All Purpose Morgan Rielly Discussion

[zeke]

What a drastic reversal.

Him and Brodie took a bit to get up to speed but they're dynamite at the moment.

 

[Stephen]

Thought he played a very tidy game vs Edmonton. Wasn’t too noticeable like he was trying to force things to happen which is usually where things get a little crazy for him.

 

[zeke]

Rielly now leads the leafs' D in xgf%, while still facing the toughest qoc (though for the first time in forever he finally has a second pairing that's sharing much of the top qoc matchups with him).

So go figure - the first time Rielly gets a real D partner, his fancy stats look great.

 

[LeafGrief]

Rielly has been great the past few weeks. He's been really effective with the active stick and has taken some notes from Holl on separating opposition from the puck by stapling them to the boards. He had that godawful game against Ottawa when they came back, but otherwise he's been really good. The season got off to an ugly start, but he's been playing very nice hockey for a while now.

From January 28th to February 28th Rielly was on the ice for 14 goals for at ES, 8 against. He's been great.

 

[notbias]

Haven't checked the thread since game 5, are we still trading him for a bag of pucks or are we giving him time to adjust to the new partner?

 

[Notsince67]

Haven't checked the thread since game 5, are we still trading him for a bag of pucks or are we giving him time to adjust to the new partner?

Apparently he isnt a number #1 but bags of pucks have become too valuable so that proposal over valued Rielly.
Hard to believe anyone of these hockey experts could possibly change their minds in a couple of weeks.

 

[ICBM]

Rielly now leads the leafs' D in xgf%, while still facing the toughest qoc (though for the first time in forever he finally has a second pairing that's sharing much of the top qoc matchups with him).

So go figure - the first time Rielly gets a real D partner, his fancy stats look great.

Who is going to stop Pastrnak and Marchand when they storm the crease in the playoffs? Rielly's stats? Because we know he can't do it. Who is going to shoot pucks through the screens? He won't.

All these regular season points are worthless in the playoffs.

 

[zeke]

Who is going to stop Pastrnak and Marchand when they storm the crease in the playoffs? Rielly's stats? Because we know he can't do it. Who is going to shoot pucks through the screens? He won't.

All these regular season points are worthless in the playoffs.

It ain't gonna be zaitsev hainsey Gardiner and polak anymore, thank Jesus.

 

[Petrus]

Who is going to stop Pastrnak and Marchand when they storm the crease in the playoffs? Rielly's stats? Because we know he can't do it. Who is going to shoot pucks through the screens? He won't.

All these regular season points are worthless in the playoffs.

I think you want balance in the dcorps.

You cannot have all Morgs type players or all Webers on the team.

Teams need both. So long as he is adequate defensively and has good partner to compliment his strengths, he a unique element to his game that this team needs to compete.

 

[Notsince67]

Who is going to stop Pastrnak and Marchand when they storm the crease in the playoffs? Rielly's stats? Because we know he can't do it. Who is going to shoot pucks through the screens? He won't.

All these regular season points are worthless in the playoffs.

Boston will be overwhelmed if they get far enough to meet the leafs. Book it.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Boston will be overwhelmed if they get far enough to meet the leafs. Book it.

That's overstating is but at this point in time, I think it's fair to say that we'd be favourites if we were to start a series against them today.

Looking at the standings as they are, I see 3 teams in the top tier, TB, Vegas and Toronto.

The things I'm looking at at a glance are PTS%, goal differential and how hard the schedule is.

By PTS% alone it's TB and us but Vegas seems to have the toughest division so not sure how much that should be compensated for but it might be enough to put them up in our tier.

One more thing is injuries. I don't follow the other teams closely enough but I do know that Kucherov is out so give TB credit for that. If he's back for the playoffs I think it's fair to say that they're the cup favourites. Again I don't follow this stuff closely so there might ba other factors I'm not aware of.

I should note that I always pay attentinon to what the bookies say, they know more than people think so I should note that they have COL right in the mix as well and Boston right behind them and those odds back me up - we'd be favourites against Boston but to say they'd be overwhelmed just isn't realistic.

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[ICBM]

It ain't gonna be zaitsev hainsey Gardiner and polak anymore, thank Jesus.

What's your point? Hainsey was a great stay-at-home by the way. If he was paired with somebody useful, Leafs D could have stoped Boston's leaders.

 

[Notsince67]

That's overstating is but at this point in time, I think it's fair to say that we'd be favourites if we were to start a series against them today.

Looking at the standings as they are, I see 3 teams in the top tier, TB, Vegas and Toronto.

The things I'm looking at at a glance are PTS%, goal differential and how hard the schedule is.

By PTS% alone it's TB and us but Vegas seems to have the toughest division so not sure how much that should be compensated for but it might be enough to put them up in our tier.

One more thing is injuries. I don't follow the other teams closely enough but I do know that Kucherov is out so give TB credit for that. If he's back for the playoffs I think it's fair to say that they're the cup favourites. Again I don't follow this stuff closely so there might ba other factors I'm not aware of.

I should note that I always pay attentinon to what the bookies say, they know more than people think so I should note that they have COL right in the mix as well and Boston right behind them and those odds back me up - we'd be favourites against Boston but to say they'd be overwhelmed just isn't realistic.

