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Columbus is not trading Jones after they just lost Panrin, Duchene, and Bobs.
Proposal: Ana Needed trades
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Most reasonable sabres fans want to keep Risto and reduce his minutes and allow him to play to his strengths. 30 minutes a night on a tire fire of a team will make anyone look bad defensively. Dahlin will help there, Miller some, Montour some. If we cant get a legit 2c for Risto we are better off keeping him as he can put up similar numbers to a 2c (on the sabres) anyways.
MarkovsKnee
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Personally, I'd love Jones in Montreal.
Juulsen for Jones? Both 1st rders. Both NHL ready.
Habs have a lot of depth at RD right now.
Habs could use Jones' physical game.
duxfan1101
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It's not a bad offer by any means, and it does make some sense, but I personally would only trade Jones as a piece for a larger target (like Risto). Other posters may feel differently, but that's just my take.
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Jones has a ton of potential... prob too early to move him until we see if he can score a lil more... i wouldnt mind juulsen tho... i just dont think im ready to move jones yet
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No and no.
We need to develop our young froward group its not like we have a young Getzlaf and Perry carrying our offense.
For a defenseman who is UFA after 1 season no way in hell.
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Easy no... but i could see us in on shatty
No way we move zegras... hell be a key part to us not having to go full rebuild
Pretty sure u guys need to move shatt for cap purposes so i assume pick/prosects will get it done if we do go for him
Yes most Sabres fans are unhappy with Risto's defensive play. With that said, we've had to see him jammed into a role that didn't play to his strengths. He shouldn't be playing 25 minutes a night against teams top lines. Going to a team that can play him with a heavier OZ deployment with a respectable partner should yield some nice results. The "4/5 defenseman" handle is used more by people that don't watch him play night in and night out. It's almost exclusively a result of staring at WOWY charts and using no context with those #'s. He's a good young defenseman on a good contract with term.
I'd say most Sabres fans haven't given up on Mittlestadt yet. He definitely was not ready for the role he was thrust into last year. At this point it's tough to determine whether he's better suited as a LW long-term or if he'll put the work in to try and stick at C. It would obviously be best to have a vet in front of him to help ease him into that 2C role. Comtois would be a nice get, but we aren't quite as thin on the Wing as we appeared last year. Olofsson is ready, we added Johansson and Vesey, Nylander will need to be given a chance this season. All these guys combined with Skinner and Reinhart should give us enough talent on the wings. Up the middle things look much more sparse. Mittlestadt looked lost last year, Johansson should be a LW not a center, Rodrigues looked alright at C, but counting on him to be the 2C behind Eichel is likely asking too much from him. The wildcard would be Reinhart who has never really been given a good long run with talent at the C position.
itwasaforwardpass
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Id could get behind terry for risto as a starter...
but terry/steel seem to fly under the radar as prospects... I think both are going to have coming out party this year.
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Anaheim needs a RD and the Bruins have Kevin Miller, will not cost the Ducks any of their young talent and fills a need.
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Depends on what you consider good
I wouldnt give terry steel comtois or zegras for him
Ducks are better off not wasting young assets on 1 year rentals or overpaying for 2nd pair d-men and seeing what they have. They are more than 1 second pair guy away from contending, just see if any of the young guys are capable of taking the #4 spot. Maybe Larsson, Guhle, or Haakanpaa (sp?) are ready for that spot. If not, worst case scenario is a good draft pick and showing what the young guys have
How bout we stop pretending they'll be contending any time soon and not burn futures in the middle of a retool/rebuild?
DarthProbert
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Edmonton offers a 2nd for Ritchie. He may not be what Anaheim had hoped he'd be, but he's better than a lot of what Edmonton has. And he's better than anything Edmonton will pull out of the 2nd round.
How would acquiring a 24 (Risto) or 26 (Hamilton) year old defenseman be counterproductive to a re-tool?
dracom
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Ritchie is fine, still cheap with two years on his contract left. And is unique to our forward group; a 2nd isn't enough to help the Oilers out with their terrible winger situation.
We don't know how long it's going to take. With our futures we don't know whether or not they may end up worse, as good, or better than the guys we'll trade for. In a few cases like Zegras, Comtois, or Terry it's entirely possible for the third option. It would make more sense if we were on the cusp of returning to competitive hockey with am established core. As is there's going to be a lot of toying around and developing a core on the fly. Trading away any of these prospects only to watch them become a star would in fact be counter productive.
Spazkat
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Its not that acquiring them would be bad - its the expectation that they will need to give up one of the ELC forwards to do so.
If you only have a right shoe, trading it in to get the left one you need doesn't actually leave you any further ahead.
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