Confirmed with Link: [ANA/PHI] Cutter Gauthier for Jamie Drysdale and 2025 2nd round pick

[SmokeyDuck]

looks like we’ll have to start our very own ducks podcast as a group


Meh it happens with a ton of big market teams.

Could change Philly to Toronto, Montreal, New York, Boston, pitt Detroit, etc and get the same result.

I am a recording engineer.

 

[ScarTroy]

What ever happened to the podcast Kesler and Bieksa did? I know they stopped acting COVID but did they say why?

 

[Rybread86]

I am a recording engineer.

Im a trash talking loud mouth, now all we need is someone smart

 

[MCB]

Im a trash talking loud mouth, now all we need is someone smart

I'm not smart, but I'm a video editor

 

[GunnarStahl]

I’m a good listener!

For the record I would listen to a podcast from you all, especially if it is put together well. Crash the pond is rather well put together but the perspectives and discussion presented are rather annoying and condescending many times, Locked on Ducks feels like I’m listening to a fictional sports news report, and the others are lacking quality both in production and hosts. Ducks stream is pretty nice especially their “From Mighty Till Now” and “A Mighty Journey” series, but its corporate at the end of the day so its doesn’t achieve the laidback setting of a typical podcast. It’s a definite hole in the market.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Coming from a realist. I'm gonna hold my opinion on his character up until he actually signs a contract. In my eyes he doesn't owe anybody an explanation as to why he decided not to play for Philly. But.... What he did is still in my eyes. Ethically wrong. Unless.... The organization is did something to him. Just like thrun didn't want to come here or what Schultz did to us. It's morally wrong. At this point we gotta just respect his personal decision and let him finish his college career. Good luck To .him

 

[GunnarStahl]

Coming from a realist. I'm gonna hold my opinion on his character up until he actually signs a contract. In my eyes he doesn't owe anybody an explanation as to why he decided not to play for Philly. But.... What he did is still in my eyes. Ethically wrong. Unless.... The organization is did something to him. Just like thrun didn't want to come here or what Schultz did to us. It's morally wrong. At this point we gotta just respect his personal decision and let him finish his college career. Good luck To .him

Heavily disagree, morally wrong acts include murder, theft, violence, racism, arson, adultery, deception, generally speaking acts that cause harm or do damage to the common good.

At worst this is culturally wrong/ situationally wrong, as I understand how one could interpret it as unhealthy for the value And importance of the draft, which I agree should be protected and not weakened as the draft is the great equalizer of the league imo.

Also I wouldn’t necessarily say Cutter has done anything to try and dip on the team that drafted him simply because he didn’t want to be there, a la Adam Fox. He clearly was happy to be drafted by them and as he alluded to was not impressed by one or multiple things about the organization. It sounds like most of it was likely in private matters between him and the organization, but it could also have been exasperated by their other controversies as well. Even just from the outside the Flyers have had a number of issues, Hayes being treated how he was, young players being benched and not given opportunities on a floundering team, GMs son throwing wheel chairs down stairwells, Gritty punching children . I don’t think it’s a stretch to conclude he was not impressed by the organization. And if I were says student or employee or member of an organization and I immediately began seeing red flags and issues, I would do what I need to do to get myself into a better situation.

 

[Dryish]

Im a trash talking loud mouth, now all we need is someone smart

Sup. International perspective in my back pocket too.

 

[Rasp]

The flyers fan base is something... They should be more concerned with the organization issues that made him want to leave and look at Michkov as someone who has already told multiple teams he doesnt want to play for them.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

I think it's been made pretty clear Gauthier is signing when the season ends I don't think we have to worry about that

 

[gilfaizon]

I think it's been made pretty clear Gauthier is signing when the season ends I don't think we have to worry about that

Can't wait. I'm really excited about us using D assets to add to our forward group. It's going to be nice to bump of some of the more older guys like Strome out of the top 6 in the near future. Killorn may not be far behind.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Coming from a realist. I'm gonna hold my opinion on his character up until he actually signs a contract. In my eyes he doesn't owe anybody an explanation as to why he decided not to play for Philly. But.... What he did is still in my eyes. Ethically wrong. Unless.... The organization is did something to him. Just like thrun didn't want to come here or what Schultz did to us. It's morally wrong. At this point we gotta just respect his personal decision and let him finish his college career. Good luck To .him

Ridiculous. It's not immoral to change your mind about something, and you don't owe a future employer anything other than the truth. Even from Philly's side, what we know is that he said he's happy to be a Flyer and then, after some dealings between them, he told them he changed his mind. I don't understand what's unethical about that. It may have been a bit immature for him to avoid them at the WC (or maybe not, since he'd evidently made himself clear), but there's nothing immoral here.

That doesn't mean fans can't be annoyed about it, you're allowed to be annoyed about a thing even when the thing isn't immoral or unethical or whatever.