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I go with what I see and I have seen a lot if hockey in my life. What I see with the leafs is a team winning despite running on a flat tire. With a healthy lineup and every lagging talent re-awakening, this team will draw together as a force. We have yet to see the best and I believe that is around the corner.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I go with what I see and I have seen a lot if hockey in my life. What I see with the leafs is a team winning despite running on a flat tire. With a healthy lineup and every lagging talent re-awakening, this team will draw together as a force. We have yet to see the best and I believe that is around the corner.

I'm every bit as high on them as you are and I've been watching the NHL for over 50 years. I'm just saying that Boston is a very good team so saying we'd overwhelm them is a bit too cocky (for me anyway).

 

[zeke]

That's overstating is but at this point in time, I think it's fair to say that we'd be favourites if we were to start a series against them today.

Looking at the standings as they are, I see 3 teams in the top tier, TB, Vegas and Toronto.

The things I'm looking at at a glance are PTS%, goal differential and how hard the schedule is.

By PTS% alone it's TB and us but Vegas seems to have the toughest division so not sure how much that should be compensated for but it might be enough to put them up in our tier.

One more thing is injuries. I don't follow the other teams closely enough but I do know that Kucherov is out so give TB credit for that. If he's back for the playoffs I think it's fair to say that they're the cup favourites. Again I don't follow this stuff closely so there might ba other factors I'm not aware of.

I should note that I always pay attentinon to what the bookies say, they know more than people think so I should note that they have COL right in the mix as well and Boston right behind them and those odds back me up - we'd be favourites against Boston but to say they'd be overwhelmed just isn't realistic.

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TB looks like the favorites still.

One thing they have that we don't is a proven elite goalie.

 

[ICBM]

Boston will be overwhelmed if they get far enough to meet the leafs. Book it.

This team lost to Columbus half a year ago. Boston would not be a sure bet. Leafs patched the lineup with grandpas, but we've seen it before. I still remember the pre-2004 teams.

 

[zeke]

What's your point? Hainsey was a great stay-at-home by the way. If he was paired with somebody useful, Leafs D could have stoped Boston's leaders.

Ah yes rielly was the weak link on that defense, not hainsey and zaitsev and polak. We should trade rielly for one of those guys.

 

[Gary Nylund]

What's your point? Hainsey was a great stay-at-home by the way. If he was paired with somebody useful, Leafs D could have stoped Boston's leaders.

 

[Gary Nylund]

TB looks like the favorites still.

One thing they have that we don't is a proven elite goalie.

True enough. We also don't have a Hedman but that's much less important. And of course they don't have a Matthews.

Whatever, we probably don't have to worry about them until the finals and getting there is a ton of work so ... let's see if we can do that first and we'll worry about TB when the times comes. And if that were to happen, man oh man what an exciting final that would be!!

 

[zeke]

I'm every bit as high on them as you are and I've been watching the NHL for over 50 years. I'm just saying that Boston is a very good team so saying we'd overwhelm them is a bit too cocky (for me anyway).

Yeah I'll never underestimate the Bruins.

But that roster does seem to be a clear step down from what it was. Both on paper and looking at all the stats.

Though of course they're still managing to win at a very good clip.

 

[Notsince67]

I'm every bit as high on them as you are and I've been watching the NHL for over 50 years. I'm just saying that Boston is a very good team so saying we'd overwhelm them is a bit too cocky (for me anyway).

Ah...but they have been losing.

 

[Notsince67]

This team lost to Columbus half a year ago. Boston would not be a sure bet. Leafs patched the lineup with grandpas, but we've seen it before. I still remember the pre-2004 teams.

I have watched most of the games for years. I see the development and to characterize this team as being propped up by grandpa's, I can only say that you should watch more games and pay attention instead of spouting off against players who are shoring up the depth and providing valuable insight and leadership. Even better...go watch a team you actually like.

 

[ICBM]

Ah yes rielly was the weak link on that defense, not hainsey and zaitsev and polak. We should trade rielly for one of those guys.

I'd trade him for a young Hainsey. In a heartbeat. Look at Boston's defense: nobody is even close to Rielly's "70 points" people like to brag about. But they are men. Not a little mama's boy. In the playoffs you need men, not point hunters and cheaters.
And it's not like he is Paul Coffee. Smallish speedy waterbug. Without shot. You never won a round with.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Ah...but they have been losing.

If 11-5-2 is "losing"then sure.

I'd trade him for a young Hainsey. In a heartbeat. Look at Boston's defense: nobody is even close to Rielly's "70 points" people like to brag about. But they are men. Not a little mama's boy. In the playoffs you need men, not point hunters and cheaters.
And it's not like he is Paul Coffee. Smallish speedy waterbug. Without shot. You never won a round with.

 

[zeke]

I'd trade him for a young Hainsey. In a heartbeat. Look at Boston's defense: nobody is even close to Rielly's "70 points" people like to brag about. But they are men. Not a little mama's boy. In the playoffs you need men, not point hunters and cheaters.
And it's not like he is Paul Coffee. Smallish speedy waterbug. Without shot. You never won a round with.

He's 220lbs