Confirmed with Link: [ANA/STL] Cam Fowler and 2027 4th round pick for 2027 2nd round and Jeremie Biakabutuka

[TheDarkWingThatDucks]

Not trolling, where was he open about wanting a trade? All I’ve seen is him being open to one, after Verbeek brought it up, and it seems like it was made clear he wasn’t wanted.

All I’ve seen were insiders saying they’d heard he wanted to play for a contender, I never heard a word about him wanting out from anyone Ducks or Ducks adjacent.

I think the issue with Verbeek is that he is always the one throwing in the sweetener, whilst never receiving one.

He got the sweetener when he tried for Dadanov …….

 

[Ducks DVM]

He got the sweetener when he tried for Dadanov …….

I guess he learned his lesson

Good recall

 

[LuGBuG]

Fowler isn't a victim here. His play was uninspired, he was open about wanting a trade. Verbeek has made moves that are open to criticism, but this isn't one of them.

I don’t think it was a bad move at all and agree Fowler isn’t a victim. I just can understand everything surrounding what was happening impacting his play negatively. He’s been here his entire career, knew he was on his way out and there is a lot of hockey stress and real life stress that comes along with that.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Not trolling, where was he open about wanting a trade? All I’ve seen is him being open to one, after Verbeek brought it up, and it seems like it was made clear he wasn’t wanted.

All I’ve seen were insiders saying they’d heard he wanted to play for a contender, I never heard a word about him wanting out from anyone Ducks or Ducks adjacent.

I think the issue with Verbeek is that he is always the one throwing in the sweetener, whilst never receiving one.

Verbeek is busy right now. Dealing with these outright lies from keith handle. Poor guy, can’t catch a break

 

[Deuce22]

Not trolling, where was he open about wanting a trade? All I’ve seen is him being open to one, after Verbeek brought it up, and it seems like it was made clear he wasn’t wanted.

All I’ve seen were insiders saying they’d heard he wanted to play for a contender, I never heard a word about him wanting out from anyone Ducks or Ducks adjacent.

I think the issue with Verbeek is that he is always the one throwing in the sweetener, whilst never receiving one.

Wanting to play for a contender equals open to a trade for me. Ducks aren't contending anytime soon. I agree with your last paragraph, but sometimes you just have to take your medicine to do what needs to be done.

 

[Lord Flashheart]

Trouba is a few years younger than cam, a former captain, Big and right handed. All of that said… Trouba >>> Fowler moving forward

Let's not pretend like Trouba is some huge upgrade. He's already made quite a few mistakes, he's frequently behind the play, and his mobility is not good, all of these are bound to get even more exaggarated as he gets older. On the other hand he does bring some physicality and muscles in the crease. Interestingly enough, "everyones" new favorite descriptor of hockey games, Stat cards, had him, from memory, mostly in the negative in the games he played ao far.

As Verbeek said in the intermission of last game, trading Fowler will give younger guys opportunity to grow, meaning that, among other things, it will force the coach to play younger guys more.

 

[Deuce22]

Let's not pretend like Trouba is some huge upgrade. He's already made quite a few mistakes, he's frequently behind the play, and his mobility is not good, all of these are bound to get even more exaggarated as he gets older. On the other hand he does bring some physicality and muscles in the crease. Interestingly enough, "everyones" new favorite descriptor of hockey games, Stat cards, had him, from memory, mostly in the negative in the games he played ao far.

As Verbeek said in the intermission of last game, trading Fowler will give younger guys opportunity to grow, meaning that, among other things, it will force the coach to play younger guys more.

Fowler, as an offensively focused LHD, was redundant with our young LHD. Trouba is a better fit with those guys and balances out the pairings. If he was good, Rangers wouldn't have be desperate to dump him. Hopefully, he's a short term fix until Luneau is ready and Moore (fingers crossed) gets signed.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Wanting to play for a contender equals open to a trade for me. Ducks aren't contending anytime soon. I agree with your last paragraph, but sometimes you just have to take your medicine to do what needs to be done.

Open to a trade yes. That’s much different than asking for a trade though.

I feel like he’s the new kid being taken advantage of because he either plays too much hardball and loses out or doesn’t play enough hardball and gets taken advantage of.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Fowler, as an offensively focused LHD, was redundant with our young LHD. Trouba is a better fit with those guys and balances out the pairings. If he was good, Rangers wouldn't have be desperate to dump him. Hopefully, he's a short term fix until Luneau is ready and Moore (fingers crossed) gets signed.

I think Moore is why Dumoulin and Gudas won’t be extended. He won’t sign if he’s blocked long term.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I think Moore is why Dumoulin and Gudas won’t be extended. He won’t sign if he’s blocked long term.

I forgot about moore… is he even doing much ?

 

[robbieboy3686]

I think Moore is why Dumoulin and Gudas won’t be extended. He won’t sign if he’s blocked long term.

Gudas is making it, where at best we announce that next season will be his last as a ducks captain.

 

[robbieboy3686]

I forgot about moore… is he even doing much ?

Keith yandle says Moore would rather play in Alaska, than for the ducks.

 

[70sSanO]

I think Moore is why Dumoulin and Gudas won’t be extended. He won’t sign if he’s blocked long term.

I haven’t given up on Helleson yet. Luneau has the potential of a top pair.

If Verbeek re-signs Trouba, it needs to be short term with a doctor’s discount.

John

 

[70sSanO]

Keith yandle says Moore would rather play in Alaska, than for the ducks.

I hear Anchorage is slated for a 2050 expansion. It is a small market, but a pretty captive one.

John

 

[MCB]

I hear Anchorage is slated for a 2050 expansion. It is a small market, but a pretty captive one.

