i am not going to act like there's no conceivable way the Jets may upgrade from Appleton. however, the grouping of him in the category of Gus or Kupari is ridiculous in my view.
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Because he gets the job done. Good defensive players aren't pariahs...
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After showing struggles, has time run out for Lambert to make Jets' roster?
Aside from a heads-up assist to Simon Lundmark late in the third period, which marked the Winnipeg Jets’ fourth goal in their 5-2 win over the Calgary Flames on Wednesday, Brad Lambert wasn’t noticeable in a positive way.
Ehlers Scheifele Vilardi
Connor Namestnikov Perfetti
Barron Lowry Appleton
Iafallo Lambert Niederreiter
Kupari
Morrissey Demelo
Samberg Pionk
Lundmark Miller
Fleury
That's what I would roll. I suspect Arniel's gonna do something similar.
Connor Namestnikov Perfetti
Barron Lowry Appleton
Iafallo Lambert Niederreiter
Kupari
Morrissey Demelo
Samberg Pionk
Lundmark Miller
Fleury
That's what I would roll. I suspect Arniel's gonna do something similar.
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Intrigued by what Arniel chooses to do with Lambert. As a fan, I'd rather see a fast, gifted centre like as 4C instead of a guy like Gus, Kupari or Toninato. I suspect Arniel will not choose that and send Lambert down.
It's more logical to have Lambert playing big offensive geared minutes in the AHL and be the first callup when one of our top 6 good down than having him play 10 grinding minutes a night with plugs. JMO.
I was slightly disappointed with Chibrikovs preseason but thinking about it a bit more logically I'd bet the assignment for him was to work on his defensive aspects and puck management.
I can see a scenario where the coaching staff told him they know how skilled offensively he is, but they want to get him to a place where they can trust him all over the ice.
He's shown good maturity and hockey sense, and it's likely they see him as one of those super versatile players who you can put anywhere in the lineup.
I can see a scenario where the coaching staff told him they know how skilled offensively he is, but they want to get him to a place where they can trust him all over the ice.
He's shown good maturity and hockey sense, and it's likely they see him as one of those super versatile players who you can put anywhere in the lineup.
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Yeah for sure. Seen it play out too many times. Skilled guy gets pigeon holed into not making any risky plays ever and their creativity and production suffers.
Heard it on the broadcast with Sawyer last night..
1) backhand feed by Lambert at the blue line is risky and should be "put down low"
2) similar feed from Connor is a "skilled play"
This to me is a microcausm of why he should be playing AHL until we need him in the top six
I agree with the idea, I just think it's unrealistic to expect anything other than Lowry as tough matchups C. It's been this way for 10 years now.
Arniel is open to running three scoring lines.
Could a philosophy change be on horizon for Jets' offence?
It may as well be Scott Arniel's slogan for training camp. Don't read too much into it.
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The 4th line that I posted above fits with that philosophy and I certainly wouldn't feel sorry for Lambert to be stuck with Iafallo and Niederreiter.
Yeah Iafallo is way better than these guys. Scores more and better defense, can play complimentary top six and not sink a line, etc.
Iafallo is an example of what Chibrikov should emulate if he wants to be top six one day.
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Lines were jumbled a bit towards the end....mostly due to Gus being out.
There was one shift for Niederreiter-Lowry-Vilardi. Big heavy line and they looked really good. might be an option for a change-up to the normal service.
Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers
Niederreiter-Lowry-Vilardi
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Barron-Namestnikov-Appleton
Iaffalo is a jag in my opinion
There was one shift for Niederreiter-Lowry-Vilardi. Big heavy line and they looked really good. might be an option for a change-up to the normal service.
Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers
Niederreiter-Lowry-Vilardi
Perfetti-Lambert-Iafallo
Barron-Namestnikov-Appleton
yet others suggest on here we'd have to give up assets to trade him
Iaffalo is a jag in my opinion
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If you insert Lambert and Chibrosov into the lineup there are no room for plugs and you can have talent spread across 4 lines.
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Iafallo does have some offensive ability too. He is reliable and versatile enough to move up and down the lineup so he is more than a 4th liner.
I would have been happy to include him in a trade where we needed cap space for an upgrade at a position of need. But we don't need the cap space right now so his cap hit is not an issue.
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I do fear that we are going to lose Lundmark....but maybe this is the best time to get him through with a flood of players passing through over the next few days? Coughlin would have been my selection, but not going to get too worked up about it (until Lundmark gets claimed at least).
Good luck to Barlow with Oshawa, the Generals are one of the best teams in the OHL already, and this bodes well for a big season for him.....if he stays healthy of course.
I'm open to the idea but I just don't see itArniel is open to running three scoring lines.
Could a philosophy change be on horizon for Jets' offence?
It may as well be Scott Arniel's slogan for training camp. Don't read too much into it.
The 4th line that I posted above fits with that philosophy and I certainly wouldn't feel sorry for Lambert to be stuck with Iafallo and Niederreiter.
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Arniel is open to running three scoring lines.
Could a philosophy change be on horizon for Jets' offence?
It may as well be Scott Arniel's slogan for training camp. Don't read too much into it.
The 4th line that I posted above fits with that philosophy and I certainly wouldn't feel sorry for Lambert to be stuck with Iafallo and Niederreiter.
I like those lines but we know that KC and Ehlers would be swapped for a start. then there is that 4th line.
You have kept Iafallo and Nino available and could make quite a 4th line with them. I just don't see Lambert as the C there. I think he is close to ready but not quite there yet.
Could those linemates be the secret sauce to get Kupari going? If not, I would waive him. I think we have a few other options who could be successful at 4C with those linemates. Or you put Nino back with Lowry and have his line be a bit more of a 2 way line, like it was last year.
His defensive metrics here and in LA suggest he is a top defensive forward. He seemed to help most lines he was on.
I see the value in having him replaced for his salary but that would likely require moving out picks with him, as you said.
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Good thing for Brad, that Arniel seems to see his play in a far more favourable light. Who from Sportsnet is even watching the Jets preseason?After showing struggles, has time run out for Lambert to make Jets' roster?
Aside from a heads-up assist to Simon Lundmark late in the third period, which marked the Winnipeg Jets’ fourth goal in their 5-2 win over the Calgary Flames on Wednesday, Brad Lambert wasn’t noticeable in a positive way.www.sportsnet.ca
Yeah, I thought last night was Brad's best game at 5 on 5. Much better puck pursuit and management.
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