OT: All Things Coronavirus Covid-19 - Part IX - MOD ADVISORY POST 1

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Trying to get ticket refunds for concerts, sporting events? You're not alone

Paul Rogers spent $819 to purchase three tickets to take his grandson to the Bruins-Maple Leafs NHL game scheduled back on March 14. But two days before the game, the NHL put the season on pause. The game never happened, but Rogers can't get a refund because the NHL hasn't technically canceled it. Instead, wealthy team owners are holding on to fans' ticket money.

"A situation like this, you can't even get a refund? That's terrible," said Rogers.

Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey says this issue is on her radar and ticket holders who can't get refunds should file a complaint with her office.

"I understand the argument some [teams or concert promoters] are making here, but we've got to face the reality here," said Healey, indicating that it'll likely be a long time before large events resume. "People are hurting right now. They need the money in their pocket, and they don't need to be held hostage."

The NHL did not respond to an email seeking updated guidance for ticket holders.


I can't blame the Bruins for holding my $400 of regular season tickets - but I can blame the NHL for merely postponing and not cancelling the games. C'mon. We all know the 2019-20 regular season is done. And the 2020 playoffs are a bit of a pipe dream, but at least they don't have my money for that.

But getting a refund for my Hockey East games has been impossible. In a rare combination of boredom and thriftiness, I bought my tickets at the physical window at the Garden in mid-December. Those games are cancelled. I wrote twice over the past month to the Garden's customer service, and got back the same form email listing which events are cancelled, and directing me to go to the "point of sale". You -ARE- the point of sale! I assume the window's closed, and no way in hell should they expect me to go to the Garden with my physical ticket in my hand (possibly infected, for all they know) to return it. No humans at the phone number I found online.

I wrote a third email, directing them specifically to not send me a form email. Also sent it to the Presidents' Office and the Premium Club address (they were Club seats), just to hedge my bet. But I may drop AG Healey a little note tomorrow. I could contest the charge with my credit card, too...but that seems involved.
 
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Colbert was toxic on Thursday night. It is no secret he is not a fan of the POTUS but he backs up his commentary with clips.





Likewise Jimmy Kimmel



The Paycheck Protection Program has been a colossal screwup as publically traded companies have reaped millions and the small businesses the money was intended for have in many cases been stymied by the process. Believe me, I blame both sides of the aisle for this.

Federal Small Business Bailout Fund Has Run Out of Money
 
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I can't blame the Bruins for holding my $400 of regular season tickets - but I can blame the NHL for merely postponing and not cancelling the games. C'mon. We all know the 2019-20 regular season is done. And the 2020 playoffs are a bit of a pipe dream, but at least they don't have my money for that.

But getting a refund for my Hockey East games has been impossible. In a rare combination of boredom and thriftiness, I bought my tickets at the physical window at the Garden in mid-December. Those games are cancelled. I wrote twice over the past month to the Garden's customer service, and got back the same form email listing which events are cancelled, and directing me to go to the "point of sale". You -ARE- the point of sale! I assume the window's closed, and no way in hell should they expect me to go to the Garden with my physical ticket in my hand (possibly infected, for all they know) to return it. No humans at the phone number I found online.

I wrote a third email, directing them specifically to not send me a form email. Also sent it to the Presidents' Office and the Premium Club address (they were Club seats), just to hedge my bet. But I may drop AG Healey a little note tomorrow. I could contest the charge with my credit card, too...but that seems involved.

@talkinaway That might be your best option.

TD Garden has numerous issues they are trying to deal with.

They are keeping the building available for possible playoff games in July and August for both teams which prevents them from doing the reconfiguration of the balcony seats, replacing the ice plant and the new scoreboard. Of course fixing the seats is a moot issue right now as nobody has a clue when local officials will allow 20,000 fans to be in a confined area.

THEN you have to factor in that the Hub on Causeway is suddenly closed with the exception of Star Market.