John

Lol whenever I make my own team in EA NHL I always make it in anchorage (only because it's where I was born)

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I hear Anchorage is slated for a 2050 expansion. It is a small market, but a pretty captive one.

John

Their GM will be Scott Gomez. He's from there and played for an ECHL team in Anchorage during one of the lockouts in the 2000s.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

The bigger issue here for me is someone who has been here 14 years, never caused a problem, never complained about things even when bad wanted out so badly he'd go to another mediocre team


Something is not right here with how the organization is being run. Ownership needs to be paying more attention

 

[duckpuck]

Fowler, as an offensively focused LHD, was redundant with our young LHD. Trouba is a better fit with those guys and balances out the pairings. If he was good, Rangers wouldn't have be desperate to dump him. Hopefully, he's a short term fix until Luneau is ready and Moore (fingers crossed) gets signed.

This is exactly the point. Trouba better fits the ducks current needs.

And to that point, many here have (in my view correctly) criticized Cam's soft play. But what really bothers me is that in his entire time on the ducks, I never saw him stand up for a teammate. I don't mean fighting. I mean when there were scrums, I can't recall a single time where he was in the middle of it or actively mixing it up. I think that is why he was never captain and never could be.

The bigger issue here for me is someone who has been here 14 years, never caused a problem, never complained about things even when bad wanted out so badly he'd go to another mediocre team


Something is not right here with how the organization is being run. Ownership needs to be paying more attention

Why can't it just be about the player? He didn't fit in the ducks plans, was blocking younger guys, was seemingly in decline (or at least not playing well), and Fowler himself wanted to move on.

He was going to see reduced ice time and potentially be scratched. To me, finding a place for a guy in that situation and accepting a lesser return is actually the right thing to do for both the player and the organization. Moving on was best for all.

 

[JAHV]

Why can't it just be about the player? He didn't fit in the ducks plans, was blocking younger guys, was seemingly in decline (or at least not playing well), and Fowler himself wanted to move on.

He was going to see reduced ice time and potentially be scratched. To me, finding a place for a guy in that situation and accepting a lesser return is actually the right thing to do for both the player and the organization. Moving on was best for all.

Of course that's a possibility. It could just be Fowler wanting to move on and the Ducks accommodating him because it made sense for them, too.

But it's just a bit strange that a guy who's been a lifelong Duck - maybe not a fan favorite, but certainly a guy well-respected by (most) fans - has no desire to play 1,000 games with the team. The Ducks would have, presumably, made a big deal out of this. They could have sent him off after celebrating him with the well wishes and goodwill of the organization, feting him as he deserves. If Fowler wanted that, I'm sure they would have done it. It was like three more weeks.

So either Fowler didn't want it or he did and the organization shipped him out anyway (which is less likely since Fowler had to waive his NTC to move). By itself, maybe you take it as just business. But there is so much smoke around the organization - Murray was abusive, Verbeek is a hard negotiator and hard to work for, Cronin makes players hate playing for them, and the team continues to lose. It's difficult not to see this as part of that pattern - a longtime Duck is so tired of the organization he'd rather get traded 3 weeks before a huge milestone.

 

[Boo Boo]

Of course that's a possibility. It could just be Fowler wanting to move on and the Ducks accommodating him because it made sense for them, too.

But it's just a bit strange that a guy who's been a lifelong Duck - maybe not a fan favorite, but certainly a guy well-respected by (most) fans - has no desire to play 1,000 games with the team. The Ducks would have, presumably, made a big deal out of this. They could have sent him off after celebrating him with the well wishes and goodwill of the organization, feting him as he deserves. If Fowler wanted that, I'm sure they would have done it. It was like three more weeks.

So either Fowler didn't want it or he did and the organization shipped him out anyway (which is less likely since Fowler had to waive his NTC to move). By itself, maybe you take it as just business. But there is so much smoke around the organization - Murray was abusive, Verbeek is a hard negotiator and hard to work for, Cronin makes players hate playing for them, and the team continues to lose. It's difficult not to see this as part of that pattern - a longtime Duck is so tired of the organization he'd rather get traded 3 weeks before a huge milestone.

Not to mention that the team he was willing to waiver for is definitely not a playoff contender so it’s not as if this move was about cup chasing

 

[70sSanO]

The bigger issue here for me is someone who has been here 14 years, never caused a problem, never complained about things even when bad wanted out so badly he'd go to another mediocre team


Something is not right here with how the organization is being run. Ownership needs to be paying more attention

It is hard to imagine a player who has pushed through horrific injuries, bad teams, and laid it all out on the ice more than Stamkos.

That off IR to score in the 2020 SC finals is pretty legendary; not the same level as Kariya, but never-the-less.

But the organization didn’t want him anymore. The Preds may not end up as bottom feeders. But for Stamkos the current situation has to be the worse scenario for a HOF career.

John

 

[Terry Yake]

can't blame fowler for wanting out of this mess ASAP

verbeek probably made it clear to him that he preferred to move him ASAP as to give the young guys more playing time and fowler agreed to it knowing he wasn't in the team's future plans

 

[MMC]

 

[hockey webcomics]

I hear Anchorage is slated for a 2050 expansion

the alaska aces were pretty cool and so was the polar bear logo
bring'em back

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Beautiful statement.

This:
"Thank you to the amazing Ducks fans who have supported me and this team over all these years. It was always an honor for me to play in front of you all at Honda Center. You made it a fun building to play in and always supported us, even in some difficult seasons. The support you all showed to me, even at such a young age, is something I will never forget."

doesn’t apply to a lot of you here but it does to me! And it made me happy to read it.