GDT: All things training camp

TS Quint

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Sep 8, 2012
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Fehr
Randy Jones
Glass
Miettinen
Ponikarovsky
Jokinen
Halischuk
Setoguchi
Tangradi
Ellerby
Wright
Peluso - He was a good fighter, just not a good hockey player.
Stafford
Dano
Matthias
Brian Strait (everyone else listed played at least most of a season - he only played a few games, but WTF, pro scouting?)
Morrow
Hayes
Beaulieu
Sbisa
Bitetto
Gabe Bourque
Steve Mason
Dahlstrom
Letestu
Shore
Eakin
Shaw
Lewis
Thompson
Pionk
Schmidt
Svechnikov
Gagner
Rittich
Toffoli

Some of these guys were just bodies, but a lot of head-scratching misjudgments on what were supposed to be impact players (Jokinen, Setoguchi, Stafford, Mason, Hayes, Eakin, Pionk, Schmidt, Toffoli).
Really? Half of these guys were making league min. Now make a list of answering the question and maybe we can start a real conversation.
 

bumblebeeman

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So the first star of the first NHL game in 2025 with a goal and an assist is a RH defenseman 6’4” 208 lbs who iced 20+ mins that was drafted by the Jets.
Size and right handed shot is what the Jets need.

I guess they should've traded a 4th for him instead of Miller you think?
 

Thechozen1

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Sep 8, 2021
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I really like Gus and what he brings

Kupari definitely has better tools. Let's see if he can find some sort of toolbox for them... I'm gonna go out on a limb and predict that this will be his best year to date. Not that that says a whole lot lol
Agreed and I do respect what Gus brings as well.

I think last season really soured people on Kupari. With an expanded role, I could see Kupari hitting 15-20 points with his totals slanted more on assists. I’d be happy with 4g 18 pts out of him.
 

voyageur

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Jul 10, 2011
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You have made a really good point recently about how the Jets want PK mins out of the 3rd pair guy. Makes it tougher for those offensive guys to earn a spot if they aren't top four.

I'm not sure if Fleury is actually good at PK or not. I will have to keep an eye on that this year.

Certainly seems like his role to lose once Salomonsson has had his cup of tea and is back on the Moose. At least until Stanley is back anyway?
I still think it is possible that Salomonsson beats out Coghlan. Maybe doesn't start game 1, but gets a taste in one if the home games. And he has played on the PK this preseason, also practiced on it. I think it's possible there is a revolving door of 7th d-man until the regulars get healthy . Be interesting to see where players fit...I still see the Moose needing Coughlan for the PP. If he sticks none of Salomonsson, Lundmark, Anhorn, Bauer, Barteaux or Sauntner scream offense. Maybe Anhorn could run the 2nd PP.
While you a raise a decent point about PK, who's to say you couldn't have Declan kill penalties. Just because he's more offensive doesn't mean he can't kill i.e Arniel wanting KC and Scheifele to kill this year.

What Declan would have brought is speed, retrieval and puck moving. All things that we lacked against the Avs in the playoffs. This org does already has a franchise two way guy in JoMo and has its defensive specialists in DeMelo, Snerg and to a lesser extent Miller. We could use some more mobility and puck movement as Pionk is pretty awful at the puck moving part.
Also lacked a good PK, and box out around the net. Fleury and Miller could knock Pionk out of the PK...I still think puck moving is one of his strengths, you watch how much his d partners defer to him for breakouts. It's the defensive side of the game which is less than polished. Just my opinion.
 

Thechozen1

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So the first star of the first NHL game in 2025 with a goal and an assist is a RH defenseman 6’4” 208 lbs who iced 20+ mins that was drafted by the Jets.
Size and right handed shot is what the Jets need.
This is the year Kovacevic becomes Parayko lite.:sarcasm: Wouldn’t that be something. The meltdowns would be epic.
 

Cypruss

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Why do you call it hindsight?
Definition: understanding of a situation or event after it has happened or developed. The word hindsight is a fairly recent word originating in the 1800s. One of the first documentations of the word actually refers to “backsight” as in “backsight of a firearm.” The word hind is synonymous with back
 

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