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Viqsi said:
Because he's an honest to G-d superstar/franchise-level player, and you make exceptions when someone of that incredible level of talent is available and interested in your team. Same reason the Rangers grabbed Panarin "early".
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Hmm I guess Miller would fit that description too then? They’re the same age and Miller has actually been a slightly better offensive producer than Gaudreau over the last 3 seasons while playing a more important position and having a much better all around game. Miller would also be cheaper than JG.

Again you know your team more than I do. Not trying to be pushy, but the logic of being all in on Gaudreau but not interested in Miller is confusing to me.
 
I consider Miller to be more or less the same quality of center as Zibanejad. Miller puts up more points, but isn't as complete of a player.

Regardless of whether that's around 10th, 15th or 20th best center, that's a great addition to any team.

If the team can sign Miller to a decent deal, i hope they move Horvat. Unlike Miller, whose perceived as a worse player than he is, Horvat is perceived as a better player than he is (he's obviously a very good player).
 
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MarkusNaslund19 said:
Oh, I get that many fans on these boards know precious little about the situation of other teams.

I agree, Columbus makes no sense unless for romantic reasons ('hometown' boy, etc. Or if the ownership got a specific bee in its bonnet). Mostly that's laziness by people who don't research before they post.

But I'm seeing fans making global statements about how he's not that good, and if he was then obviously we would keep him, which is even more intellectually lazy than the aforementioned group.
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Amusingly, the romantic reasons don't apply either. East Palestine is on the border with Pennsylvania; Miller grew up in Pittsburgh. Cole Sillinger has more claim to be a "hometown boy" than Miller, and he plays for Team Canada.
 
Viqsi said:
Amusingly, the romantic reasons don't apply either. East Palestine is on the border with Pennsylvania; Miller grew up in Pittsburgh. Cole Sillinger has more claim to be a "hometown boy" than Miller, and he plays for Team Canada.
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I know it doesn't really apply, that's why I used quotation marks around the 'romantic' part of my sentence.

I don't mean this snottily, but yes I did happen to know that.

And Columbus are one of the few teams in the league that probably has worse (current) RD depth than we do. I mean Boqvist might be on your top pair with Werenski which seems like a bad stylistic fit and my understanding is that Boqvist got ventilated defensively anyway.
 
deckercky said:
I consider Miller to be more or less the same quality of center as Zibanejad. Miller puts up more points, but isn't as complete of a player.

Regardless of whether that's around 10th, 15th or 20th best center, that's a great addition to any team.

If the team can sign Miller to a decent deal, i hope they move Horvat. Unlike Miller, whose perceived as a worse player than he is, Horvat is perceived as a better player than he is (he's obviously a very good player).
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This is so true
 
deckercky said:
If the team can sign Miller to a decent deal, i hope they move Horvat. Unlike Miller, whose perceived as a worse player than he is, Horvat is perceived as a better player than he is (he's obviously a very good player).
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100%. If Miller was willing to sign for 5 or 6 years at $8M or less, I'd be all over that. But unfortunately I think Miller has his eyes set on the Hertl and Zibanajed deals and I can't say I blame him. I also feel management is loathe to deal Horvat as a large section of the fanbase views him as more than he is solely because he's the captain and a "good Canadian boy". The 7 or 8 year extension they inevitably sign him to is likely going to be ugly.
 
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IslandersFan17 said:
Yeah, no he def only played center you are 100% right never lined up at wing and had his best success there it’s okay
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I never said he never played wing. YOU however said he never played center, which is unequivocally incorrect. He also played over 80% at center last season, which just so happened to be his most productive. Try to keep up.
 
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Peter Griffin said:
leftwinglock.com

J.T. Miller Player Profile Page | leftwinglock.com

Left Wing Lock is a fantasy hockey resource that provides NHL player profiles, time on ice charts, and stats for fantasy hockey managers.
leftwinglock.com leftwinglock.com

Go troll elsewhere.
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Oh cool you found something that listed him as a center, this lists him as a LW. You really made your case.

thecanuckway.com

Canucks: J.T. Miller snubbed from NHL’s “Super 16” left wing rankings

Vancouver Canucks forward J.T. Miller was snubbed from NHL.com's "Super 16" rankings of the top left wingers in the Stanley Cup qualifiers.
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Weird that the Canucks bloggers feel a center should have been in the running for LW rankings
 

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IslandersFan17 said:
Oh cool you found something that listed him as a center, this lists him as a LW. You really made your case.

thecanuckway.com

Canucks: J.T. Miller snubbed from NHL’s “Super 16” left wing rankings

Vancouver Canucks forward J.T. Miller was snubbed from NHL.com's "Super 16" rankings of the top left wingers in the Stanley Cup qualifiers.
thecanuckway.com thecanuckway.com

Weird that the Canucks bloggers feel a center should have been in the running for LW rankings
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You’ve done a fine job proving my point with your ignorance. Please, continue, this is entertaining for all of us here I’m sure.

