All-Purpose News Thread Part II

BostonBob · Oct 25, 2023

CM Punk has found work:

OgeeOgelthorpe · Oct 25, 2023

GKJ said:
I disagree that Ospreay would not be a needle mover, they have been wanting and are short on British stars

Ospreay brings revpro and NJPW fans direct to whoever he signs with. The guy is huge overseas. I really hope it’s AEW, and we see United Empire become a dominant stable.

FriendlyGhost92 · Oct 25, 2023

Ospreay would essentially get treated like Ricochet. Hell of a talent, but probably not a star in WWE's system.

GKJ · Oct 25, 2023

OgeeOgelthorpe said:
Ospreay brings revpro and NJPW fans direct to whoever he signs with. The guy is huge overseas. I really hope it’s AEW, and we see United Empire become a dominant stable.

I don’t think he brings NJPW fans who don’t already watch WWE with him to WWE. Don’t know why he wouldn’t be presented similarly to how AJ was

OgeeOgelthorpe · Oct 25, 2023

FriendlyGhost92 said:
Ospreay would essentially get treated like Ricochet. Hell of a talent, but probably not a star in WWE's system.

That’s kind of how I feel about Ospreay to WWE. Probably nothing more than midcard for a few years before wwe decides to give him a real push.

In AEW he could be straight to the top of the card and is not asked to job to the Bloodline or Gunther.

Jussi · Oct 25, 2023

BostonBob said:
CM Punk has found work:

That's a pretty good intro.

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Berlin to host Germany's first major WWE Premium Live Event Bash in Berlin in August 2024

Mercedes-Benz Arena in Berlin, Germany, will host the Premium Live Event on Saturday, August 31, 2024!

www.wwe.com

GKJ · Oct 25, 2023

I guess Summerslam will be early again next year

Scandale du Jour · Oct 25, 2023

GKJ said:
I don’t think he brings NJPW fans who don’t already watch WWE with him to WWE. Don’t know why he wouldn’t be presented similarly to how AJ was

Because AJ Style was on national TV in the US for years before joining WWE.

Ospreay has had like, what, 4 matches in AEW?

GKJ · Oct 25, 2023

Scandale du Jour said:
Because AJ Style was on national TV in the US for years before joining WWE.

Ospreay has had like, what, 4 matches in AEW?

And he was off it for 2 years before signing

Unholy Diver · Oct 25, 2023

OgeeOgelthorpe said:
That’s kind of how I feel about Ospreay to WWE. Probably nothing more than midcard for a few years before wwe decides to give him a real push.

In AEW he could be straight to the top of the card and is not asked to job to the Bloodline or Gunther.

No, in AEW he will be asked to job to Orange Cassidy

TD Charlie · Oct 25, 2023

Unholy Diver said:
No, in AEW he will be asked to job to Orange Cassidy

Doubtful. There's a ton of audience cross over between AEW and NJPW. When guys make the trip across the pond and wrestle for the other company it's almost always received very positively by the crowd. Jay White has been in a program with MJF for a while now, and they've positioned him as the top guy in a faction that suddenly feels important. They've been able to get the Gunns over via Jay White somehow.

I don't think Ospreay would be given as much freedom to have his full arrogance on display in the E. Not to mention, the wrestling with WWE is...safer? He would do fine wherever, cuz he's just that good, but for my entertainment dollar I'd much rather see him with AEW.

And honestly, with how hot Orange Cassidy is with live audiences, and his athleticism, is a program with OC really even that much of an insult at this point? They've done a great job of separating him from the novelty act he always was, while still mostly keeping him in character.

TheBeastCoast · Oct 25, 2023

Unholy Diver said:
No, in AEW he will be asked to job to Orange Cassidy

I mean he isn’t even in AEW and he has gone over Jericho and Omega this year lol you are wrong.

Unholy Diver · Oct 25, 2023

TheBeastCoast said:
I mean he isn’t even in AEW and he has gone over Jericho and Omega this year lol you are wrong.

Jericho is 5-4 and Omega is 4-3 in singles this year, Orange is 25-1

TheBeastCoast · Oct 25, 2023

Unholy Diver said:
Jericho is 5-4 and Omega is 4-3 in singles this year, Orange is 25-1

Orange spent most of the year as a champion and he is also a legit main event talent and one of the bigger draws in the entire company. Regardless you and I both know Ospreay isn’t going to be “jobbing” to anyone in AEW.

Scandale du Jour · Oct 25, 2023

TheBeastCoast said:
Orange spent most of the year as a champion and he is also a legit main event talent and one of the bigger draws in the entire company. Regardless you and I both know Ospreay isn’t going to be “jobbing” to anyone in AEW.

He sure is a merch mover, but I do not think he is a legit main event player. He is a solid hand who did an outstanding job at being more than the silly gimmick, but I would not be calling him a huge draw. His segments often lose viewers (well, everybody's but MJF tend to do, though).

TheBeastCoast · Oct 25, 2023

Scandale du Jour said:
He sure is a merch mover, but I do not think he is a legit main event player. He is a solid hand who did an outstanding job at being more than the silly gimmick, but I would not be calling him a huge draw. His segments often lose viewers (well, everybody's but MJF tend to do, though).

His segments regularly did very well. They didn’t have him open that many Dynamites just to be nice to him.

BostonBob · Oct 25, 2023

from f4wonline.com:

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WWE has announced a premium live event will take place in Germany next year.

The company revealed today that Bash in Berlin will be held on Saturday, August 31, 2024, from Mercedes-Benz Arena. It will be the first time Germany has hosted a WWE PLE.

Scandale du Jour · Oct 25, 2023

TheBeastCoast said:
His segments regularly did very well. They didn’t have him open that many Dynamites just to be nice to him.

The audience generally crashed after his matches. That is not a good sign.

I mean, I personally enjoy the guy and I believe he has a strong following, but I do not think he is a main event player nor a guy that draws in the traditional way.

Unholy Diver · Oct 25, 2023

Scandale du Jour said:
The audience generally crashed after his matches. That is not a good sign.

I mean, I personally enjoy the guy and I believe he has a strong following, but I do not think he is a main event player nor a guy that draws in the traditional way.

And a big part of the reason he had high numbers is that he had a good lead in when starting the show, just because you are on 3rd base, it doesn't mean you hit a triple

TheBeastCoast · Oct 25, 2023

Scandale du Jour said:
The audience generally crashed after his matches. That is not a good sign.

I mean, I personally enjoy the guy and I believe he has a strong following, but I do not think he is a main event player nor a guy that draws in the traditional way.

If MJF starts the show and the numbers crash after he is done is he not a draw as well? I don't really get that logic to be completely honest. If he wasn't doing well....they wouldn't have continually put him in that spot. That said he is probably just slightly below the true main eventers in the company. His matches can carry an episode of Dynamite but not a PPV essentially.

Jussi · Oct 25, 2023

BostonBob said:
from f4wonline.com:

WWE has announced a premium live event will take place in Germany next year.

The company revealed today that Bash in Berlin will be held on Saturday, August 31, 2024, from Mercedes-Benz Arena. It will be the first time Germany has hosted a WWE PLE.

You're about 11 hours late with that one.