gibson could be just as streaky being similarly hung out to dry by a lack of skater focus without the puck and Skinner could go on a tear on a new team with a greater focus on team defensive responsibility.

Oilers fans expect another goalie to come in on a sub $5M contract and make all the tough saves on wide open looks that our team gives up, which is not realistically possible.
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Edmonton gives up the fewest high danger chances in the league per 60 minutes. Oiler fans need to watch more hockey around the league. It's the goalie's job to stop the high danger chances.
 
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WhatTheDuck said:
Yeah a quick glance at his game logs shows that a large percentage of his wins come against teams who can't score, he's beaten Nashville three times etc
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Exactly. He's played well, but I would prefer a backup who we know can play well against anyone, not the teams that struggle to generate quality scoring chances.
 
MessierThanThou said:
Gibson is 5th in GSAx since the last post:

NHL Goalie Advanced Stats 2024-2025

NHL Goalie Analytics, Goals Saved Above Expected
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Anaheim has a legitimate chance at making the playoffs with their tandem so he might not even be available anymore...
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No they dont. They have a very very small chance.
The team is terrible and the goalies are propping them up.

The are 3rd last in XGF, 2nd last in XGA. They have the best goals against above expected, thanks to their goalies.
 
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Gliff said:
No they dont. They have a very very small chance.
The team is terrible and the goalies are propping them up.

The are 3rd last in XGF, 2nd last in XGA. They have the best goals against above expected, thanks to their goalies.
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Well, as an Oil fan, I hope they give up on making the playoffs and are willing to send Gibson to Edmonton before the deadline.
 
Not sure why there are/were so many Oiler fans hesitant to take on Gibson. I wanted the trade earlier this year but supposedly Skinner will magically become the next Dubnyk once he's traded and turn into a Vezina calibre goalie. Even though the window is now and Gibson gives them a better shot this year and next. Salaries are basically a wash at 50%.

Doesn't seem like this trade will happen though. Edmonton's brass seems intent on making it work. Skinner's numbers, although still bad, are propped up by Edmonton playing a great defensive structure for the past 2 seasons.
 
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Connor McConnor said:
Not sure why there are/were so many Oiler fans hesitant to take on Gibson.
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Oh I get it, people weren't sure if his bad numbers were all him or just the team. Entirely fair to not want to roll the dice, there was a legit argument both ways.

Of course now he's showing that with even a slightly better defense (normal range of bad instead of historically bad) he's still pretty damn capable. With the explosion in goalie salaries, the cap rising, his lack of an overly long remaining term, and his present usefulness to the Ducks, however, it's probably going to take more to pry him out of there than it would have before the season. They can ride it out and just sell him at next year's TDL worst case.
 
russ99 said:
Maybe greater than zero but Oilers fans are paranoid about Skinner, and don't realize what they have. Gibson could be just as streaky being similarly hung out to dry by a lack of skater focus without the puck and Skinner could go on a tear on a new team with a greater focus on team defensive responsibility.

Oilers fans expect another goalie to come in on a sub $5M contract and make all the tough saves on wide open looks that our team gives up, which is not realistically possible.
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The defensive metrics suggest that the Oilers D are making fewer mistakes than most of the other teams, while Skinner's lowly GSAx suggests that he isn't stopping as many quality shots as the majority of other goalies (not just starters) in the league.

Also, not sure if you know this, but The Hockey Writers recently ranked Skinner 26th out of the 32 starting goalies in the league. Everyone below him was on non-playoff teams.

And how many games has he had this season where he implodes in the first period and sets us back right away? There's too many to even count.

I think many Oiler fans realize what we have in Skinner, and it scares us...
 
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