Hockey East depends on tournament revenue to cover its year-round administrative costs and they are worried about NEXT season as BU is already hinting they will not open the campus until next January as there are legitimate concerns about students sharing dorm rooms.

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Australian grocery store refuses refund to toilet paper re-seller

An Australian man may be wiped out after his plan to re-sell toilet paper and hand sanitizer went down the tubes.

After buying $10,000 of bulk toilet paper and hand sanitizer from a Drakes Supermarket, the man tried and failed to sell the goods, hoping to profit off of coronavirus-fueled panic buying Down Under.

When he called the store to try and get a refund on the 132 packs of toilet paper and 150 liters of hand sanitizers, the store told him to buzz off.

“In that conversation [the shopper said] ‘my eBay site has been shut down, so we couldn’t profiteer off that’,” Drakes Supermarkets director John-Paul Drake told ABC Radio Adelaide.

 

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FB post from a daughter of a friend in MI:

Im sharing this post from my labor and delivery colleague Angela Gogolowski. There was protest of the state at home order extension at our state capitol. Im really sure there was not a single health care worker in attendance.
Angela Gogolowski you put it all so perfectly.

“I am tired, I am scared and I have had enough. If you support those people today you do not support me. Kindly unfriend me and carry on with your lives...
I am saddened by the events today in Lansing. I just do not understand what people do not get. They believe that this virus is not a big deal because of numbers. Numbers they do not understand. They say the flu kills more people every year. Ok well "flu season" runs over several months not one. This country has lost a lot of people in one month's time. That is not the same. I have been a nurse for 15 years, that is 15 flu seasons I have worked through. I have worked through SARS, and MERS. Never have I ever seen anything like this. You sit there and you hear over and over on the PA, "rapid response to xyz room, anesthesia stat to xyz unit, code blue xyz room, over and over again. Sometimes as many as 10 times in a shift. Before this, I have never experienced that.
I am so frustrated. I wish we could film inside the hospitals what it is really like. Remember last week at Sinai Grace Hospital.. emergency room staff were asked to leave because they refused to accept the unsafe staffing ratios and the day shift had to work 24 hours. Most of you couldn't work a twelve hour shift as a nurse let alone 24. Patients are dying in hallways of the ER because the nurses can't tend to them quickly enough and they pass before they can be helped.
Operating rooms, PACU's are being transitioned to makeshift ICU's to care for these patients. Operating room nurse who do not normally perform patient care are being trained to work as ICU nurses.
Patients dying without their loved ones near them due to visitor restrictions in the hospitals but also in the nursing homes. Mothers with COVID being separated from their infants and not being able to hold them skin to skin at birth and not able to breast feed them.. Little infants fighting for their lives in the NICU. A new mother on the vent for four weeks fighting for her life, never once meeting her baby..a beloved grandmother in a nursing home for a month with no contact with family passing away and no funeral to honor her life. Labor and Delivery nurses gowning up head to toe for a simple delivery even if she is not COVID because you never know. The impersonal way we have to participate in labor and delivery of which used to be an intimate experience, is now formal and feels weird.
Fear every time I walk through those hospital doors, fear of my patients, fear of my coworkers, fear of giving this to my family. A constant cloud of anxiety. The feeling of not being properly protected (having to wear and keep the same n-95 mask for who knows how long) knowing full well they are not meant to be used for days on end. Staying away from my husband and kids for two weeks after I was exposed to a patient before we had PPE on our unit... My kids counting down the days until they can "kiss mommy again".
New nurses just out of school in December trying to figure out how to be a nurse while dealing with this pandemic, maybe thinking when this is over I am done. Experienced nurses saying" this is my last pandemic" contemplating a new career when this is over.
I could go on, but God Forbid people are asked to keep their little happy asses at home and sit the f*** down for two more weeks and they cannot do it. Protesting and blocking the streets of Lansing, blocking ambulances from transporting critical patients to Sparrow Hospital. Are you kidding me? Are we that self absorbed and wrapped up in ourselves that we can't do what is best for society for a little while longer.
You all stabbed each one of the healthcare workers in the back today with your actions. Don't worry when you get sick we will still take care of you, because this is what we do.”
 

