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Ostlund is the real deal.
GDT: Amerks @ Sens 7 PM ET - TV: Sabres.com, ESPN+? Radio: WGR550
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jc17
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How much do you think was coaching/camp and how much do you think the result tonight was a testament to the drafting/development up to this point?
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I would love to know when they decided he was the one out. It could honestly be he was the one Edmonton wanted most because…hometown kid, highest draft pedigree…and Adams was targeting a player who wasn’t traditionally “available” and had to give to get.
But I’ve wondered if Savoie was going to be in the plans since Benson fell. I’ve believed Kulich surpassed him since his 18 year old season in Roch. I’ve believed they preferred Ostlund since he was the best player at a WJC that Savoie struggled in. But…when Helenius was drafted I thought that could mean more for Ostlund’s future than Savoie since I never thought Savoie would play center at that level. We saw days later that it didn’t. Could have been any of those steps or none of them…and it kills me that we will never know because it is interesting as hell.
But I never worried about the cost of that deal. Because I still had Helenius, Ostlund, Kulich and Benson. And Rosen and Wahlberg if you want them. Just…there’s still too many guys…You know?
But I think Savoie will be a good player…probably better than some of those and not as good as others…but I’ve never minded that he was the one to go first and I was ecstatic when he was there at their pick. When Benson fell the next year it changed a bit for me though.
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So what I've learned is that the Rochester Americans > Belleville Sens > Leafs
Ace
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If Ullmark didn’t play the first 30 shots or so you’d need a lot more >
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Sandstrom is not a good goalie, but at least he is an upgrade over Tokarski.
The bulk of the Rochester returnees have worked together enough for there to be some chemistry there going into these games. They have an idea who they are playing with and what is expected other than Helenius IMO. And he's a mid-first rounder who just played a season against men in Finland. The PP did things that it did when it worked last year even if the trigger man in Kulich wasn't there - there is continuity and I would put that on the staff.
That said, there is also a f*** ton of talent there. Three first round picks dressed for them tonight (Ostlund, Rosen, Helenius) as well as a recent high second (Wahlberg). Add in some nice mid-to-late round pro Russian finds in Neuchev, Komarov, and Novikov and there is clear talent in who tgivehey've drafted. They could've had another recent first rounder in the lineup if Johnson dressed. They have a solid batch of talent, but the augmentation with some quality AHL-level depth guys who play their role is something to look at Karmanos' body of work and give him a tip of the cap IMO.
Some of it is talent. Some of it is coaching. I don't think it's clearly leaning one way or the other.
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Win for Rick
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Buffalo defeats Ottawa in overtime to remain unbeaten in preseason play.
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How they don’t give Ullmark one after his night I just don’t understand.
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because they couldn't put two sens in there in a loss and they have a hard on for yakemchuk.
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Good to hear they're coming out aggressive and seem to be well conditioned in these few preseason games. Far cry from last year. Hopefully, that means they won't fall on their face for the first third of the season. I have hope.
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With 2 teams we have a better shot at making the playoffs 
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Benson is without a doubt the best of them, for sure.
My immediate reaction was sad to be losing Savoie, since I still think he has a top 6 ceiling, but within minutes I was much happier to have McLeod and actually push the NHL team forward (and I have a friend who loves Tullio).
Wahlberg seems like the guy every other team is trying to snatch from us in a trade, and I see why. He's unique in our pool. Rosen is still a wildcard on NHL future for me, but he's a jack-of-all-trades with speed at this point, so there must be a spot for him. Helenius I feel has a low ceiling and is near guaranteed to hit it. Ostlund's even more wildcardy. Don't have a beat on what his NHL role is, yet.
Our prospect pool, sans a top-top tier franchise guy, is as balanced as it's ever been. You name it, we have it.
I just need the guys already in Buffalo to move this thing forward, so the reinforcements actually matter, and we aren't rebuilding a team with them in 3-4 years.
Komarov looks bigger than 6'3" 198. What a score that would be if he could play NHL minutes
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I have noticed more high IQ plays in three pre-season games from 18 yo Helenius than I have in 2.5 years of Krebs. I see a much higher ceiling for Konsta. Middle 6 C with defensive chops. His battle on the blue line last night during a forecheck was top notch. I think he and Ostlund are in the plans.
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Sabres roster lists him at 6'4" and 208.
Jerry Forton described him as "almost 6-foot-4" back in May.
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Krebs for me is the tail of poor prospect development.
Makes more sense. Prospects sites have him way lower. He looked like a bruiser. If he can skate with any decency and keep the offence up he could be a real menace somewhere in the lineup in the future. Obviously, means nothing now. Solid AHL year would be impressive.