BTW, nice of you to post an article from 107 weeks ago when discussing a players’ role from last season. Great job!
 
IslandersFan17 said:
Oh cool you found something that listed him as a center, this lists him as a LW. You really made your case.

thecanuckway.com

Canucks: J.T. Miller snubbed from NHL’s “Super 16” left wing rankings

Vancouver Canucks forward J.T. Miller was snubbed from NHL.com's "Super 16" rankings of the top left wingers in the Stanley Cup qualifiers.
thecanuckway.com thecanuckway.com

Weird that the Canucks bloggers feel a center should have been in the running for LW rankings
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Guess you can’t read or maybe just trolling? Left wing lock shows what lines a player played on btw.

So if Miller isn’t a centre, is it Tanner Pearson, Conor Garland, or Brock Boeser who is now a centre? Curious to know which of those three made the switch since they were Millers most common linemates!
 
IslandersFan17 said:
Oh cool you found something that listed him as a center, this lists him as a LW. You really made your case.

thecanuckway.com

Canucks: J.T. Miller snubbed from NHL’s “Super 16” left wing rankings

Vancouver Canucks forward J.T. Miller was snubbed from NHL.com's "Super 16" rankings of the top left wingers in the Stanley Cup qualifiers.
thecanuckway.com thecanuckway.com

Weird that the Canucks bloggers feel a center should have been in the running for LW rankings
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That article is almost 2 years old. Miller *did* play a lot of LW then, he did not this past season (and spent a lot of time at C when Pettersson went down the year before)

Online resources can be pretty unreliable reporting positions (ie listing a guy at C who hasn't played it since junior)

You do you, however.
 
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Peter Griffin said:
You’ve done a fine job proving my point with your ignorance. Please, continue, this is entertaining for all of us here I’m sure.
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Ignorance, is you making a comment and showing nothing other than an off website showing him as a center, yet multiple outlets have him listed at winger, where he played mostly unless he was filling in for EP, but he was mostly on Horvats wing.

It’s okay, I’d ignore all the things I’m showing you if I found entertainment from strangers on a message board in 2022

Mal Reynolds said:
That article is almost 2 years old. Miller *did* play a lot of LW then, he did not this past season (and spent a lot of time at C when Pettersson went down the year before)

Online resources can be pretty unreliable reporting positions (ie listing a guy at C who hasn't played it since junior)

You do you, however.
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“You do you” thanks for the permission, yikes.

Weird so we admit he played LW and really only filled in at center on a needed basis. Gotcha
 
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IslandersFan17 said:
Ignorance, is you making a comment and showing nothing other than an off website showing him as a center, yet multiple outlets have him listed at winger, where he played mostly unless he was filling in for EP, but he was mostly on Horvats wing.
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No. Ignorance is not listening to the fans that watch him play every game and instead picking and choosing sites that are also ignorant to the fact that he played the vast majority of his season at center last year. Here's a breakdown of his ES ice-time from last season:

frozenpool.dobbersports.com

Line Combinations - Frozen Tools

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So, was it Tanner Pearson, Brock Boeser, Conor Garland, Nils Hoglander, Alex Chiasson or Vasily Podkolzin that was centering the line, the 60%+ of the time that Miller didn't play with Pettersson or Horvat last season? Oh, and BTW, there were many times that Miller played center and Pettersson played on the wing.
 
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IslandersFan17 said:
Ignorance, is you making a comment and showing nothing other than an off website showing him as a center, yet multiple outlets have him listed at winger, where he played mostly unless he was filling in for EP, but he was mostly on Horvats wing.

It’s okay, I’d ignore all the things I’m showing you if I found entertainment from strangers on a message board in 2022


“You do you” thanks for the permission, yikes.

Weird so we admit he played LW and really only filled in at center on a needed basis. Gotcha
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Errr quick question..........how many actual Canuck games did you watch last year? Lol............I put the over under at +-2
 
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IslandersFan17 said:
“You do you” thanks for the permission, yikes.

Weird so we admit he played LW and really only filled in at center on a needed basis. Gotcha
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I mean, you're obnoxiously ignoring people who watched the player play night in, night out. Yikes indeed.

Is it so hard to understand that he's a forward who can play multiple positions, that he played LW his first year in Vancouver and lots of C the past 2 years...?

Is it also hard to understand that said player with multiple position capability could cause some confusion online? That jfresh poll you posted has Stutzle and RNH as wings when they also have spent time at C. Many Senators fans see Stutzle as a C moving forward. But I think I'll go argue with them about it :help:
 
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