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These 2 friends ( one lives near Hamilton, ON and the other near Buffalo) have done many videos comparing the US and Canada.

Crossing the border not a big deal until 9/11 and now

 

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Trying to get ticket refunds for concerts, sporting events? You're not alone

Paul Rogers spent $819 to purchase three tickets to take his grandson to the Bruins-Maple Leafs NHL game scheduled back on March 14. But two days before the game, the NHL put the season on pause. The game never happened, but Rogers can't get a refund because the NHL hasn't technically canceled it. Instead, wealthy team owners are holding on to fans' ticket money.

"A situation like this, you can't even get a refund? That's terrible," said Rogers.

Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey says this issue is on her radar and ticket holders who can't get refunds should file a complaint with her office.

"I understand the argument some [teams or concert promoters] are making here, but we've got to face the reality here," said Healey, indicating that it'll likely be a long time before large events resume. "People are hurting right now. They need the money in their pocket, and they don't need to be held hostage."

The NHL did not respond to an email seeking updated guidance for ticket holders.
Well I would like to know. Thankfully the B's didn't get a playoff spot or they would have hit me up for the first two games. They still owe me for a game I sold through them last season.

I don't trust them at all.
 

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FB post from a daughter of a friend in MI:

Im sharing this post from my labor and delivery colleague Angela Gogolowski. There was protest of the state at home order extension at our state capitol. Im really sure there was not a single health care worker in attendance.
Angela Gogolowski you put it all so perfectly.

“I am tired, I am scared and I have had enough. If you support those people today you do not support me. Kindly unfriend me and carry on with your lives...
I am saddened by the events today in Lansing. I just do not understand what people do not get. They believe that this virus is not a big deal because of numbers. Numbers they do not understand. They say the flu kills more people every year. Ok well "flu season" runs over several months not one. This country has lost a lot of people in one month's time. That is not the same. I have been a nurse for 15 years, that is 15 flu seasons I have worked through. I have worked through SARS, and MERS. Never have I ever seen anything like this. You sit there and you hear over and over on the PA, "rapid response to xyz room, anesthesia stat to xyz unit, code blue xyz room, over and over again. Sometimes as many as 10 times in a shift. Before this, I have never experienced that.
I am so frustrated. I wish we could film inside the hospitals what it is really like. Remember last week at Sinai Grace Hospital.. emergency room staff were asked to leave because they refused to accept the unsafe staffing ratios and the day shift had to work 24 hours. Most of you couldn't work a twelve hour shift as a nurse let alone 24. Patients are dying in hallways of the ER because the nurses can't tend to them quickly enough and they pass before they can be helped.
Operating rooms, PACU's are being transitioned to makeshift ICU's to care for these patients. Operating room nurse who do not normally perform patient care are being trained to work as ICU nurses.
Patients dying without their loved ones near them due to visitor restrictions in the hospitals but also in the nursing homes. Mothers with COVID being separated from their infants and not being able to hold them skin to skin at birth and not able to breast feed them.. Little infants fighting for their lives in the NICU. A new mother on the vent for four weeks fighting for her life, never once meeting her baby..a beloved grandmother in a nursing home for a month with no contact with family passing away and no funeral to honor her life. Labor and Delivery nurses gowning up head to toe for a simple delivery even if she is not COVID because you never know. The impersonal way we have to participate in labor and delivery of which used to be an intimate experience, is now formal and feels weird.
Fear every time I walk through those hospital doors, fear of my patients, fear of my coworkers, fear of giving this to my family. A constant cloud of anxiety. The feeling of not being properly protected (having to wear and keep the same n-95 mask for who knows how long) knowing full well they are not meant to be used for days on end. Staying away from my husband and kids for two weeks after I was exposed to a patient before we had PPE on our unit... My kids counting down the days until they can "kiss mommy again".
New nurses just out of school in December trying to figure out how to be a nurse while dealing with this pandemic, maybe thinking when this is over I am done. Experienced nurses are saying" this is my last pandemic," contemplating a new career when this is over.
I could go on, but God Forbid people are asked to keep their little happy asses at home and sit the f*** down for two more weeks and they cannot do it. Protesting and blocking the streets of Lansing, blocking ambulances from transporting critical patients to Sparrow Hospital. Are you kidding me? Are we that self-absorbed and wrapped up in ourselves that we can't do what is best for society for a little while longer.
You all stabbed each one of the healthcare workers in the back today with your actions. Don't worry when you get sick we will still take care of you, because this is what we do.”


