Prospect Info: All-Purpose Prospect Thread v17.0

Hattrick Kane

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Oliver Moore with 5 points in 9 games so far, that is ugly. If I’m Kyle Davidson, I’m admitting my mistake and trading him for a top 6 forward if you can even find one available.
 

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Honestly for the amount of picks we’ve had I’ve expected to see a bit more development. We haven’t had a prospect really take off. Some good ones in there, I’m super high on Rinzel, Nazar.. but man. You’d hope to hit on one or two picks that immediately look like home runs and continue to be.
 
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Honestly for the amount of picks we’ve had I’ve expected to see a bit more development. We haven’t had a prospect really take off. Some good ones in there, I’m super high on Rinzel, Nazar.. but man. You’d hope to hit on one or two picks that immediately look like home runs and continue to be.
I am high on Lardis. Kid just scores.
 
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Honestly for the amount of picks we’ve had I’ve expected to see a bit more development. We haven’t had a prospect really take off. Some good ones in there, I’m super high on Rinzel, Nazar.. but man. You’d hope to hit on one or two picks that immediately look like home runs and continue to be.

I don't follow prospects as closely as a lot of you guys... But Nazar and Rinzel are thriving. Aside from them who is doing well?

Dach maybe? Levshunov is obviously way early in his development, so he gets a pass for now.

Super nervous about Korchinski right now because if the offense doesn't come around then he doesn't have the skillset or mindset to stick in the NHL in any role, IMO.
 
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"Besides a top pair D emerging, our answer at 2C being ppg+ in the AHL, the NCHC Freshmen of the week, a Goal per game CHLer, a 19 year old #2OA at .5ppg in the AHL with no training camp, a 2024 3rd rounder damn near making it out of camp, a PPG AHL power forward, 3 PPG+ old college centers.... no one is really popping."

.... but the goalies do suck.
 

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I don't follow prospects as closely as a lot of you guys... But Nazar and Rinzel are thriving. Aside from them who is doing well?

Dach maybe? Levshunov is obviously way early in his development, so he gets a pass for now.

Super nervous about Korchinski right now because if the offense doesn't come around then he doesn't have the skillset or mindset to stick in the NHL in any role, IMO.
Dach is playing well, 8 points in 9 games so far. But more importantly, he goes to the net and isn’t afraid to shoot.

Aidan Thompson is going nuts in college. 17 points in 10 games, though he is 22 now.

Sam Savoie despite not having the points looks good and a bottom 6 forward in the NHL soon.

Ryan Greene off to a good start as well in college.

EDM won’t put up points this year since he won’t be getting powerplay time. But he’s easily the best defensively down in Rockford and should be up with the Hawks once the garbage is cleared out.
 
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Said at time that Hawks were passing on alot of talent at #35 and that "This is a pick that will either turn out to be a genius move in hindsight or a missed opportunity."

As of now concerned we threw away 35th overall (And frankly #55 as well with selection of Misiak)
 
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I'm starting to get really concerned about the rebuild. I don't see where Bedard's help is coming from with the current prospects.

Said at time that Hawks were passing on alot of talent at #35 and that "This is a pick that will either turn out to be a genius move in hindsight or a missed opportunity."

As of now concerned we threw away 35th overall (And frankly #55 as well with selection of Misiak)
I liked Gajan but I wouldn't have taken him at 35.
 

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I'm starting to get really concerned about the rebuild. I don't see where Bedard's help is coming from with the current prospects.


I liked Gajan but I wouldn't have taken him at 35.
Bedard isn't the rebuild. A team, especially defenders growing who take longer, is the key to actually succeeding.

I was fine drafting a goalie but never believed in Gajan. Said in his draft thread. Too many 1st round 2nd round goalies of the past are busts who were drafted because of amazing WJCs. 5 great games even with "best of best" topic is a much worse evaluation than 40 or so games multi years.
 
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Bedard isn't the rebuild. A team, especially defenders growing who take longer, is the key to actually succeeding.

I was fine drafting a goalie but never believed in Gajan. Said in his draft thread. Too many 1st round 2nd round goalies of the past are busts who were drafted because of amazing WJCs. 5 great games even with "best of best" topic is a much worse evaluation than 40 or so games multi years.
I'm well aware, but it seems like a lot of the forwards drafted are stagnating.
 
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Eh Trey Augustine is 0-6 with a 1.67 and 0.935%

Still early for sure but at some point a high end prospect is going to make a difference at lower levels even without much help
I believe you reversed the win/loss. After the weekend Augustine is 6-1.
 

