Harvey Birdman
…Need some law books, with pictures this time…
Columbus is not trading Jones after they just lost Panrin, Duchene, and Bobs.Ana need’s a Rd what would it take to get one :
Car - D.Hamilton
Cls - S. Jones
Buf - R. Ristolainen
Columbus is not trading Jones after they just lost Panrin, Duchene, and Bobs.Ana need’s a Rd what would it take to get one :
Car - D.Hamilton
Cls - S. Jones
Buf - R. Ristolainen
I think your assessment of Henrique's contract is reasonable - number is a bit too high for a bit too long. But what I'm missing is the value Buffalo fans seems to be placing on Risto (and his contract). My impression (which could be mistaken) is that Buffalo fans are very unhappy with Risto's defensive play and feel he's a 4/5 right now. Even if he's a 4, Risto's contract is a bit high as well. Yet Buffalo thinks a flawed defenseman with a $5.4M contract will return a 2c or top prospect? Look at the recent trades if middle or low tier d-men - they haven't been traded for that type of return.
IMO Steel, Terry, Comtois, Lundestrom, and Zegras are untouchable at this stage. The best prospects I'd give up in a deal for Risto would be Jones, Mahura, Morand, and/or Larsson. I understand if that isn't enough for Buffalo, but we can't afford to give up our most talented offensive prospects right now.
It's not a bad offer by any means, and it does make some sense, but I personally would only trade Jones as a piece for a larger target (like Risto). Other posters may feel differently, but that's just my take.Personally, I'd love Jones in Montreal.
Juulsen for Jones? Both 1st rders. Both NHL ready.
Habs have a lot of depth at RD right now.
Habs could use Jones' physical game.
Jones has a ton of potential... prob too early to move him until we see if he can score a lil more... i wouldnt mind juulsen tho... i just dont think im ready to move jones yetIt's not a bad offer by any means, and it does make some sense, but I personally would only trade Jones as a piece for a larger target (like Risto). Other posters may feel differently, but that's just my take.
Prob not a big add at all tbhThere would need to be s big plus on Anaheim end.
Risto for steel and Max Jones? Maybe something with comtois? Idk I’d assume buffalo would want one or two young fwds in return?
Hamonic could be available maybe with a deal around kase?
Kase+2nd
A mid-sized plus would need to be added.There would need to be s big plus on Anaheim end.
Not for 1 year of hamonic... maybe 2nd + prospect of somesortHamonic could be available maybe with a deal around kase?
Kase+2nd
Easy no... but i could see us in on shattyHow about Shattenkirk and Lias Anderson for Zegras.
Yes most Sabres fans are unhappy with Risto's defensive play. With that said, we've had to see him jammed into a role that didn't play to his strengths. He shouldn't be playing 25 minutes a night against teams top lines. Going to a team that can play him with a heavier OZ deployment with a respectable partner should yield some nice results. The "4/5 defenseman" handle is used more by people that don't watch him play night in and night out. It's almost exclusively a result of staring at WOWY charts and using no context with those #'s. He's a good young defenseman on a good contract with term.I think your assessment of Henrique's contract is reasonable - number is a bit too high for a bit too long. But what I'm missing is the value Buffalo fans seems to be placing on Risto (and his contract). My impression (which could be mistaken) is that Buffalo fans are very unhappy with Risto's defensive play and feel he's a 4/5 right now. Even if he's a 4, Risto's contract is a bit high as well. Yet Buffalo thinks a flawed defenseman with a $5.4M contract will return a 2c or top prospect? Look at the recent trades if middle or low tier d-men - they haven't been traded for that type of return.
I'd say most Sabres fans haven't given up on Mittlestadt yet. He definitely was not ready for the role he was thrust into last year. At this point it's tough to determine whether he's better suited as a LW long-term or if he'll put the work in to try and stick at C. It would obviously be best to have a vet in front of him to help ease him into that 2C role. Comtois would be a nice get, but we aren't quite as thin on the Wing as we appeared last year. Olofsson is ready, we added Johansson and Vesey, Nylander will need to be given a chance this season. All these guys combined with Skinner and Reinhart should give us enough talent on the wings. Up the middle things look much more sparse. Mittlestadt looked lost last year, Johansson should be a LW not a center, Rodrigues looked alright at C, but counting on him to be the 2C behind Eichel is likely asking too much from him. The wildcard would be Reinhart who has never really been given a good long run with talent at the C position.Do Sabre fans think Casey Mittelstadt is not 2c material? Or just not ready yet?
I figured a big, near-NHL ready prospect like Comtois who can score as LW2 would have been just what BUF wanted. I don't know - maybe Olofsson is that guy.
Id could get behind terry for risto as a starter...Steel or Terry for Risto.
Not for 1 year of hamonic... maybe 2nd + prospect of somesort
Depends on what you consider goodA second + good prospect maybe
How would acquiring a 24 (Risto) or 26 (Hamilton) year old defenseman be counterproductive to a re-tool?How bout we stop pretending they'll be contending any time soon and not burn futures in the middle of a retool/rebuild?
Ritchie is fine, still cheap with two years on his contract left. And is unique to our forward group; a 2nd isn't enough to help the Oilers out with their terrible winger situation.Edmonton offers a 2nd for Ritchie. He may not be what Anaheim had hoped he'd be, but he's better than a lot of what Edmonton has. And he's better than anything Edmonton will pull out of the 2nd round.
We don't know how long it's going to take. With our futures we don't know whether or not they may end up worse, as good, or better than the guys we'll trade for. In a few cases like Zegras, Comtois, or Terry it's entirely possible for the third option. It would make more sense if we were on the cusp of returning to competitive hockey with am established core. As is there's going to be a lot of toying around and developing a core on the fly. Trading away any of these prospects only to watch them become a star would in fact be counter productive.How would acquiring a 24 (Risto) or 26 (Hamilton) year old defenseman be counterproductive to a re-tool?
How would acquiring a 24 (Risto) or 26 (Hamilton) year old defenseman be counterproductive to a re-tool?