WOW

Too bad this can't be delivered to the would-be emperor. He welcomed the demonstrations, for him, more more more demonstrations.
 
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Trying to get ticket refunds for concerts, sporting events? You're not alone

Paul Rogers spent $819 to purchase three tickets to take his grandson to the Bruins-Maple Leafs NHL game scheduled back on March 14. But two days before the game, the NHL put the season on pause. The game never happened, but Rogers can't get a refund because the NHL hasn't technically canceled it. Instead, wealthy team owners are holding on to fans' ticket money.

"A situation like this, you can't even get a refund? That's terrible," said Rogers.

Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey says this issue is on her radar and ticket holders who can't get refunds should file a complaint with her office.

"I understand the argument some [teams or concert promoters] are making here, but we've got to face the reality here," said Healey, indicating that it'll likely be a long time before large events resume. "People are hurting right now. They need the money in their pocket, and they don't need to be held hostage."

The NHL did not respond to an email seeking updated guidance for ticket holders.

I'm accepting that this season is over for fans at least, but I'm really starting to freak out about next season.

We were on the fence about renewing anyways, and decided to go for it with the understanding we would need to sell some more games than we did this year (we sell at our price, not looking for profit). The promise of new seats was also a factor (which is going to be tough to pull off with scheduling).

Even if there is hockey in 2020 - 2021 season, and they decide to let fans in at any point, I think people are going to be hesitant to attend. Hell, I'm probably going to be hesitant to attend. I know this is a first world problem and there are much larger issues out there right now, but I can't afford to eat $6k in tickets.
 

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Day 2 of the next 30 days of lockdown in NJ.

Good and Bad news in the USA.

Bad News:

More testing is needed. Much more.
The number of cases is going up.
The number of deaths is going up.
The economy is back to the 2008 level during the financial downturn.
The unemployment numbers have lost all growth.
Wealthy people are getting enormous, huge benefits again from the stimulus bill.
Deaths from Coronavirus aren't being reported.
The number of cases reported from testing is inaccurate.
The methods of test for Coronavirus are different and inconsistent.
It will take years to recover.
Things will never be the same after the recovery from the Coronavirus.
There could be a second wave of the virus worldwide three or four months after the first wave has settled.

Good News: Guess Who?

March favorable rating 49%.
April favorable rating 43%.
That's a massive drop of 6% in a month.

Stay safe out there.

Save a family member, Save my family members, follow the rules, wear a mask when required, why not gloves.

Our country is divided, cruel and nonsupportive of minorities, the elderly, and the homeless. This MUST change.
 

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Day 2 of the next 30 days of lockdown in NJ.

Good and Bad news in the USA.

Bad News:

More testing is needed. Much more.
The number of cases is going up.
The number of deaths is going up.
The economy is back to the 2008 level during the financial downturn.
The unemployment numbers have lost all growth.
Wealthy people are getting enormous, huge benefits again from the stimulus bill.
Deaths from Coronavirus aren't being reported.
The number of cases reported from testing is inaccurate.
The methods of test for Coronavirus are different and inconsistent.
It will take years to recover.
Things will never be the same after the recovery from the Coronavirus.
There could be a second wave of the virus worldwide three or four months after the first wave has settled.