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Yea goalies that high rarely ever make sense unless they’re truly a can’t miss prospect, which is very rare. Too many of the top goalies in the NHL are late round picks or free agents

I believe you reversed the win/loss. After the weekend Augustine is 6-1.
I did, I swear hockeydb had it reversed. Makes a lot more sense lol thanks
 

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KD so fixated by skating that he ignored offensive hockey sense and finishing ability...

They were so giddy about Oliver Moore falling to them...in retrospect it is NYR thatvis laughing about how goid Gabe Oerrault has been developing into a go to force in college..

Moore has been a disappointment for not loling like a topic forward prospect ...Whefe's theboffense? 1g 4a in19HP this season and -1..Soph .season off to regressive start..nothing special to indicate any driver of offense A JaG ...Just Anotger Guy to compeye or a 4th liner role..."but hev s a beautiful skater"..
 

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KD so fixated by skating that he ignored offensive hockey sense and finishing ability...

They were so giddy about Oliver Moore falling to them...in retrospect it is NYR thatvis laughing about how goid Gabe Oerrault has been developing into a go to force in college..

Moore has been a disappointment for not loling like a topic forward prospect ...Whefe's theboffense? 1g 4a in19HP this season and -1..Soph .season off to regressive start..nothing special to indicate any driver of offense A JaG ...Just Anotger Guy to compeye or a 4th liner role..."but hev s a beautiful skater"..
Well that fat lady hasn't sung quite yet. McGroarty outperformed and outproduced Nazar last year in college and look how they're both doing now in the pros. Both have played 9 games in the AHL and Nazar has 11 points and McGroarty has 2. Let's see how the next couple years play out before making any proclamations
 

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Hawks have an 01, 02 and 03 born Defensemen that are on the NHL roster right now. Another 03 is thriving in the AHL right now. An 04 Defenseman is crushing it at a premiere college program.

Haven't even mentioned the 04 and 05 born Top-7 picks. Hawks future looks good on Defense. I know it doesn't always turn out that way, but they have good odds right now.

And for Forwards, remember that Bedard is only 19 even if not technically "prospect". He has almost double the points of Adam Fantilli and Leo Carlsson right now, the 2nd and 3rd overall picks. Most of the other guys his age are still playing Juniors.

Perspective.
 

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And for Forwards, remember that Bedard is only 19 even if not technically "prospect". He has almost double the points of Adam Fantilli and Leo Carlsson right now, the 2nd and 3rd overall picks. Most of the other guys his age are still playing Juniors.

Perspective.
Right. It took MacKinnon a few years to start putting up legit 1st overall numbers
 
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Hawks have an 01, 02 and 03 born Defensemen that are on the NHL roster right now. Another 03 is thriving in the AHL right now. An 04 Defenseman is crushing it at a premiere college program.

Haven't even mentioned the 04 and 05 born Top-7 picks. Hawks future looks good on Defense. I know it doesn't always turn out that way, but they have good odds right now.

And for Forwards, remember that Bedard is only 19 even if not technically "prospect". He has almost double the points of Adam Fantilli and Leo Carlsson right now, the 2nd and 3rd overall picks. Most of the other guys his age are still playing Juniors.

Perspective.
who is the 04 D that is doing well in college?
 

Hattrick Kane

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Hawks have an 01, 02 and 03 born Defensemen that are on the NHL roster right now. Another 03 is thriving in the AHL right now. An 04 Defenseman is crushing it at a premiere college program.

Haven't even mentioned the 04 and 05 born Top-7 picks. Hawks future looks good on Defense. I know it doesn't always turn out that way, but they have good odds right now.

And for Forwards, remember that Bedard is only 19 even if not technically "prospect". He has almost double the points of Adam Fantilli and Leo Carlsson right now, the 2nd and 3rd overall picks. Most of the other guys his age are still playing Juniors.

Perspective.
I like the plan on defense right now. If Murphy and Martinez are traded at the deadline, you can bring up EDM for the last 20 games and try to get him established as well.

If all goes well, you could have 4 defenders under the age of 25 on the roster next year getting more experience. So when the hawks are ready to push for the playoffs, the defense will be ready for it.
 

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I like the plan on defense right now. If Murphy and Martinez are traded at the deadline, you can bring up EDM for the last 20 games and try to get him established as well.

If all goes well, you could have 4 defenders under the age of 25 on the roster next year getting more experience. So when the hawks are ready to push for the playoffs, the defense will be ready for it.
Yeah it's hard to imagine the Hawks Defense not being really good in say 2030, unless they horribly botch it from an asset management standpoint (hello Rob Blake)
 

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