A1LeafNation
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Value of: Ana fire sale???
- Thread starter bmoc
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Idk Eakins is pretty bad… I almost want to apologize to oiler fans for doubting them all those years ago, maybe Eakins was the problem back then
But then i remember it’s oilers fans and ignore those impulses
TheNewEra
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i would do zaitsev with a 2nd and a 3rd in terms of a cap dump or zaitsev with one of mid tier prospects. This depends on if the ducsk need/want picks or a prospect
KaseMeOutside
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20 games is barely a cup of tea in the NHL
Paul Maurice atleast has a winning record and has actually made it to the NHL playoffs. Edge definitely goes to Paul Maurice being the better coach of the 2
quietbruinfan
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20 games or not, he was the quintessence of the bad, tough Canadian coach taken to the nth degree. He was a maniac, who could only get 20 games in the NHL.
Have to agree with this. A second for retention and Henrique? That’s not good dealing at all. Anaheim sucks we get that. But Anaheim can get a second most likely without retention. Wasn’t that what New Jersey wanted to do? Give a second for em? Something along those lines.
The ducks since 2027/2018 are blowing my mind with what they've done for a rebuild and their asset management
In 2017 the Anaheim Ducks added their last piece for a playoff push. Knowing they were aging, their vets were about done and they were in the same situation we are now in regards to assets; they added Patrick eaves in Feb of 2017 for a conditional pick which became Jokiharju.
Since 2017, the Ducks have committed to no major signings or trades that brought long term players in. They; up until this year; had not signed a contract longer than 3 years. All short term, low value contracts. They started shedding players and assets over the age of 25 while still trying to be competitive. Until March 10th last year they were still 2/3 in the Pacific and in a playoff spot while committing to this program since 2017/2018.
Some examples of this program regarding trading assets, retaining cap or eating a contract and signing trading players include:
Vatanen and a conditional 3rd for Henrique, Blandisi and a 3rd. Henrique is being shopped this year and is rumoured to be one of the hottest forwards available
Brandon Montour for Brendon Guhle and a conditional 1st (Brayden Tracey)
Ondrej Kase for David Backes, Axel Andersson and a 1st round pick (Jacob Perreault)
Josh Manson for Drew Helleson and a 2nd round pick (this year)
Nick Deslauriers for a 3rd
Hampus Lindholm 50% retained with Kodie Curran for Moore, Vaakanainen, 1st round pick (nathan gaucher) 2023 2nd and 2024 2nd
Richard Rakell 35% retained for Simon, Aston-Reese, 2nd round pick (tristan luneau)
Through this program they have assembled a roster/non roster crop of young prospects and blue chip assets that re essentially guaranteed stars that looks like this. This is 100% NOT to say that they have not made some questionable decisions; but you can see how management has made efforts and attempts to weaponize their cap space, roster and cap retention as well as trading assets on or near expiring contracts to push forward with an eye for the future.
McTavish/Zegras/Gaucher/Pastujov/Perreault/Tracey all at forward and then that defense of Hinds/Zellweger/Mintyukov/Helleson with not a single one of them currently over the age of 21. They are also the front runners for Bedard/Fantilli/Carlsson. One of the top 3 centres available this year, that have been noted to all go as potential 1st overall picks in other years
That's not including whoever they draft this year as well with 4 picks in the first 2 rounds and their entire roster over the age of 25 up for grabs including Henrique/Shattenkirk/Klingberg who will return at least late 1sts. This is a group of large bodied players barring Hinds. They are all young, 21 or younger and all cost controlled. They also have a smattering of other promising young assets.
Picking no less than 4 times in the first three rounds in every draft since 2019. 6 first's, 5 seconds and 3 thirds. 5 picks in the first 3 rounds without making a single move this year and 4 in the first 3 next year.
Kind of scared of the future Ducks
All very very solid points. Anaheim fans know the process. This team has picks galore, and prospects who are promising.
If Anaheim sticks to this plan? The team will shape up quickly. Having a team that is purely in control of its cap space because majority are ELC coming in? That leaves major space for bigger names that can help them get to the top in the future.
It’s always best when you have money available to spend, than not having money to spend and you have to make room for a player.
GhostfaceWu
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WhalerTurnedBruin55
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As a Bruins fan, what makes you want him?
From all accounts he's been very bad this year and makes far too much unless a chunk of the deal for the Bruins is taking a bad contract.
quietbruinfan
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He has game changing offensive ability. He is right-handed, the coach knows him, and he has paired successfully with Lindholm. (Read the article on our board)
WhalerTurnedBruin55
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He feels like a reputation acquisition. His game changing ability feels absent this year. His salary is high (even with 50% retention). And when did he play with Lindholm at the NHL level (or are we talking international play?)
I just don't think he's going to be worth the cap it requires to send or retain to be worth it. (Assuming we need to pay to take a contract and pay to retain, then pay for the player) Unless they are literally giving him away.
Maxime Comtois and Max Jones to NYR for Hunter Skinner Sammy Blais (UFA at season end roster dump) and 3rd in 2024
Billdo
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John Mandalorian
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Anaheim passes.
definitely brutal for Anaheim. Every player on this team is having a down year due to team structure. Many fans feel Comtois can get back on his feet like he was a few years ago. Unless the deal makes sense Anaheim will just keep ‘em
John Mandalorian
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It seems like Anaheim fans want to elevate the value on several players with excuses.
Not sure what their value is. Rangers need more grit in the lineup for the playoffs. Hope to see Devils vs Rangers in round 1. that would be a fun matchup
Really no excuses when the entire team is having a down year. That’s just factual information
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WhatTheDuck
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It's hard to entirely disagree but I think Anaheim is also the worst possible situation for a player like Klingberg to succeed. There just isn't anyone to help cover his weaknesses, to the point where he really isn't able to play to his strengths. There's no being sheltered in Anaheim, no where to hide so to speak.
He'd go to Boston and probably feel the same weight lifted as Lindholm, one can play the game with so much more confidence when they aren't being asked to be the dam holding back the flood waters.
I don't think Klingberg's talent has disappeared, he still has some impressive moments on the offensive blueline that remind you where his points used to come from. He just looks pretty lost on a team that lacks structure and the proper insulation to allow him to play the role he's built to succeed in - which is getting a ton of offensive zone time alongside a partner who does the defensive heavy lifting.
Zippy316
aka Zippo
I think he would just join Haula, Sharangovich, and Mercer in that group that gets shuffled around everywhere in the top nine based on who is hot.
When Bastian comes in, Foote/Holtz/Zetterlund is out. Henrique would kick Boqvist out of the lineup:
Palat - Hischier - Bratt
Haula - Hughes - Tatar
Sharangovich - Henrique - Mercer
Wood - McLeod - Bastian
Boqvist - Zetterlund
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Foote - Thompson - Holtz
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