Good News: Guess Who?

March favorable rating 49%.
April favorable rating 43%.
That's a massive drop of 6% in a month.

Stay safe out there.

Save a family member, Save my family members, follow the rules, wear a mask when required, why not gloves.

Our country is divided, cruel and nonsupportive of minorities, the elderly, and the homeless. This MUST change.

I find your decision to classify the president's approval rating going down because of how poorly he is handling a pandemic response where people are sick and dying as "good news" while also stating the country being divided is problematic as....curious at best.

Not a fan of our president at all, or the job he has done...but I would never classify his approval rating taking a nosedive during this as "good news". Good news is sharing the number of people who have recovered, or highlighting the sacrifices of first responders and medical professionals, or sharing progress towards mitigation efforts.
 

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IRS says all checks computerized Trumps signature will take no extra time.

Wont stop business insider running with it still 21 hours ago.

Trump may have delayed stimulus money for several days so that he could put his name on the checks. 6 struggling Americans told us what that extra time could mean for them.

It's OK, we just quote the Post and we're innocent and the narrative continues.

I think you're missing the point by a few miles. It's not that his signature would delay the checks, but that the guy had the compelling need to insist it be put on there to start with. As his signature isn't the official one that makes it a legally binding check, why the need to start with? Isn't there honestly something more dire going on in the world right now that he can focus on rather than him taking time to be petty and insisting his name be on a stimulus check?

I honestly don't get why you can't see this for what it is. Complete and utter bullshit.
 

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I find your decision to classify the president's approval rating going down because of how poorly he is handling a pandemic response where people are sick and dying as "good news" while also stating the country being divided is problematic as....curious at best.

Not a fan of our president at all, or the job he has done...but I would never classify his approval rating taking a nosedive during this as "good news". Good news is sharing the number of people who have recovered, or highlighting the sacrifices of first responders and medical professionals, or sharing progress towards mitigation efforts.

Exactly. Even if you dislike the guy in office, you have to be pulling for them to beat this virus because that means more American lives have been saved. Hardly the time right now to let party affiliations impact your view of what's best for the country.
 

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Exactly. Even if you dislike the guy in office, you have to be pulling for them to beat this virus because that means more American lives have been saved. Hardly the time right now to let party affiliations impact your view of what's best for the country.

sad part is there are so many who care more about seeing Trump fail than seeing us recover because they don't want to see his approval rating go up and its very obvious who those people are. They will say they care about the recovery and everyone's health but all they care about is seeing their party come out of this looking better than the opposing party. It's sickening and people like that should be ashamed and are the ones causing the division in our country. In my entire life I have never seen it to this degree and it makes me fear for what my children have to deal with when people can't even come together in a time like this and put political differences aside and just want what is best for us all as humans.
 
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I think you're missing the point by a few miles. It's not that his signature would delay the checks, but that the guy had the compelling need to insist it be put on there to start with. As his signature isn't the official one that makes it a legally binding check, why the need to start with? Isn't there honestly something more dire going on in the world right now that he can focus on rather than him taking time to be petty and insisting his name be on a stimulus check?

I honestly don't get why you can't see this for what it is. Complete and utter bullshit.

Because that would begin the slow, painful process to admitting one is wrong and in pure denial.
 
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sad part is there are so many who care more about seeing Trump fail than seeing us recover because they don't want to see his approval rating go up and its very obvious who those people are. They will say they care about the recovery and everyone's health but all they care about is seeing their party come out of this looking better than the opposing party. It's sickening and people like that should be ashamed and are the ones causing the division in our country. In my entire life I have never seen it to this degree and it makes me fear for what my children have to deal with when people can't even come together in a time like this and put political differences aside and just want what is best for us all as humans.

as we are now in this semi apacolyptic world where you can't do basic things anymore, scoring political points and talking approval ratings does seem pointless. If we make it to November and can find our way of life sometime again Ill take that as good news
 
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