 

[Hollel]

Gauthier deserves the blow back with how he handled it and any NHL team fanbase would react the same

I think that no, a teenager that exercised his leverage and rights that were legally allowed to him doesn’t deserve death threats. And assuming he’s a POS because he refused meetings with an organization he explicitly told he wouldn’t have a relationship with without ANY further context is still flimsy. For example, we have zero insight into how much his agent begged him to ignore those advances even though he felt conflicted/guilt.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Never mind.

 

[All Mighty]

Briere is going on a Flyers propaganda tour. He joined Shane O’Brien’s podcast to talk about everything. I haven’t listened to it yet, but here is the list of topics they discuss.

 

[Rooch]

I don't give a single poop about the Flyers or their fans. We gave them a lot and it's time to turn the page. Gauthier is our player now and my only hope is that we have ample veteran leadership in our locker room to demonstrate how an NHL player should prepare and behave. He seems arrogant and douchey, and maybe a little bit of that isn't such a terrible thing for a young player with star potential. I trust things will equalize when he starts playing in the league and realizes this isn't the world juniors anymore (see: Zegras, Trevor). But I'm just so sick of hearing from the bereaved, insulted, crestfallen Flyer fans and execs about how Gauthier somehow mistreated them. The kid made a choice and maybe he didn't handle it with maximum grace, but what kid his age does? It happened. Move on.

 

[ohcomeonref]

Never mind.

Dammit, this was gonna be good.

Briere is going on a Flyers propaganda tour. He joined Shane O’Brien’s podcast to talk about everything. I haven’t listened to it yet, but here is the list of topics they discuss.
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If I was Briere I'd be trying my hardest to shovel dirt on top of the story about my entitled piece of shit son too. Best way to do that is with a new story for people to get riled up about.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Dammit, this was gonna be good.



If I was Briere I'd be trying my hardest to shovel dirt on top of the story about my entitled piece of shit son too. Best way to do that is with a new story for people to get riled up about.

It was, but the premise was inappropriate.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Ridiculous. It's not immoral to change your mind about something, and you don't owe a future employer anything other than the truth. Even from Philly's side, what we know is that he said he's happy to be a Flyer and then, after some dealings between them, he told them he changed his mind. I don't understand what's unethical about that. It may have been a bit immature for him to avoid them at the WC (or maybe not, since he'd evidently made himself clear), but there's nothing immoral here.

That doesn't mean fans can't be annoyed about it, you're allowed to be annoyed about a thing even when the thing isn't immoral or unethical or whatever.

I guess we have different opinions.. Buts that ok.. Hopefully he kills it for us..

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

https://x.com/PKSubban1/status/1745604595219419180?s=20 Pk giving his take..

 

[Rooch]

https://x.com/PKSubban1/status/1745604595219419180?s=20 Pk giving his take..

People like to hate on PK for some reason but this is the clearest, most understandable perspective on this situation I've heard so far.

 

[Firequacker]

Absolutely hilarious to me that so many Flyers fans think "who does this kid think he is, refusing to meet with people he didn't invite or ask to talk to while he was busy with the WJCs?" is a winning argument. No, the Flyers knew perfectly well by then that he had no intention of playing for them. He'd obviously already told them directly, enough for them to have shopped him at the draft. But they couldn't grasp the concept of "no means no", so they sent some big names to Sweden to bother him during a major tournament, then they pretend he's the entitled one for saying no and a bunch of clowns are eating it up. Ridiculous. They didn't own him or his time.

 

[lwvs84]

Absolutely hilarious to me that so many Flyers fans think "who does this kid think he is, refusing to meet with people he didn't invite or ask to talk to while he was busy with the WJCs?" is a winning argument. No, the Flyers knew perfectly well by then that he had no intention of playing for them. He'd obviously already told them directly, enough for them to have shopped him at the draft. But they couldn't grasp the concept of "no means no", so they sent some big names to Sweden to bother him during a major tournament, then they pretend he's the entitled one for saying no and a bunch of clowns are eating it up. Ridiculous. They didn't own him or his time.

Don't forget that they were probably trying to meet with him without his agent ("representative"?). He's probably been told by them to not talk to the team without representation.

 

[Gliff]

Briere is going on a Flyers propaganda tour. He joined Shane O’Brien’s podcast to talk about everything. I haven’t listened to it yet, but here is the list of topics they discuss.
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For reference it was pretty mild and he talked about Jamie more then Cutter, as he should.

 

[Deuce22]

Ridiculous. It's not immoral to change your mind about something, and you don't owe a future employer anything other than the truth. Even from Philly's side, what we know is that he said he's happy to be a Flyer and then, after some dealings between them, he told them he changed his mind. I don't understand what's unethical about that. It may have been a bit immature for him to avoid them at the WC (or maybe not, since he'd evidently made himself clear), but there's nothing immoral here.

That doesn't mean fans can't be annoyed about it, you're allowed to be annoyed about a thing even when the thing isn't immoral or unethical or whatever.

What's actually immoral is to threaten someone who doesn't sign with the team you root for.